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KHL Trades, Rumors and Free Agent Talk Part 6

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Exarz said:
Pretty high already, extremely high if the NHL decides not to go to the Olympics as his contract expires 2021.
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He said that he will play in OG's irregardless of NHL's decision already before the last games and we sure see how it went down. :sarcasm:
 
He comes back whenever he wants to. Which probably is when he starts slowing down. In that case, not any time soon as he is still such a force. The longer he stays away from Dynamo, the better.
 
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Well, Vityaz is beating them in the standings, what's the better way to deal with them if not just take the guys that make them successful :laugh: Classic SKA. All the Kochetkov's gong-show is also a sight to behold. It will come full circle when SKA almost certainly takes him back again at some point.

This is not a bad trade for Vityaz but it's obviously one forced on them by the mountain of money SKA possesses because from the hockey perspective, there was absolutely no need for them to do this.

It also means that either Samonov or Melnichuk, one of two guys with .94+ Sv%, is going to the VHL. Very cool.
 
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As much as I understood the moves from Byvaltsev and Li when they left us for SKA, it didn't work out, at least not hockey wise. What if they stayed at Amur?
 
Anyone knows the story behind waiving Prince and Shore's terminated contract? Both were excellent for them. I assume they wanted out? Minsk roster will look even more terrible right now
 
aonb said:
Anyone knows the story behind waiving Prince and Shore's terminated contract? Both were excellent for them. I assume they wanted out? Minsk roster will look even more terrible right now
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Initiative of these terminations definitely comes from the train-wreck Minsk management.
 
My guess this is just a knee-jerk reaction to "we are losing anyway so what are we paying you for".
 
Atas2000 said:
AkBars is probably still waiting for those crumbles from the Great SKA table. Not.
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On that note, Li is joined by Tikhonov and Rukavishnikov. Ak Bars is looking more and more like SKA's dump. This time they give up Ozhiganov, too.

Between the 2 of Avangard and SKA it seems like they have half of the league's RD supply. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut Rundblad though, he kinda failed in the bigger role.

Ak Bars has also picked up Leshchenko for Musin (Spartak wanted to get rid of his salary, I assume) which is a pretty nice pickup, he is a talented player and still only 24.
 
SoundAndFury said:
On that note, Li is joined by Tikhonov and Rukavishnikov. Ak Bars is looking more and more like SKA's dump. This time they give up Ozhiganov, too.

Between the 2 of Avangard and SKA it seems like they have half of the league's RD supply. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut Rundblad though, he kinda failed in the bigger role.

Ak Bars has also picked up Leshchenko for Musin (Spartak wanted to get rid of his salary, I assume) which is a pretty nice pickup, he is a talented player and still only 24.
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Damn. I'm very sad to see Leshchenko go. A favourite of mine. I do believe he would perform much better on a more skilled team like Ak Bars.

Do you have any idea who Musin is? I see that he played 1 KHL game and 14 in the VHL this season. Eliteprospects already has him in Khimik.
 
Witte49 said:
Do you have any idea who Musin is? I see that he played 1 KHL game and 14 in the VHL this season. Eliteprospects already has him in Khimik.
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Yeah, he is a small mobile D. Never quite good enough defensively to stick on the KHL team, he likes to skate around the D zone a bit too much. Was a pretty promising prospect himself 4-5 years ago together with other young Ak Bars Ds of that generation - Arbuzov, Abrosimov and Sidorov. Quite bizarre none of them turned into really solid KHL players in the end.

He is a depth guy at this point, I think Spartak took him simply because they wanted to get rid of Leshchenko's salary but didn't want to let him go for nothing.
 
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SoundAndFury said:
On that note, Li is joined by Tikhonov and Rukavishnikov. Ak Bars is looking more and more like SKA's dump. This time they give up Ozhiganov, too.

Between the 2 of Avangard and SKA it seems like they have half of the league's RD supply. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut Rundblad though, he kinda failed in the bigger role.

Ak Bars has also picked up Leshchenko for Musin (Spartak wanted to get rid of his salary, I assume) which is a pretty nice pickup, he is a talented player and still only 24.
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Don't embarass yourself. AkBars getting some depth players is crumbles?

