Kent Hughes & Jeff Gorton General Discussion Thread - The Honeymoon Is Over

[BenchBrawl]

Having both Slafkovsky and Anderson at wing is a big asset. Few teams can throw two wingers like that at you. Although I think they'll trade Anderson.

 

[Tripledeke333]

You’re comparing Slaf to Lucic which is ludicrous. They obviously don’t have that comparison and the team did the work. Not only did they do the work, McKenzie had Slaf at 1 based on his survey also. Wright didn’t even go at 2, he went at 4!

I’m not saying it’s going to work out but you have to give draft picks time especially with new management. They did the interviews and the analysis. Your response makes it less likely Slaf reaches his ceiling because it builds negative pressure and we know how young kids respond to that. Give them a chance.

If Slaf does not reach his potential because of my post then he certainly does not have the character to deserve the 1OA.

It is not event that I think Slaf won't be good, it is just as based on risk/reward this is one of the most hugely moronic moves in modern sports history.

 

[Belial]

Any roster that is put out by any GM in Montreal will be considered PO worthy by you. You're just a yesman.

Excuse me mister negativity to hope for the best...

 

[BenchBrawl]

If Slafkovsky becomes prime Milan Lucic, am I supposed to even be mad? Prime Lucic was great.

 

[eklund the clown]

Regardless of the outcome the point is that the risk/reward of passing on Wright makes no sense at all. We essentially drafted a Lucic over a solid chance at Bergeron. It's not that I know the future, but I know the bet Hugo made is poorly thought out. This decision is like forfeiting a 65% chance at winning $10,000,000 for $ a 85% chance at winning $100,000. Stupid bet by Hugo.

If Wright is as good as most think he is why did it take 3 teams pass on him?Why did another team not trade up seeing he was still on the board?

 

[JackZap]

Regardless of the outcome the point is that the risk/reward of passing on Wright makes no sense at all. We essentially drafted a Lucic over a solid chance at Bergeron. It's not that I know the future, but I know the bet Hugo made is poorly thought out. This decision is like forfeiting a 65% chance at winning $10,000,000 for $ a 85% chance at winning $100,000. Stupid bet by Hugo.

Hoping this doenst turn out to be an Aaron Rodgers situation. Worried they overthought this pick, ngl

 

[BenchBrawl]

If Wright is as good as most think he is why did it take 3 teams passing on him?Why did another team not trade up seeing he was still on the board?

Good prediction yesterday. Seems you have insider info, maybe. I will trust more in the future.

 

[Saundies]

Having both Slafkovsky and Anderson at wing is a big asset. Few teams can throw two wingers like that at you. Although I think they'll trade Anderson.

I think they will too. Hughes has been talking too much about him for it not to happen, I think.

I like Andy but so do NHL teams and if they're willing to pay, so be it.

 

[Tripledeke333]

And yet you're pretending by claiming one is potentially Lucic, and the other is potentially the best defensive forward and near permanent Selke winner for over a decade.

Slaf is a power forward archetype while Wright is a two way Selke center archetype. Do you disagree? The point is the risk/reward of passing on the Selke Center makes no sense at all. You have to be sure Wright will bust for it to make a lick of sense.

 

[Tyson]

The thing though is we don't need to replace him next season. Get a veteran UFA if anything. We'll finish bottom 5 and that's going to pay off.

Love Romanov though. I'm sad.

With UFA signings opening up next week the Habs are hard against the cap.

 

[Belial]

Our left side has played zero nhl games combined.. .

Edmundson is still there, you see these Debbie downers usually don't even know what they're talking about.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Slaf is a power forward archetype while Wright is a two way Selke center archetype. Do you disagree? The point is the risk/reward of passing on the Selke Center makes no sense at all. You have to be sure Wright will bust for it to make a lick of sense.

Wright is not a Selke center archetype. He has not proven to be on this trajectory. Maybe one day, but no reason to think he will.

 

[Tripledeke333]

If Wright is as good as most think he is why did it take 3 teams pass on him?Why did another team not trade up seeing he was still on the board?

New Jersey was not going to take a Center as they don't need one.

Arizona thought Cooley has a better chance of staying long term as is American.

I would have loved for the Habs to trade #13, #26 and next years Florida pick to move up to 4 to take Wright. Now that would be a great draft.

 

[Milhouse40]

Man when management changes you give them a chance. Bergevin was given a clean slate when he joined. Hughes and Gorton have to remodel the roster in their image. They have to be given a shot. You have to give new management a shot to prove themselves. If they’re just crap anytime they do something you disagree with, you’re just a keyboard warrior and you’re wasting your time supporting a team.

