Rumor: KINGS 2018-19 Season - The Luc and Rob ****show

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It can be both no?

I did not like the signing but had hopes it could work out. Two weeks into the season Kovalchuk impressed me and I thought once the team woke up it could provide real nice depth and scoring which was needed. Now WD is pissing all over any chance of it working.

It can be both but the signing is pointless if they are going to be trash with him performing at the level he was prior to WD.

Don't get me wrong: WD is a joke hire and a complete punt on the rest of this season; however, this team should have been selling and planning more for the future instead of adding $6MM on an enigma for the next three years, especially in light of how I'm being told cap space is so important in wake of the Pearson trade.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Kovalchuk demands a trade, then we can believe his claims of coming back to win a Cup. If not, it will appear he is pulling the classic "play in LA with no pressure and live by the beach" or, in his case, Beverly Hills.

If its the latter, it makes total sense as Blake crushed that move himself when coming back for his 2nd tour of duty.
 
It can be both but the signing is pointless if they are going to be trash with him performing at the level he was prior to WD.

Don't get me wrong: WD is a joke hire and a complete punt on the rest of this season; however, this team should have been selling and planning more for the future instead of adding $6MM on an enigma for the next three years, especially in light of how I'm being told cap space is so important in wake of the Pearson trade.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Kovalchuk demands a trade, then we can believe his claims of coming back to win a Cup. If not, it will appear he is pulling the classic "play in LA with no pressure and live by the beach" or, in his case, Beverly Hills.

If its the latter, it makes total sense as Blake crushed that move himself when coming back for his 2nd tour of duty.

So far I hate WD but if he gets Kovalchuk to waive his NMC than maybe some good will come of it.
 
It's pretty wild if that isn't the play.

The inmates run the asylum here so there is no chance WD is retained if he upsets the veterans. You would think screwing around with Kovalchuk would not sit well with these guys.
 
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You would think that after only getting an interim position in the NHL that Willie's biggest goal is to not make himself look like a dumb f***.

Good luck getting a job in the NHL again after this you asshat.
 
It's pretty wild if that isn't the play.

The inmates run the asylum here so there is no chance WD is retained if he upsets the veterans. You would think screwing around with Kovalchuk would not sit well with these guys.

I noticed after the goal celebration for brown’s empty net hatty, Kopitar was on his own leaning over the bench, right where Koalchuk was
sequestered. Makes you wonder.
 
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You would think that after only getting an interim position in the NHL that Willie's biggest goal is to not make himself look like a dumb ****.

Good luck getting a job in the NHL again after this you asshat.

I think all he cares about is winning as that is what will dictate if he ever gets another crack in the NHL. I do not agree with what is doing but he truly must think it is what will give the kings the best shot to win.
 
I'm just wondering when my earlier criticism of the signing being a bad move becomes gospel or if it will all be Willie's fault.

While many of us want to lose for Hughes, there is still the unenviable task of watching the rest of this train wreck of a season. Even if he isn't scoring, Kovalchuk provides the possibility of something exciting happening on a team that is painfully boring to watch.

If he can't play defense, cool. Most of the rest of the squad can't so I think most of us would rather keep on losing with the excitement he can provide one the ice rather than getting more and more of the Nate Thompson show: especially if the latter leads to tighter defense and maybe a couple more points in the standings.

It's fine to want that, but your hopes of losing rest on players and coaches who don't care at all about future draft picks. They may lose, but they don't want to lose. Even if Lombardi takes Doughty either way, Willsie might've cost them an asset by winning that extra game. Did Willsie ever get to see any of the success the Kings had? No. He did play 47 more NHL games after his time here, so he got a few extra pay checks. Maybe because he didn't quit while playing on a bad team, who knows. If Thompson can get one more contract from a team, he's going to play as hard as he can, and what fans want means zip.

Don't watch the product if you wish, but they're going to try to win every game they play. At least in theory. They've come out with what seems to be no desire to play a few times this year, but in general, they're going to try to win, no matter what that means for the long term status of the franchise. Fans have to accept that. GM's can have a longer term outlook, but coaches and players never will.

You would think that after only getting an interim position in the NHL that Willie's biggest goal is to not make himself look like a dumb ****.

Good luck getting a job in the NHL again after this you asshat.

The less Kovalchuk has played under Desjardins, the more often the Kings have won. Since W's and L's are all that ultimately matter, winning more often than not looks good for Desjardins. Not that they're winning more often than not, even under Desjardins, but specifically with Kovalchuk's ice time, the less he's played in a game, the more often the Kings have won. That's not making yourself look like a dumb shit. Apparently it's putting them in a better position to win.

The teams they've beaten under Desjardins aren't good, but the Kings are the worst team in the league, so any win is a good one for them.