Ozhiganov never fitted in. Now obvious that he and Kvartalnov never found common ground. One of the two had to go. Looking at the standings it was obviously not Kvartalnov. So it was just a simple trade. One better defenceman for a worse defenceman and a middle 6 forward. Anything wrong with that?
 
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Don't embarass yourself. AkBars getting some depth players is crumbles?

Ozhiganov never fitted in. Now obvious that he and Kvartalnov never found common ground. One of the two had to go. Looking at the standings it was obviously not Kvartalnov. So it was just a simple trade. One better defenceman for a worse defenceman and a middle 6 forward. Anything wrong with that?
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I agree Ozhiganov didn't quite fit in, was fairly disappointing and moving him was in Ak Bars' interests. However, the whole Kvartalnov thing is just BS. They worked together in Sibir, they worked together in CSKA and now, all of a sudden, they can't find common ground? If that was the case, Ozhiganov would have never signed with Ak Bars in the first place.

Nevertheless, even if we were to consider trading Ozhiganov was a necessity, the return stinks. You just traded a D who will almost certainly play in their top-4 for 2 guys SKA didn't need. Tikhonov played in 9 games this year. Crumbles is exactly what it is. So far, out of the trades with SKA, you got bottom pairing D (which you have loads) and two cap dumps. All on expiring UFA contracts too, 0 investment in the future. This is hardly a "simple trade", more like taking what you are being given.

It's not Ak Bars' fault, it's just the way this league functions with big teams hoarding 40 players each and redistributing those they don't need later. But there is no way in hell anyone could as a good trade for Ak Bars. They have obviously given up the best player in the trade for return which does nothing for them. Rukavishnikov is a non-factor and Tikhonov hasn't played a decent full season in 5 years.
 
SoundAndFury said:
I agree Ozhiganov didn't quite fit in, was fairly disappointing and moving him was in Ak Bars' interests. However, the whole Kvartalnov thing is just BS. They worked together in Sibir, they worked together in CSKA and now, all of a sudden, they can't find common ground? If that was the case, Ozhiganov would have never signed with Ak Bars in the first place.

Nevertheless, even if we were to consider trading Ozhiganov was a necessity, the return stinks. You just traded a D who will almost certainly play in their top-4 for 2 guys SKA didn't need. Tikhonov played in 9 games this year. Crumbles is exactly what it is. So far, out of the trades with SKA, you got bottom pairing D (which you have loads) and two cap dumps. All on expiring UFA contracts too, 0 investment in the future. This is hardly a "simple trade", more like taking what you are being given.

It's not Ak Bars' fault, it's just the way this league functions with big teams hoarding 40 players each and redistributing those they don't need later. But there is no way in hell anyone could as a good trade for Ak Bars. They have obviously given up the best player in the trade for return which does nothing for them. Rukavishnikov is a non-factor and Tikhonov hasn't played a decent full season in 5 years.
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It is a direct quote that trading Ozhiganov was Krartalnov's wish. Nothing to discuss there.

As for the return, just LOL. Depth players are depth players. No one expects them to rock the world. And you have no idea about AkBars depth charts. And if you think that ozhiganov is worth more than the two, you are just not goid at evaluating players.

You also have no idea about the power structure in russian hockey either. SKA can dictate exactly nada talking to AkBars... unlike with some other teams.
 
Can you link that direct quote? Not saying it didn't happen but there can be much more to it than "I don't like this guy lets trade him".

Depth players are indeed depth players. But you know who SKA's depth players are? Kuzmenko, Karpov, Kagarlitsky, Yakupov... And Ak Bars got Tikhonov instead. Hardly an amazing value. Yes depth players are depth players but I don't get your argument how Ak Bars wasn't in the position to ask for a better one. And I know that whoever gets the best player in the trade wins it. There is no value in getting 5 players that are crap for a good one.

Furthermore, please explain me the depth chart. Rukavishnikov isn't mobile, has no offense and doesn't play on the right. So who is he, in your opinion, overtaking in the depth chart? Pedan? Come on now.
 
Trinec manager confirmed they have an offer from Russia for Bartosak. Any guesses what team is it from? Traktor?
 
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