Rumor: Kevin Weekes Reports Allen Could Be Signed to Multi-Year Deal

[SlafySZN]

Pretty sure Weekes heard wrong and it was a multi year deal for Primeau, not Allen.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Why do this? Play Primeau next year and be done with it. Makes no sense to keep Allen long term unless he backs up Primeau or another goalie next year.

Primeau is not ready. You can’t just throw your prospects to the wolves. This isn’t EA sports NHL. You have to surround your prospects with veterans.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Still way too much dead cap space and we will likely be unable to benefit greatly from ELC players overachieving at bargain prices during our competitive window. That ship has sailed with Caufield/Suzuki

The idea of ELC players overachieving is great but of limited real world impact. Second contracts for top players are almost at UFA levels these days, so the bargain comes literally from the first three years. Most teams are lucky to have one star making a real impact in his first three years.

Putting together a contender is more about managing the overall cap, avoiding expensive anchors and always keeping room to pay for the core players and first-level complementary players, while having a large prospect pool to maximize chances that 2 or 3 make the team each year to have a significant impact within another year or two.

 

[Treb]

I disagree. Emphasis should be on Bedard. Allen extension is a patch up job. A good backup is available every off season. You going to regret not making your best effort for Bedard.

An Allen extension does nothing in regards to getting Bedard or not. He's going to be here until the end of the year unless Primeau forces himself as the NHL starter, but then he would replace the impact of Allen anyway.

Also, even if we have the worst season ever, we are not guaranteed #1 overall. With how weak some of the teams are, finishing bottom 3 would be a success.

Obsessing over Bedard positioning for a whole year is unhealthy.

If it takes getting Fantilli over Bedard for the best for our current prospects, so be it.

We already have a #1C, getting another is a luxury (which we may get anyway as long as we draft top10).

 

[Adam Michaels]

Primeau is not ready. You can’t just throw your prospects to the wolves. This isn’t EA sports NHL. You have to surround your prospects with veterans.

I agree. Allen is probably the perfect veteran to have as your goalie partner. And Allen is someone who will embrace his role no matter what.

 

[goforit]

I agree. Allen is probably the perfect veteran to have as your goalie partner. And Allen is someone who will embrace his role no matter what.

Plus, I don't see him earning a whole lot more than he does now. Allen at 2.5-3M$ for, lets say, 3 years doesn't prevent you from signing a #1 if none of Habs goalies prospects live up to the expectations.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Pretty sure Weekes heard wrong and it was a multi year deal for Primeau, not Allen.

No, Andy Strickland reported the same thing.. that Habs and Allen were working on an extension.

Andy is a beat writer for the Blues so would have connections to Allen.

 

[schwang26]

I'm good with Allen and Monty. Both compete hard and care, but they don't do a good enough job to win you games. With this tandem last year, Habs still finished last.

Don't forget Primeau and Hammond. The Habs finished last because they set a record for injuries, had bad coaching and essentially gave up to get the top pick. You guys that piss on the goaltending have to look at the other 5 guys on the ice

Sorry. Maybe not you, but others do big time.

 

[Runner77]

Don't forget Primeau and Hammond. The Habs finished last because they set a record for injuries, had bad coaching and essentially gave up to get the top pick. You guys that piss on the goaltending have to look at the other 5 guys on the ice

Sorry. Maybe not you, but others do big time.

Odds are we’re not going to get close to last season’s record lost man games total and with a half season in tow as head coach, MSL should be better.

But, he still ain’t got the horses as you aptly pointed out (overall mediocrity and not just the goalies) and I can’t explain how Burrows still has a job.

 

[Vachon23]

Allen is signing up to be the veteran back-up when the prospects are ready to take over. You can't just throw Primeau and the prospects to the wolves and start them night in and night out if they aren't ready.

Allen is insurance and a known locker room commodity.

Montembault said in an interview how much Jake Allen help him last year. Even when he was injured he was calling Sam after the games to help him. You need that kind of veteran in a rebuilding team

Pretty sure Weekes heard wrong and it was a multi year deal for Primeau, not Allen.

