Yup the deal was like 2106/17 600/100 and then 2017/18 was 650. So a 2 year deal around $625,000 per. Per Khan
Have to think Sproul wanted it like that to look more appealing on the waiver wire.
Yup the deal was like 2106/17 600/100 and then 2017/18 was 650. So a 2 year deal around $625,000 per. Per Khan
Have to think Sproul wanted it like that to look more appealing on the waiver wire.
Yup that's pretty much my feeling as well, It does make it look more appealing on the waiver wire for him. Would think that maybe Toronto or Edmonton could take a flyer on him both could be looking for a bottom pairing RHD.
Im not sure what you guys mean?
"look more appealing on the waiver wire?"
500K/600K/700K. These tiny differences dont mean much.. They especially don't mean much if its 25K. If other teams had their eye on Sproul. They will claim him either way. Plus a 2 year contract if anything might be a deterent to claim him. Vs a 1 year deal.
IMHO no one wants Sproul. I don't think he ever makes the NHL.
I would LOVE to be proved wrong on that though. But I expect nothing from him.
If he's only signed for one year, someone invests time/money/etc. and he takes off...suddenly he's looking to negotiate for a (perhaps significantly) higher deal or hitting the open market and you're losing the guy and the investment for nothing when you could have spent the past year developing your own guy who you know will be around for awhile.
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If you want to minimize the risk of losing players to waivers you do the following:
Nielsen-Z-Tatar
Abby-Larkin-Nike
Vanek-Helm-Sheahan
Miller-Glenny-Ott
Dekeyser-Green
Kronwall-Marchenko
Ericsson-Smith
13th forward Pulkkinen
7th D: Ouellet
8th D: Sproul
Waive Frk, assign to GR after clearing waiver (becomes extra skater when injuries hit)
Wavie Jensen, assign to GR after clearing waivers (stays in GR because he has no future here)
Hoping Z still at center was an oversight.. Otherwise I expect that to be the line-up too. I'm also assuming Vanek starts riding the press box in a couple months.
His 2 year deals expires with him still having RFA status, so a 1 year deal would as well. Either way, don't believe he would "hit the open market".
*cough* strawman *cough*
If they would have not signed so many vets, and essentially made it obvious that guys like AA and Mantha were definitely getting significant minutes, then a comment like "the vets are on a short leash" makes more sense, because it shows a clear direction of youth taking over.
With the approach they used this summer (and have been predominantly using for several years now), those vets "on a short leash" likely will not only have ample leash to work with, but will most likely be replaced by other vets if they do get benched.
Detroit overvalues high-floor, low-ceiling guys. (In other news, water is wet.)
You responded to a post, arguing against something the person never said. That is exactly what a strawman argument is.You don't know what a strawman argument is, and you don't understand the nature of my comment.
Yet another strawman.It's always amusing to read people say something to that effect. The entire team is stuffed with Wings players, but people actually, really think the team doesn't trust their youth.
Of the 15 likely forwards 11-12 were Wings picks (11 with Ott). Of the 17 total with pro contracts, 12 are Wings picks. Of the 6 dmen, 5 were Wings picks. Of the 2 goalies, both were Wings picks.
18-19 players off of the 23 man NHL roster are Wings picks, and because the team has 4 or 5 vets from elsewhere on the whole roster, people will actually use that as support for the position that the Wings don't trust youth. That they somehow go out of their way to freeze out younger players from carving out roles on the NHL club.
Read each of those bolded statements. My point is that they're mutually exclusive. Extending the streak, continuing to be first round cannon fodder, is not at all "remaining good". It's clinging to low expectations and abandoning any meaningful accomplishments because you want to take the easy road.Well, that's how you build a consistent team.... which is obviously what they want. It's not 'overvaluing' to them because they place more emphasis on remaining good than you do. I don't understand why you consistently attempt to overwrite your assessment of value onto the teams, and then complain that the team isn't meeting your standard. They never tried to. It's like complaining that the team doesn't have a heavyweight they can roll out there to win fights. They aren't trying to win fights.
All Detroit is trying to do is extend the streak. That's it. The only rational discussion to be made is regarding the propriety of that strategy. Once one starts criticizing roster moves made based on them not meeting the goals of entirely different strategies, all people are doing is peeing up wind. It's like walking into Wendy's and denouncing them for not having Sweet and Sour Chicken.
Dude, if you want Moo Go Gi Pan, you're in the wrong restaurant.
Ideally I think you run:
Nyquist-Nielson-Vanek
Zetterberg- Larkin- Abby
Tatar-Helm-Sheahan
AA- Glenny- Ott/Miller
That puts a good amount of speed on every line, and puts scoring threats on every line, while also not having any lines be a defensive mess. I loved the Z-Larks-Abby line last year, and I think it is important to keep Larkin w/Z. Zetterberg helps him slow the game down a little bit, gives him a mentor on the ice, and allows Z to step in on a key faceoff if Larks isn't quite up to snuff there yet. Putting Nyquist with Nielson gives him a real playmaker to play with, and adds speed to that line. Vanek is there to do the dirty work and shoot. The third line can be fiesty, and I want to see what Sheahan looks like at Wing. Last line is speed and grit, but AA gives it the ability to score on occasion. Realisitcally though he'll go down and Miller will take that spot.
Defense:
Dekeyser-Green
Smith- Kronner
XO/ Big E-Marchy
I honestly think the Wings are waiting to see if one of Marchy, Sproul, Smith, or XO really grab a slice of the pie and take a top 4 spot or two. If none do I expect and early season trade.
Extras: Pulu, Sproul, Big E
Jenson and Frk get waived.
Mrazek
Howie
He'll certainly shoot, but I'm not sure about the doing the dirty work part. Does he do dirty work? I have not seen Vanek play a ton, but from what I have seen of him during the WCH2016, he seems to go out of his way to avoid doing any dirty work. There was one game where the TV guys were laughing at one such instance where he very clearly avoided going into the corner first after a loose puck.