Not a fan, let Rempal simmer and continue to develop in Ontario.

They need another forward for a road trip, and there's nobody else for that spot. Ontario doesn't play again until Thursday. At most Rempal misses 2 games, in either league, because of the call up. He's got 20 points in 14 AHL games. That's with a couple call ups already. I'm sure he'll be fine, either way, by the start of next week.
 
Fresh off trip, Futa dishes on European prospects, including Kupari, Prokhorkin - LA Kings Insider

Interesting stuff from Futa, especially re Porkins.

"But, get him signed now is my recommendation when I talked to Blakey when I got back, and you know what? I mean, if you want to make the National Hockey League, come and make our team and play in the National Hockey League. We’d be thrilled.
LAKI: Is this the final year of his contract there?
MF: Yeah, and again, he gave me his word that he wasn’t signing a new deal."

But I have to laugh. This is Futa returning from his trip:

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The less Kovalchuk has played under Desjardins, the more often the Kings have won. Since W's and L's are all that ultimately matter, winning more often than not looks good for Desjardins. Not that they're winning more often than not, even under Desjardins, but specifically with Kovalchuk's ice time, the less he's played in a game, the more often the Kings have won. That's not making yourself look like a dumb ****. Apparently it's putting them in a better position to win.

The teams they've beaten under Desjardins aren't good, but the Kings are the worst team in the league, so any win is a good one for them.

They have one win....just one since kovy had his ice time reduced to nothing so what you are saying is completely inaccurate. The last win prior to last night against st louis kovy played over 12 min still.

And no, any win is not a good win. Every loss is a good win.
 
It's fine to want that, but your hopes of losing rest on players and coaches who don't care at all about future draft picks. They may lose, but they don't want to lose. Even if Lombardi takes Doughty either way, Willsie might've cost them an asset by winning that extra game. Did Willsie ever get to see any of the success the Kings had? No. He did play 47 more NHL games after his time here, so he got a few extra pay checks. Maybe because he didn't quit while playing on a bad team, who knows. If Thompson can get one more contract from a team, he's going to play as hard as he can, and what fans want means zip.

Don't watch the product if you wish, but they're going to try to win every game they play. At least in theory. They've come out with what seems to be no desire to play a few times this year, but in general, they're going to try to win, no matter what that means for the long term status of the franchise. Fans have to accept that. GM's can have a longer term outlook, but coaches and players never will.



The less Kovalchuk has played under Desjardins, the more often the Kings have won. Since W's and L's are all that ultimately matter, winning more often than not looks good for Desjardins. Not that they're winning more often than not, even under Desjardins, but specifically with Kovalchuk's ice time, the less he's played in a game, the more often the Kings have won. That's not making yourself look like a dumb ****. Apparently it's putting them in a better position to win.

The teams they've beaten under Desjardins aren't good, but the Kings are the worst team in the league, so any win is a good one for them.



They need another forward for a road trip, and there's nobody else for that spot. Ontario doesn't play again until Thursday. At most Rempal misses 2 games, in either league, because of the call up. He's got 20 points in 14 AHL games. That's with a couple call ups already. I'm sure he'll be fine, either way, by the start of next week.

Oh please that's just hot garbage. No management is gonna say "hurdur he's competent "because of minor increase in wins against bad teams.

Kovalchuk has been the best player this season. What you said is very wrong.
 
Oh snap, yes you are right. Someone must be getting sent down unless we have roster space with Rempal up. Doubt there is a trade going down. Not the trade season.

Yes, interesting timing, recalling Rempal. Lots of scouts at the last few King games and also several scouts to see the Reign as well. But whom on the Reign would anyone want?
Clague? Rempal? Brickley? with Amadio, Wagner, Luff, and Petersen all up, those 4 could have been ones that were scouted. I would say Clague may be a target for some....
and part of a deal that would also include a Toffoli or Carter, etc. Kovy? (if he's asked to move on) Trades can happen anytime. If Rempal is in, who sits? Amadio probably.
I think Luff NEVER goes back...but Wagner probably will at some point. His game needs work - puckhandking - receiving passes. But how can you complain? He's been good. Good on the
forecheck and physical.
 
Are we still holding out hope for Porkins?

sorry, RacoonChrist! I should read prior posts before posting...been working 12 hour days, but will check before posting

From Lakingsinsider today. Futa just went to Europe and saw him and Porkins had a hatty and 2 assists...and said he is not signing another contract yet...(his deal ends this season)
so...who knows?