Pretty sure Weekes doesn't give a s*** about an AHL contrat like Primeau

 

[Runner77]

Montembault said in an interview how much Jake Allen help him last year. Even when he was injured he was calling Sam after the games to help him. You need that kind of veteran in a rebuilding team

Allen is in the same mold as Matheson and Monahan — someone Hughes might refer to as a quality human being.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Allen is signing up to be the veteran back-up when the prospects are ready to take over. You can't just throw Primeau and the prospects to the wolves and start them night in and night out if they aren't ready.

Allen is insurance and a known locker room commodity

My position hasn’t changed. Signing Allen to a multi year extension is a MB move. Hopefully we have moved on from this type of decision making. Allen could walk tomorrow and we wouldn’t know he left. He’s pretty much irrelevant.

 

[Vachon23]

My position hasn’t changed. Signing Allen to a multi year extension is a MB move. Hopefully we have moved on from this type of decision making. Allen could walk tomorrow and we wouldn’t know he left. He’s pretty much irrelevant.

To sign an other goalie at the same price ?

 

[WickedPegJets]

Allen/Primeau tandem next year?

A new 3-year extension for Jake Allen serves as a crystal ball for HuGo’s prognostication that this team will not seriously compete for the Stanley Cup until the 2025 season.

 

[Heffyhoof]

To sign an other goalie at the same price ?

But we could get a draft pick for Allen, then sign someone slightly worse (who that is I won't say), and we'd maybe have a worst draft pick for next year! The push for every single move to maximize theoretical returns 110% can make talking hockey difficult with certain posters.

 

[Vachon23]

But we could get a draft pick for Allen, then sign someone slightly worse (who that is I won't say), and we'd maybe have a worst draft pick for next year! The push for every single move to maximize theoretical returns 110% can make talking hockey difficult with certain posters.

Personally, I value more the development of our goalies and young Dmen then an other 3rd round pick

 

[WeThreeKings]

My position hasn’t changed. Signing Allen to a multi year extension is a MB move. Hopefully we have moved on from this type of decision making. Allen could walk tomorrow and we wouldn’t know he left. He’s pretty much irrelevant.

So you just want Primeau and Momtembeault to get destroyed night in and night out, with Guhle, Harris, Barron and Norlinder in front of them? That's the MB move.

 

[SlafySZN]

Montembault said in an interview how much Jake Allen help him last year. Even when he was injured he was calling Sam after the games to help him. You need that kind of veteran in a rebuilding team


Pretty sure Weekes doesn't give a s*** about an AHL contrat like Primeau

No i meant that maybe he heard wrong, thought it was Allen but it actually was Primeau.

 

[BLONG7]

So you just want Primeau and Momtembeault to get destroyed night in and night out, with Guhle, Harris, Barron and Norlinder in front of them? That's the MB move.

Although, MB would never give 4 kids the chance, he would have 4 slugs from Philly, and Edmonton......man that guy loved his 6-7-8 types of dmen....

 

[Mandala]

Primeau is not ready. You can’t just throw your prospects to the wolves. This isn’t EA sports NHL. You have to surround your prospects with veterans.

Next year means 2023-2024 just to be clear.

 

[Tyson]

I hear Allen is about to sign an 8 year 84.5 million dollar deal

 

[BehindTheTimes]

So you just want Primeau and Momtembeault to get destroyed night in and night out, with Guhle, Harris, Barron and Norlinder in front of them? That's the MB move.

Nope MB has never done a move like this. Whether they get destroyed with Primeau. Momtembeault or Allen makes no difference. They are all short term plugs.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Nope MB has never done a move like this. Whether they get destroyed with Primeau. Momtembeault or Allen makes no difference.

I don't think this is true. Allen is a real NHL goalie that can make saves, Montembeault is an AHLer, and Primeau is a prospect who isn't ready yet. I don't think it's the same thing at all, nor do I think it's good for a defenceman's development to have every mistake end up in the back of the net.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Extending Allen should be obvious. It is two years of not worrying about the goalie position and time to see what level Primeau can reach.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I don't think this is true. Allen is a real NHL goalie that can make saves, Montembeault is an AHLer, and Primeau is a prospect who isn't ready yet. I don't think it's the same thing at all, nor do I think it's good for a defenceman's development to have every mistake end up in the back of the net.

Let’s agree to disagree. Allen is not helping any dmen develop. Let’s be serious here.