Kevyn Adams GM thread

joshjull

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Adams overpaid for McLeod
Adams overpaid for Malmstyn
As much as this team needs a shakeup, I am not too confident in him making a major trade.
I’m not confident in Adams to make a trade to help fix things either. But thats because I think he’s paralyzed with indecision. He has no clue what to do to, so nothing is likely to happen.

That said….. I don’t think those trades were much of an overpayment. I also couldn’t care less if Adams, or a new GM, “overpays” for a few players that turn things around. We have more than enough assets to handle it. We just need someone who knows who to utilize them.

Worrying about getting good value in trades going forward is the least of our concerns.
 

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I’m not confident in Adams to make a trade to help fix things either. But thats because I think he’s paralyzed with indecision. He has no clue what to do to, so nothing is likely to happen.

That said….. I don’t think those trades were much of an overpayment. I also couldn’t care less if Adams, or a new GM, “overpays” for a few players that turn things around. We have more than enough assets to handle it. We just need someone who knows who to utilize them.

Worrying about getting good value in trades going forward is the least of our concerns.
This guy just doesn't know what to do. He thought Jokiharju and Samuelsson were the answer, he probably didn't even know Ruff didn't like LD on RD. He didn't trade for Marino, Kovacevic or Jensen to get Power a partner. He thought Benson, Quinn, Peterka and Cozens in the top 6 was fine. Honestly I think Karmanos would be a better GM than Adams, just a gut feeling and Karmanos' experience in the front office. Kevyn needs to go.
 
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Adams has failed at his job. It hurt me a little to type that, because I think he is a good man and I very much wanted him to be successful. It's time though.

Adams did fine on the tear-down and on the acquisition of young players through trades and the draft. That was always going to be the easiest part, though. Since the summer of 2023 we have been, or certainly should have been, in win-now mode. The return on the two off-seasons since we missed the playoffs by one point in 22-23, is that we are now on pace to finish behind where we did in 21-22, the first full year post-Krueger. This is an abject failure. GMs do not survive this level of failure.

Even accepting the premise that Adams is hindered by an internal cap (a premise that I agree with), he has failed miserably. Adams certainly would know that he has an internal cap. Then why expend so much of it on long-term deals for Cozens, Power, and Samuelsson. All could have been bridged, saving $5-7 million that could have been used to add more talent. GMs don't survive mistakes of this magnitude.

Adams is the architect of what we are seeing on the ice right now. There are many signs that the Sabres do not operate like a normal NHL team that has intentions of doing what is needed to win. The lack of spending. The insistence of not blocking prospects (except with more prospects). The sham coaching search that lead to the Ruff hire. If Adams survives this season and is given another draft and another off-season, it will just be a further indication that the Sabres are not a normal NHL team. And not in a good way.
 

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Adams has failed at his job. It hurt me a little to type that, because I think he is a good man and I very much wanted him to be successful. It's time though.

Adams did fine on the tear-down and on the acquisition of young players through trades and the draft. That was always going to be the easiest part, though. Since the summer of 2023 we have been, or certainly should have been, in win-now mode. The return on the two off-seasons since we missed the playoffs by one point in 22-23, is that we are now on pace to finish behind where we did in 21-22, the first full year post-Krueger. This is an abject failure. GMs do not survive this level of failure.

Even accepting the premise that Adams is hindered by an internal cap (a premise that I agree with), he has failed miserably. Adams certainly would know that he has an internal cap. Then why expend so much of it on long-term deals for Cozens, Power, and Samuelsson. All could have been bridged, saving $5-7 million that could have been used to add more talent. GMs don't survive mistakes of this magnitude.

Adams is the architect of what we are seeing on the ice right now. There are many signs that the Sabres do not operate like a normal NHL team that has intentions of doing what is needed to win. The lack of spending. The insistence of not blocking prospects (except with more prospects). The sham coaching search that lead to the Ruff hire. If Adams survives this season and is given another draft and another off-season, it will just be a further indication that the Sabres are not a normal NHL team. And not in a good way.
The internal limitation (if there is one) should not be an excuse. Does the internal limitation prevent Calgary from being 9th in the West, one point out of the wild card, or Columbus from being five points ahead of us, even though they had drama in the offseason and lost an important player. If anything, these two teams spent almost 12 million less than Buffalo. Adams is just a bad GM that's all, he spent five years basically just drafting and doing nothing to properly build a team and properly develop his young players.
 

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I’m not confident in Adams to make a trade to help fix things either. But thats because I think he’s paralyzed with indecision. He has no clue what to do to, so nothing is likely to happen.

That said….. I don’t think those trades were much of an overpayment. I also couldn’t care less if Adams, or a new GM, “overpays” for a few players that turn things around. We have more than enough assets to handle it. We just need someone who knows who to utilize them.

Worrying about getting good value in trades going forward is the least of our concerns.
Those trades are not looking good at all right now. If you see what Savoie is doing in the AHL right now that first one looks like it may end up catastrophically bad.
 

