Post-Game Talk: Kings 4 - Jets 1

[surixon]

Interesting take. However id say our main problem right now is the PP has stopped moving their feet and line 1 is not backchecking... fix those and it trickles doemqn thru the team

The pp is definitely the biggest issue. That top unit needs to start moving its feet and moving the puck quickly again.

 

[10Ducky10]

The last 2 times they lost to LA they had Pionk and Villardi.
My comment is not about the loss it is about consistently losing to certain teams that play a certain style but gloss over that to call me out.
I cannot help it if my analysis is next level and only a select few on here are able to match my knowledge and analyze this exactly as you said ' as not being a fan aka a fanatic. I am a realist. I want them to win the cup as much as anyone but their are serious flaws in their game that Vegas and the Kings expose.

Get off of your high horse. You've been wrong a lot more than you've been right.
The team that you are really pulling for is going to have a hard time getting out of the Atlantic.

 

[Jet]

Totally agree, Coghlan's game may suffer the more he played but we now know what Stanley brings and i wouldn't mind Coghlan getting a game or 2 and parking Stanley for a game or 2. If Schenn is playing we don't need both Schenn and Stanley in the lineup at the same time that's for sure.

I'm all for it - sign me up Especially considering they're thin at RD - I just really don't want to see Stan on that side.

 

[Jet]

These guys are going to choke away first in the Central aren't they? The time to start playing playoff hockey was a week ago and not try to start the 1st game of the playoffs.

Choke?

Who are you btw? Just here to be negative?

The Jets played a fine game last night - it just didn't work out (as in, that's hockey). Look around the league and you see tons of teams with way more at stake 'choking'

Dallas has been red hot - full marks to them for putting pressure on the Jets. Nothing about the Jets game recently, especially considering we're missing 2 everyday defensemen and a top line winger says choke to me.

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[ps241]

Meanwhile Dallas somehow is only 4 points back with a game in hand. How did that happen?

They are one of the top 3 teams in the NHL that happen to be in our division.

 

[Jet]

I was just going to say something like this. I wonder if age might be catching up to both Nino and Lowry. This is the second year in a row where their play and the lines play have fallen way off the back half of the year.

Wonder if they are able to impose their will on teams early in the year while other teams are still getting up to speed but then have a harder time as they wear out later and other teams ramp up and get more organized.

Yeah it could definitely be that, I just think that style of play is incredibly hard to keep up over 82 games.

Might be wild but maybe we shut them down until the last couple games of the year, standings be damned? Sure, we'd have to play the Avs if we lose first but if our third line isn't playing their game effectively we're in big trouble.

 

[surixon]

Yeah it could definitely be that, I just think that style of play is incredibly hard to keep up over 82 games.

Might be wild but maybe we shut them down until the last couple games of the year, standings be damned? Sure, we'd have to play the Avs if we lose first but if our third line isn't playing their game effectively we're in big trouble.

Agreed. Also Colorado doesn't scare me as much this year. I think we'd be much better prepared if we had to face them.

 

[10Ducky10]

81 55 27
91 7 62
9 17 36
73 19 22

44 2
54 5
24 6

Barron should move up the lineup.
Ehlers should play on 1st line.
Stanley should eat popcorn.

 

[10Ducky10]

Choke?

Who are you btw? Just here to be negative?

The Jets played a fine game last night - it just didn't work out (as in, that's hockey). Look around the league and you see tons of teams with way more at stake 'choking'

Dallas has been red hot - full marks to them for putting pressure on the Jets. Nothing about the Jets game recently, especially considering we're missing 2 everyday defensemen and a top line winger says choke to me.

Thanks for stopping by.

Typical Habs fan is what he is.

 

[surixon]

Choke?

Who are you btw? Just here to be negative?

The Jets played a fine game last night - it just didn't work out (as in, that's hockey). Look around the league and you see tons of teams with way more at stake 'choking'

Dallas has been red hot - full marks to them for putting pressure on the Jets. Nothing about the Jets game recently, especially considering we're missing 2 everyday defensemen and a top line winger says choke to me.

Thanks for stopping by.

The game came down to two plays. A case where a couple players tried to play hero puck through the NZ and it bit us.

Other then that we payed a strong game but do need some of our players like Nino, Scheifele, Lowry to start putting the puck in the net with greater frequency then they have lately.

 

[gojetsgo]

people have the worst memories...

1st game vs the kings was during that 14 game road trip where we were soooo tired we couldn't even get into their zone the 2nd half of the game

2nd game both teams gave up nothing and we lost in overtime

this game we actually had way better opportunities then either of the 1st 2 games combined we just happened to whiff on a couple grade a's or just miss on the passes that would have set up some really good chances

 

[ps241]

Choke?

Who are you btw? Just here to be negative?

The Jets played a fine game last night - it just didn't work out (as in, that's hockey). Look around the league and you see tons of teams with way more at stake 'choking'

Dallas has been red hot - full marks to them for putting pressure on the Jets. Nothing about the Jets game recently, especially considering we're missing 2 everyday defensemen and a top line winger says choke to me.

Thanks for stopping by.

So one team has a record of 51-20-4 the other team has a record of 49-21-4 they are each fighting to be the top team in the NHL not just their division. Someone will end up in 1st and someone will end up in 2nd place and they both will have had amazing regular seasons. Choke

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt”.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Totally agree, Coghlan's game may suffer the more he played but we now know what Stanley brings and i wouldn't mind Coghlan getting a game or 2 and parking Stanley for a game or 2. If Schenn is playing we don't need both Schenn and Stanley in the lineup at the same time that's for sure.