Go back if you like......I absolutely loved everything this new management did, big cheerleaders since they came in, that's the first time I criticize them.

I'm not calling for them to be fired but I'm not someone who love everything my teams does cause it's my team, I'm able to have an opinion of my own. We will see next year.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Excuse me mister negativity to hope for the best...

Im not mister negativity. I call them as I see them. You'll just blindly follow any GM.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Edmundson is still there, you see these Debbie downers usually don't even know what they're talking about.

Alright I'm now a Debbie downer because I don't see playoffs this year

 

[Saundies]

They picked Slafkovsky because he was the most NHL ready player
They went after Dach to find a hidden gems instead of taking the time of like drafted Nazar with that 13th overall and they mentioned that picking Slaf was exclusive to that trade, without it, they pick someone else.......that's the shortcut.

When I say fans don't have patience, I mean if the famous category of taking unicorns and then telling fans to ''wait, wait, wait, he's still young, will take a long time, some players takes longer bullshit''. You know the same things we said about KK, Drouin, Galchenyuk and as we did with other players too. We played that game so many times and never won anything.

As you mentioned....longer term project.....shouldn't be cause that's why they get those guys, so it wouldn't be a longer term projects.

I'd argue Wright is more NHL ready than Slaf. I can see Wright making the Kraken and playing the whole year next year, where I can only really (at this point) envision Slaf playing his 9 games and then going to Laval.

I definitely understand your sentiment and frustration about unicorns. We've been burned too many times in the past. And it's not like I'm over here jumping for joy about what we did last night, I'm super confused. But I look at it the opposite of wanting to "win now" in that HuGo knows we're going to suck next year too, so they're putting together a group of young ass kids with potential to all sink or swim together.

Suzuki, Caufield, Barron, Dach, Slaf, Guhle may make the team, possibly Ylonen, even Poehling... Some of these guys are going to have to make it work. You could argue Zukes and Caufield already have but the other lads have a lot to prove and they're about to be baptized by fire.

Interesting strategy. Has the potential for catastrophic failure, but interesting nonetheless.

 

[cave troll]

Get back into your cave you troll...

If Price is back, that roster is definitely fighting for a PO spot.

Lol. Deslusions already starting.
We have a team with one Top 6 C and a team without both 1st line D-men.
Also, to even start thinking about playoffs, players like Dach, Hoffman, Droiun, Gally will have to explode out of nowhere and bring their best. What are the chances for that?
We should go for Bedard and do everything in our possibilites to get him. 31st again? I'm OK with that.

 

[WeThreeKings]

There's no way this team is finishing above Toronto, Tampa, Boston (with Bergeron returning) or Ottawa in our own division and I think, depending on what Detroit and Buffalo do.. unlikely we pass them either.

We've got a bottom 10 finish coming up unless Dach and Slaf are hitting 60 pts next year.,

 

[ReHabs]

You know, ExpatHabs, I have been patient with you, despite you annoying everyone with your constant tedious repetitive arguments, but if you're gonna be a jack ass I'll do myself the favor of putting you on ignore. I'm not there yet, but I have been nice with you until now.

You just said you were trolling the fans here last year because you felt like it.

 

[eklund the clown]

What about all the other teams? If they knew NJ didn't need a center why not trade up?If it wasn't for lowly Seattle he may have slipped much further.

 

[Omar]

If Slaf does not reach his potential because of my post then he certainly does not have the character to deserve the 1OA.

It is not event that I think Slaf won't be good, it is just as based on risk/reward this is one of the most hugely moronic moves in modern sports history.

It’s not because of your post, the negative energy surrounding picks people don’t like does contribute and we all know it.

You don’t know what Wright will become to know how big of a risk reward this was.

 

[Belial]

Im not mister negativity. I call them as I see them. You'll just blindly follow any GM.

It's weird that you didn't get the vibe yet, I'm supporting the Montreal Canadiens doesn't matter who the GM is.

 

[BenchBrawl]

At their peak, there wasn't that much difference between Bergeron and Lucic.

I'm not even sure Lucic didn't have more impact on the identity of those Big Bad Bruins 2.0 teams than Bergeron.

It was Zdeno Chara, Shawn Thornton and him, a trio of pure badasses, and they had many other tough players on the team, like Boychuk.

Lucic was crucial and unique.

 

[Belial]

Alright I'm now a Debbie downer because I don't see playoffs this year

Not expecting PO also but I can still see them make it...