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Those trades are not looking good at all right now. If you see what Savoie is doing in the AHL right now that first one looks like it may end up catastrophically bad.
The only one who looks great is Zucker. McLeod has cooled off, Malenstyn is questionable for 2nd, Lafferty is terrible, NAK is just the number 12-13 guy probably. Reimer played little, but he was not completely reliable and one can recall the clown show when he was immediately put on waiver.
 

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His final dagger was insulting the people of WNY and making excuses for why he can't do his job with palm trees and taxes.

Fire this clown and don't ever let him associate with the crest of a Buffalo Sabre again.

He didn't insult anyone... and what he said was true.

He just obviously shouldn't have said it out loud and he is obviously not competent enough to work around those hang ups
 

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He didn't insult anyone... and what he said was true.

He just obviously shouldn't have said it out loud and he is obviously not competent enough to work around those hang ups
I'm not sure if that's true. He signed some UFAs and we don't know which of them would agree to come to Buffalo and which wouldn't. The trades thing is nonsense if most of the players don't have trade protection and there were players he could easily add.
 

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Those trades are not looking good at all right now. If you see what Savoie is doing in the AHL right now that first one looks like it may end up catastrophically bad.
I think this trade is going to sting once Savoie is up playing with Oilers most likely on a line with McDavid or Draisaitl which will inflate his numbers more.
 
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I think this trade is going to sting once Savoie is up playing with Oilers most likely on a line with McDavid or Draisaitl which will inflate his numbers more.
He's got 12 pts in his last 6 games. Also 12 in his previous 22. I don't think either of those are indicative of the player he is.
 

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He's got 12 pts in his last 6 games. Also 12 in his previous 22. I don't think either of those are indicative of the player he is.
Time will tell.

He's got 12 pts in his last 6 games. Also 12 in his previous 22. I don't think either of those are indicative of the player he is.
He also had 5 pts in the 6 games he played with the Amerks
 
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Those trades are not looking good at all right now. If you see what Savoie is doing in the AHL right now that first one looks like it may end up catastrophically bad.
You really love going over the top.

We acquired a needed 3C for this season in McLeod. We used a prospect who was unlikely to play for us this season and thus not going to help us. We also knew full well that down the road he may end up being the better player. The amount of young talent we had (especially Kulich) made it a doable thing. This trade is about as normal as it gets in this league.

I’m happy for Savoie that he doing well lately in the AHL. But it means nothing in the big picture of this season or whether the trade was worth it.
 

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You really love going over the top.

We acquired a needed 3C for this season in McLeod. We used a prospect who was unlikely to play for us this season and thus not going to help us. We also knew full well that down the road he may end up being the better player. The amount of young talent we had (especially Kulich) made it a doable thing. This trade is about as normal as it gets in this league.

I’m happy for Savoie that he doing well lately in the AHL. But it means nothing in the big picture of this season or whether the trade was worth it.
Only now he's 4C for some reason and I don't think that's a very good use of this guy. Only Zucker has been really great so far and he was UFA, the rest of the deals are getting worse as time goes on.

I have a feeling that Adams and Ruff are either in conflict or not talking to each other because the coach literally does a lot of things that actually make the GM look bad. It's like they didn't discuss the roster in the offseason.
 
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Only now he's 4C for some reason and I don't think that's a very good use of this guy. Only Zucker has been really great so far and he was UFA, the rest of the deals are getting worse as time goes on.

I have a feeling that Adams and Ruff are either in conflict or not talking to each other because the coach literally does a lot of things that actually make the GM look bad. It's like they didn't discuss the roster in the offseason.
He’s a defensive center who is centering a line with a heavy defensive deployment. A product of Kulich’s emergence and Cozens inability to play defense. So one line is getting buried in defensive work. But that’s neither here nor there.

The point I was making in my previous post is this isn’t a catastrophic trade, nor can it become one. The players and stakes involved were WAY too low in this trade to come close to that if it fails. If everything on this forum is catastrophic, then nothing is.
 

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I think this trade is going to sting once Savoie is up playing with Oilers most likely on a line with McDavid or Draisaitl which will inflate his numbers more.
There are TONS of things to be pissed off about with his franchise in all areas of the organization. But worrying about what Savoie might, maybe, down the road potentially do with McDavid? It shouldn’t even be on your radar because it can’t happen here for obvious reasons.
 

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He’s a defensive center who is centering a line with a heavy defensive deployment. A product of Kulich’s emergence and Cozens inability to play defense. So one line is getting buried in defensive work. But that’s neither here nor there.

The point I was making in my previous post is this isn’t a catastrophic trade, nor can it become one. The players and stakes involved were WAY too low in this trade to come close to that if it fails. If everything on this forum is catastrophic, then nothing is.
Then why not try moving Cozens to the wing and give McLeod more chances at center in the top 9? He even got chances in the top 6 with the Oilers, albeit not at center. I just think using him as a 4C looks questionable.
 

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