Fjordy
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He sold them all, Adams wouldn't sell them all if he wanted to, we have too many young prospects in Rochester and too many more outside of it. That's not good either.
Kevyn Adams GM thread
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ValJamesDuex
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I think you should be the next gm, I'm serious!
Whats another assistant gm when you have 3 ?I think you should be the next gm, I'm serious!
May Day 10
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I know they "had" to trade mcnabb because pegula drama, but woof on this trade
truthbluth
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They aren’t remotely in the same position as an organization. You could trade every single pick and prospect for talent and it still wouldn’t be as bare as the cupboard was after he was done. They lacked an organizational platform to build on. This team would still have a lot of young, talented players that one didn’t have. He was adding to nothing. We never add to anything.
How is that working out for Adams, and the organization?
And no one is saying trade everyone.
and everyone he brought in through tanking and trading went on to great success in this league. Trophies and cups for f***ing everyone.
You do what he did now? You’re the team that gets to celebrate adding an Eichel, RoR or Reinhart to your team.
Which should have happened three f***ing years ago.
May Day 10
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McNabb had a fling with one of the daughters and it went south.
truthbluth
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Every team considers themselves still in playoff hunt. Standings still tight. No one wants to trade away talent right now. Look at the standings
No trade partners other than to get garbage off their roster.
No trade partners other than to get garbage off their roster.
Fjordy
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Well, that's why it had to be done in the summer, when the teams were trading, and Adams didn't do it. He decided that he was comfortable with Jokiharju (Lindy wasn't comfortable), and in attack Adams decided that let the kids play and released the youngest team.
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I would have traded the daughter instead of the player.
Doug Prishpreed
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That is absolutely brutal. If Pegula forced the trade, I’m not sure you can blame that on Murray but who cares at this point.
Afraid to ask what those two 2nd rounders became.
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Alex Lintuniemi and Erik Cernak
EDIT: those two picks were originally traded to the Sabres from the Kings for Robyn Regehr.
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May Day 10
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Its the kind of nonsense that managers here have had to deal with. Is it any wonder LaFontaine and Craig Patrick stormed out a few days before that deal was made?
McNabb was a physical freak and a good prospect at the time (and we could have used him the past 10 seasons or whatever it has been)
Doug Prishpreed
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So we basically gave away McNabb and Cernak for nothing because Pegula. That’s so crushing…especially since those are two of the exact type of players the team has been missing forever. Oof
KeyserSoze81
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Wow, he literally is the worst possible owner and manager imaginable. Don't !@#$ your employees. Don't let your immediate family and heirs to your empire !@#$ the employees. I have had the misfortune of working in multiple multigenerational businesses, and even the undisciplined morons that I worked for knew that.
Beerz
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Glad we are just throwing baseless accusations with no verified source.
K8fool
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not true just since they traded Miller and after O'Reilly donut experience probably since 2016 to rolstn and housely wussification probably 8 to ten years
before than from 1970 to 2012 13 we were the second winningest franchises in the NHL behind Montreal
it really went south w erhoff and leino which some of you who know pegula gossip may know if they weren't anyone competent idea
finally lucic
it's been a while but 25 years it has not
K A and staff probably needs to growba pair eat it and overpay to string wins botteril failed or we'd still have that cocky lil shite eichel and made the playoffs without any depth , instead we have Tage and a possible d core and good young forwards w issues we'll see which is better or worse
before than from 1970 to 2012 13 we were the second winningest franchises in the NHL behind Montreal
it really went south w erhoff and leino which some of you who know pegula gossip may know if they weren't anyone competent idea
finally lucic
it's been a while but 25 years it has not
K A and staff probably needs to growba pair eat it and overpay to string wins botteril failed or we'd still have that cocky lil shite eichel and made the playoffs without any depth , instead we have Tage and a possible d core and good young forwards w issues we'll see which is better or worse
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Tijuana Donkey Show
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My hot take on Pegula is that his stupid "flat management" structure and it almost always leads to poorly defined roles and responsibilites, then inevitably Pegula having to take sides between, HC, Scout, and/or Presidents. It was an issue with Darcy, and Lindy, Black, and Brandon, and Whaley.
The only time Pegula's leadership style has ever worked is when he hired McBeane as a package deal, at nearly the same time, from the same org. So whenever there is a football decision to be made it is always 2 v 1 against Terry.
If the Sabres are ever going to get out of this never ending nightmare loop they will likely need to do the same. Bring in a HC/GM pair to continuously out vote Terry.
K8fool
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you have to give ruff guiding ka karmanos
and ownership half a season botteril and current GM have stocked the shelves and if you subtract the first 5 games we have a good record
the eye test says we playing competent Hockey as long as Krebs is doing stupid things and not learning you all might have a case
the team looks like it's on the right track 5 more than false win streaks
off the ledge all give them til the trade deadline they've earned enough good will w McLeod trade and zucker to waste some picks and have some leeway
and ownership half a season botteril and current GM have stocked the shelves and if you subtract the first 5 games we have a good record
the eye test says we playing competent Hockey as long as Krebs is doing stupid things and not learning you all might have a case
the team looks like it's on the right track 5 more than false win streaks
off the ledge all give them til the trade deadline they've earned enough good will w McLeod trade and zucker to waste some picks and have some leeway
Tijuana Donkey Show
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I will say that I would be open to Lindy bringing in his own GM, similar to McBeane. Then when the time comes moving Lindy to POHO and hiring the next HC.
Terry isn't going to relinquish his stupid leadership style, that means the deck needs to be stacked against him with somebody he trusts. I think our best bet is that Lindy is shining a light on how dumb everybody is around him.
May Day 10
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I get what you are saying, but the NHL is so much different than football. In football, the coaches are the CEO. In the NHL, coaches are at the bottom rung of importance or influence and are the first to get fired.
Personality-wise, we struck gold with the Bills with McDermott. I feel like he is respectful enough where he listens to Pegula, but is bullheaded enough where he does it his own-way (and probably outlines why). He sounds like an extremely convincing and thorough guy. I also think he is in the top 1/4 of NFL coaches, and even without Josh Allen, his floor is pretty high.
Hockey is so much more intricate than the NFL though. Salary cap decisions cannot be reversed in a year or 2. You are scouting teens across the planet in apples-to-oranges leagues and trying to project how they will play in the NHL as adults. The critical mix for an NHL team is much more complicated than a football team.
So let's just put Lindy as POHO.... maybe? He has extensive experience as a player, captain, and coach, and has seen multiple organizations at this point. He carries credibility and seems like he should be well-respected. Bringing in his own GM would be a good move, obviously because that is a big workload. I would rather Lindy bring in a GM as POHO though and not a HC. I think many GM candidates would balk at being selected by a HC. Firing a coach is a lever any GM should be free to pull at any time.
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