Kim Johnson says no to Olympics

[SChan*]

You are confusing two things.

Would it have been the same outrage? Probably worse since Näslund is more famous. It is possible that the punishment would have been worse due to a bigger outrage, but it could have been less due to the fact that losing Näslund would hurt more. We will never know.

Should Näslund have faced the same punhishment? Yes. And that is what matters.

not even the media agrees with the "punishment"

I am more interested of putting the best team sweden on ice than some sex morale story really. There are much worse things going on in the world for me to care about this.

 

[yarre]

I ask you as I have before. If Markus Naslund was involved instead of Huselius would the cry be as loud?

You are using the wrong guy to make a statement with also, Naslund hasnt done alot of good in the nationalteam, if it was Forsberg or Alfie... well, I think alot of people would question it more but I also think that alot of people wouldn't want them back to the team, it is worse when it is a player that alot of people look up to and they behave like this while they are representing their country, it is disrespectful.

 

[reaper]

Let's put it this way. If it had been Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin and Henrik Lundqvist in the gang bang would the media have been as harsh?. Yes, even worse since these players are much more famous. Would the punishment been as long? Probably not because these players are too important for the national team, that's always the problem when dealing out punishments, it never turns out totally fair.

 

[SChan*]

You are using the wrong guy to make a statement with also, Naslund hasnt done alot of good in the nationalteam, if it was Forsberg or Alfie... well, I think alot of people would question it more but I also think that alot of people wouldn't want them back to the team, it is worse when it is a player that alot of people look up to and they behave like this while they are representing their country, it is disrespectful.

bertuzzi's crime is a lot worse than Huselius and the gang, and still Gretzky didn't hesitated to have him on Team Canada. Well what's your thought about that then? Canada wants to win. The nice guys never wins.

 

[gobolt7]

It would be wise for some of you to get this back on topic...very quickly.

 

[larsmark]

You can't judge a person guilty when they have not done anything illegal! I don't support it but it was not illegal what they did. There are rules though that the players need to follow when they are out with the national team, that is what you can blame them for breaking. But this suspension is way too long.

Anyway, Kim Jonsson isn't the worst loss. We won't miss him in powerplay since Alfredsson and Sundin will play on point, probably with Lidström. Hävelid is as good as Jonsson in the defence so no bigger worries.

 

[kmad]

I agree with your point, but that never wins you anything in this world. (cue bertuzzi on canada)

why mention Bertuzzi and not Heatley?

 

[SChan*]

why mention Bertuzzi and not Heatley?

heatly's case was an accident.

 

[Leo Naphta]

Anyway, Kim Jonsson isn't the worst loss. We won't miss him in powerplay since Alfredsson and Sundin will play on point, probably with Lidström. Hävelid is as good as Jonsson in the defence so no bigger worries.

Kim would have played on the second PP-unit. No we need a replacement for him there. If Kronwall can go, I wouldn't be too worried - I'd rather have a fully fit Kronwall than Johnsson. But I would rather have Kim than Bäckman, his likely replacement on the second PP-unit.

 

[larsmark]

Kim would have played on the second PP-unit. No we need a replacement for him there. If Kronwall can go, I wouldn't be too worried - I'd rather have a fully fit Kronwall than Johnsson. But I would rather have Kim than Bäckman, his likely replacement on the second PP-unit.

Naaah, Lidström can play double shifts in worst case, that is no problem. Öhlund can play powerplay aswell but of course, if Kronwall is there it's absolutely no problem at all.

 

[yarre]

bertuzzi's crime is a lot worse than Huselius and the gang, and still Gretzky didn't hesitated to have him on Team Canada. Well what's your thought about that then? Canada wants to win. The nice guys never wins.

Maybe, though I don't know if he wants to hurt the guy or just start a fight, I don't think it went the way he wanted. While Huselius and the others probably knew what they did, even if they had a few drinks maybe, and they were on national assignments, I think you should feel honored to play with the national team and not treat it like a holiday.
I am not sure if I am saying that they shouldn't play for the team but I know I could never feel any respect for them, I rather have a team of "good" guys and win if possible, but if it came down to a player that would make a huge difference then I would probably want them to play.

 

[Seph]

Naaah, Lidström can play double shifts in worst case, that is no problem. Öhlund can play powerplay as well but of course, if Kronwall is there it's absolutely no problem at all.

Agreed, and if Kronwall doesn't play, Sweden can also add Tarnstrom as a bottom pairing guy/PP specialist. Just about anyone Sweden puts on the bottom pairing is unlikely to play much even strength, so they might as well have specialists there. If QBing the PP is a concern with Johnsson and Kronwall out, Tarnstrom would make sense.

 

[Robertsson 4-ever]

Fredrik Olausson(HV71), Jan Huokko(Södertälje), Ronnie Sundin(Frölunda), Per Gustafsson(HV71), Lars Jonsson(HV71) and then there is the 2nd tier...

These guys would make Sweden really weak on defense, I can't see any of them on national team right now actually. The only guys in Europe I would consider for a roster spot among defensemen is Jönsson, Ragnarsson, Boumedienne, Hasse Jonsson and perhaps Rhodin.

I'd take Tallinder any day, he was on my orginally selection and would have been a great compliment to Niklas Kronwall on my third pairing. His smartness, passning game and pysichal attributes would be a nice addition to the team IMO.

 

[Winston Wolf]

Hävelid is as good as Jonsson in the defence so no bigger worries.

That's absolute nonsense.

 

[Seiza]

I really think we need Doug Murray on our team. Unfourtunately BÃ…G probably never heard of the guy..

Both Öhlund and Bäckman can play PP (Tärnström too if he for some reason was selected). But I think we should play Alfredsson and Sundin on the point, Lidas could play on both PP-lines.

 

[SChan*]

That's absolute nonsense.

nice turnover by johnsson when philly lost to colorado. He is sometimes a liability in his own end.

 

[FoppaArGud]

This is exactly correct

Let's put it this way. If it had been Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin and Henrik Lundqvist in the gang bang would the media have been as harsh?. Yes, even worse since these players are much more famous. Would the punishment been as long? Probably not because these players are too important for the national team, that's always the problem when dealing out punishments, it never turns out totally fair.

True in pretty much every country IMO.

Who is going to replace Johnsson since he was actually ON the team?

 

[Seiza]

Who is going to replace Johnsson since he was actually ON the team?

Niklas Hävelid

 

[TK79]

heatly's case was an accident.

Yeah, it was an complete accident was driving 70 mph in a 30 mph zone. I think in any Scandinavian country Heatly would have found himself in jail.