Not directed at you, but this thinking that Stanley is in for his size is ridiculous. He does nothing with his size except be akward. He is not physical at all.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I packed it in after the Kings 3rd goal. Did not think we were going to come back from that.

Reading these boards after either a win or a loss is interesting.

We played well from what I saw, but hockey is also a game of bounces and opportunity missed or capitalized on. Some games it's just not there and this was one of them. Hats off to LA, they played better than we did.

It's probably a better game if Vilardi, Kupari, Schenn and Pionk were available to us.

 

[Howard Chuck]

The pp is definitely the biggest issue. That top unit needs to start moving its feet and moving the puck quickly again.

And shoot instead of the incredibly low percentage cross ice pass through traffic. You simply can’t score if you don’t shoot.

 

[10Ducky10]

Not directed at you, but this thinking that Stanley is in for his size is ridiculous. He does nothing with his size except be akward. He is not physical at all.

As evidenced by watching Perfetti take a cross check to the back of the neck and doing sweet feck all.
He is consistent at being very inconsistent.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Our schedule is just so much harder than Dallas to finish the season. We really need to beat them when we play and hope some teams play spoiler.

 

[Gm0ney]

The Kings are very good at locking it down with a lead...the Jets have been unable to solve them this year. They've held the Jets to under 20 shots in all three games (14 shots in the first game).

The 3 games vs. the Kings this year are the Jets' 1st, 2nd and 4th lowest game shot totals.

When the Jets went down 1-0, I thought...uh oh. When it became 2-0, I figured it was insurmountable.

And Stanley once again getting beat in the most ugly way possible is what's made him such a fan favorite! Real chef's kiss there...

 

[Howard Chuck]

I wish someone on the jets staff would tell us why they like Stanley over other players. He is not only bad, he has cost us games and I remember him costing Helle a shutout.

He kills all momentum and he is very timid. It’s so frustrating to see a player being trotted out so much that doesn’t offer anything. I should have counted how many of his outlet passes missed their mark or went directly to a Kings player.

 

[Jet]

The Kings are very good at locking it down with a lead...the Jets have been unable to solve them this year. They've held the Jets to under 20 shots in all three games (14 shots in the first game).

The 3 games vs. the Kings this year are the Jets' 1st, 2nd and 4th lowest game shot totals.

When the Jets went down 1-0, I thought...uh oh. When it became 2-0, I figured it was insurmountable.

And Stanley once again getting beat in the most ugly way possible is what's made him such a fan favorite! Real chef's kiss there...

Yeah that was the turning point of the game for sure. The Jets were mounting a comeback and carrying play but after that they sagged.

I thought they did well to fight back in the third but that PP with five minutes left was uuuuugly.

 

[surixon]

Not directed at you, but this thinking that Stanley is in for his size is ridiculous. He does nothing with his size except be akward. He is not physical at all.

Agreed, it says something when the smallest player on the team is much better at winning battles then the biggest.

The Stanley thing continues to perplex me. It's largely not due to his play (he's been good in his role moat of the year) but due to the sheer amount of resources this org has put into this player. I mean whats the end goal here other then him turning into a competent bottom pairing PK dmen. That amount of return falls well short in terms of expected pay out from the amount of resources invested in him.

Also the role they continue to groom him for is a role that this org has shown it can easily find in the market. Chevy has gone out and gotten comparable and better dmen in Dillon, Schenn, Miller etc over the years. Heck he drafted a better dmen late in Kovacevic. Finding dmen to play that bottom pairing PK role at a level equal to or better than Stanley isn't hard.

 

[jungles]

I wish someone on the jets staff would tell us why they like Stanley over other players. He is not only bad, he has cost us games and I remember him costing Helle a shutout.

He kills all momentum and he is very timid. It’s so frustrating to see a player being trotted out so much that doesn’t offer anything. I should have counted how many of his outlet passes missed their mark or went directly to a Kings player.

The thing I don't get with Stanley is, his ceiling is "fine". There is no upside that we are waiting for that we are willing to tolerate all the bad stuff in the meantime to get to it.

 

[gojetsgo]

they actually did take stanley out of the lineup but unfortunately fluery played horrible so stanley went back in, when pionk/schenn come back we probably see a rotation of who they think will suck less

 

[Gm0ney]

I wish someone on the jets staff would tell us why they like Stanley over other players. He is not only bad, he has cost us games and I remember him costing Helle a shutout.

He kills all momentum and he is very timid. It’s so frustrating to see a player being trotted out so much that doesn’t offer anything. I should have counted how many of his outlet passes missed their mark or went directly to a Kings player.

It seems strange for a team that's been flying so high these past couple of years to have such a blind spot with Stanley, but we've seen it before. There's some stubbornness and a kind of refusal to acknowledge or admit and fix mistakes that goes way back.

 

[Hobble]

I wish someone on the jets staff would tell us why they like Stanley over other players. He is not only bad, he has cost us games and I remember him costing Helle a shutout.

He kills all momentum and he is very timid. It’s so frustrating to see a player being trotted out so much that doesn’t offer anything. I should have counted how many of his outlet passes missed their mark or went directly to a Kings player.

Exactly. Stanley’s best game was arguably against Tampa where he had a goal and a fight. Otherwise, his “good” game is when he is effectively invisible. Problem is that he isn’t invisible more often than not.