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Ken Holland named NHL hockey operations consultant | NHL.com
Former Oilers, Red Wings GM was inducted into Hockey Hall of Fame as Builder in 2020
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Ken Holland named consultant to NHL Hockey Operations.
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tarheelhockey
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NHL is gonna miss the playoffs this year
what's it called when you invent new clubs for old boys
FlameChampion
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Kind of surprised that he didn’t have something else lined up after Edmonton. Brad Holland also left (maybe he was let go) so was kinda expecting him to follow his papa somewhere.
Suntouchable13
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Work is all he knows. If he retired and just did f*** all, I think he wouldn't even know how to deal with that. Some people are like that.
BenningHurtsMySoul
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It's more lucrative to be a member of the OBC than it is to be a professional hockey player. You'll never be out of a job.
Coffee
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Sorry if non related , but is that why some people start drinking everyday? I heard about this once too
Suntouchable13
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Just to answer your question/comment: I am not really sure, but my guess would be yes.
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As much as he was well past his expiration date as a GM, I think he can be valuable to the league in this role.
He's incredibly knowledgable and has had good ideas about the game.
He's incredibly knowledgable and has had good ideas about the game.
Mr Kot
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Yeah, some people's livelyhood involves work, even until they literally can't do it anymore. Drinking, sadly, is one of the crutches some of them choose when they have nothing else to do.
jigglysquishy
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I wish I could fail upwards like this and make tons of money being bad at my job.
Holland was a really early advocate for the 3on3 OT we currently have now in the NHL. Not sure what his work will be like as a consultant, but it may be something he could be good at.
I mean, he did wonders in Detroit for a long time. Sure the game has grown past him, but he has a history of success (at one point)
I mean how did he fail? Stanley cups, hall of famer, made the cup finals last year as gm of the Oilers. I fail to see how he's a failure at all
See luc robitaille, rob blake and marc bergevin. There are many other examples
HockeyVirus
Woll stan.
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TheGingaNinja
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Definitely feels like a put out to pasture, or ride off in to the sunset sort of job to me.
Keep him away from anything cap related in the head offices though, lol.
Keep him away from anything cap related in the head offices though, lol.
Jeune Poulet
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So bad, he is one of the winningest GM of all times and is already in the HHoF.
ICanMotteBelieveIt
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Pierre-Luc Dubas
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Kind of a shame he didn’t have one more year in Edmonton. Last season saw his reputation largely rehabilitated as some of his more recent draft picks started to bear fruit and it seemed that he had finally hit on the right combination of depth pieces around McDrai.
I gotta think he would’ve signed the “STL Two” and those offer sheets never happen.
I gotta think he would’ve signed the “STL Two” and those offer sheets never happen.
WarriorofTime
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Dude might be the luckiest Hockey Executive, maybe even luckiest Sport Executive, of all time.
Never has a resume looked so strong on paper and yet the fanbases of the teams he worked for hated him so much.
SirKillalot
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This is just plain incorrect.
He was part of building up Detroit and won 4 Stanley Cups for it, 3 as GM.
Also been in 3 other finals, with two of them being as GM.
He gets criticised and to a degree unfairly of the last 4-6 seasons of his end in Detroit. Where they were holding on to the playoff streak. It's hard to per se fault him as even though one lost one of the best defenseman of all time in 2012, they still made the playoffs for 4 years after and had pieces to compete. The criticism goes into potentially start the process earlier than what they did, and that they were not great in drafting correctly in those years. That is one part
The other two parts I'd say is the ones that have put some negatives on his resume is not being able to adjust to the cap quickly enough in terms of understanding where to pay players vs. not. Meaning to many role guys getting too much money and term. The other in general is trading future for precent with deadline deals that more often than not didn't work out, though those who hit were really great. But the strong emphasis he has had on veteran players have at times gone too far.
I think them getting to the final last year showed he still is capable, added some good pieces to get there. The Oilers team isn't perfect obviously, but to a degree it started to show he finally figured out the cap vs. where to put the dollar. Still hard to rectify some of the mistakes, but the adjustments was for the most part pretty good.
EdmFlyersfan
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When Kenny left the Oilers:
- Downgraded their GM
- Downgraded defense
- Lost 2 key young players (Broberg & Holloway)
- Lost speed throughout the lineup
- Became the oldest team in the NHL
Pretty crazy.