Thanks, to Jon Rosen! ::::::

MF: Oh, I’ve known Nikolai. The bottom line, it’s the same thing with Kubalik. Kubalik had a hat trick against Russia that Sunday. It’s like Groundhog Day. I meet ‘em every year, and we’ve grown up together talking about coming over to play, but in fairness it gets old. It gets really old. I mean, these guys want to play in the National Hockey League and I understand some of the European players have a little bit of a discrepancy about not wanting to play in the American Hockey League, but I think it’s time we get a player like that when you’ve got a player like that to get ‘em signed and get ‘em over here and play on our National Hockey League club and deal with it if there’s some chance that he doesn’t make the National Hockey League club. But when you see Prokhorkin show a game like that, there’s really no question that he’s skilled enough. It’s whether he can adapt to the NHL game. But, get him signed now is my recommendation when I talked to Blakey when I got back, and you know what? I mean, if you want to make the National Hockey League, come and make our team and play in the National Hockey League. We’d be thrilled.
LAKI: Is this the final year of his contract there?
MF: Yeah, and again, he gave me his word that he wasn’t signing a new deal.
 
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Of course they are going to go out and try to win. Fan are pissed about Kovy not playing and the W/L record isn't enough of an argument at this point for keeping him off the ice. Personally, I don't really care too much because the schadenfreude from Blake's signature move at the moment is delicious.

I'd never wish for this season but, since it is happening, it is pretty amazing that this franchise has gone from Sutter to Willie Desjardins in 18 months with a $6MM, 35-year old Ilya Kovalchuk being given six minutes a game less than two months into his Kings tenure. Dion Phaneuf is on this team for while, too. Life sure does come fast.
 
I just don't get why Carter and Toffoli get free passes and their icetime is never reduced, or demoted a line...and I do not get why Iafallo is CEMENTED on line one...he has to be the
WORST #1 line LW in the NHL for production in 2 years running. Granted, he's a resilient, decent, hard working player that could play on any team in this league...but he's not
a #1 LW. Now, if Alex's numbers were going up, fine...but they're not. 4 goals and 5 assists
on the #1 line is crap....there are now players with over 25 points all over the NHL.

And WD says "we've tried Kovy everywhere"...well not really. And Kovy had 14 pts in 14 games before
you left Team Canada and it's STILL more than any King. How about dealing with Iafallo, Carter and
Toffoli??? Kovy is not your only problem...he's actually a SOLUTION, if you get him off lien 3 and 4!!!
No King in recent years has EVER produced average NHL production from lines 3 and 4.
Get Iafallo off that line and put Kovy on it. Iafallo will actually probably get line 2 or 3 going
more! With his tenacity and creates more offense than Toffoli.

IAFALLO career numbers...mostly on line 1 and also when Kopi had a 92 point season!!
Career: 98 games 13 goals 21 assists 34 points. Just about ANY THIRD LINE LW in the NHL could have scored 34 pts on Kopis line in 98 games. Alex is loved by all, cuz he works pretty hard, skates well and is not a liability....but hell, when does production come into play? Move him down.
 
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I just don't get why Carter and Toffoli get free passes and their icetime is never reduced, or demoted a line...and I do not get why Iafallo is CEMENTED on line one...he has to be the
WORST #1 line LW in the NHL for production in 2 years running. Granted, he's a resilient, decent, hard working player that could play on any team in this league...but he's not
a #1 LW. Now, if Alex's numbers were going up, fine...but they're not. 4 goals and 5 assists
on the #1 line is crap....there are now players with over 25 points all over the NHL.

And WD says "we've tried Kovy everywhere"...well not really. And Kovy had 14 pts in 14 games before
you left Team Canada and it's STILL more than any King. How about dealing with Iafallo, Carter and
Toffoli??? Kovy is not your only problem...he's actually a SOLUTION, if you get him off lien 3 and 4!!!
No King in recent years has EVER produced average NHL production from lines 3 and 4.
Get Iafallo off that line and put Kovy on it. Iafallo will actually probably get line 2 or 3 going
more! With his tenacity and creates more offense than Toffoli.

IAFALLO career numbers...mostly on line 1 and also when Kopi had a 92 point season!!
Career: 98 games 13 goals 21 assists 34 points. Just about ANY THIRD LINE LW in the NHL could have scored 34 pts on Kopis line in 98 games. Alex is loved by all, cuz he works pretty hard, skates well and is not a liability....but hell, when does production come into play? Move him down.

I'm still on board with "play Iafallo wherever he works." Right now he isn't necessarily helping (or hurting) line 1--but early last year it was pretty clear he was enabling them so his production didn't matter. Then at the beginning of this year, he WAS our leading scorer, for whatever it's worth. The production potential is certainly there, just have to up the concrete production and consistency. At least he's always motoring when he's not scoring so there will absolutely always be a top-9 spot for a guy like that because he won't be too expensive but will ALWAYS help.
 
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