Kempe or Boeser
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biturbo19
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Kempe pretty easily for me. He's bigger, stronger, faster...better shooter at this point probably. Also cheaper, and will be next year too.
Boeser is maybe the better passer/facilitator. But i don't think he's a true "play driver" offensively in that sense and a lot weaker in transition. So not nearly enough there to outweigh what Kempe brings to the table in other aspects.
Boeser is maybe the better passer/facilitator. But i don't think he's a true "play driver" offensively in that sense and a lot weaker in transition. So not nearly enough there to outweigh what Kempe brings to the table in other aspects.
Interesting question. Kempe is everything I want boeser to be. But at the same time boeser has that innate ability to finish from all areas.
If boeser could skate like Kempe or if Kempe could finish like boeser everyone would be so happy.
If boeser could skate like Kempe or if Kempe could finish like boeser everyone would be so happy.
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Yeah not trying to hate on Boeser but when not scoring Kempe brings a LOT more to the game and is cheaper...and the biggest ability, availability. He's an outstanding two-way player who is the no-brainer next C after Kopitar. I think it's Kempe, not by a mile or anything, but clearly. But I think we've all been robbed of a fully-healthy Boeser for big chunks of his career.
Kempe has seasons of 41, 35 goals and is on pace for 44 this season. Boeser has seasons of 40, 29 and is on pace for 32 this year. And this is on a low-scoring Kings team.
I think my instinct was also to call Boeser a better 'sniper' and playmaker as nebulous as those terms may be but Kempe can most certainly finish like Boeser in the results.
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Not to mention the Nucks have more forward depth than the Kings meaning teams are more likely to double team Kempe. Kempe instead of Boeser on the Nucks would actually be scary, whereas Boeser on the Kings would make them even worse offensively.
There might be an argument offensively, but Kempe is just a better all around player. Boeser can be a ghost if he’s not scoring, especially in faster games.
Kempe by miles. He’s not exactly playing with Pettersson and Miller and Hughes in LA and he’s still better, all over the ice. Boeser is a better finisher, I guess. I’d give up awful things to have Kempe on my team; I’m not even sure I’d want Boeser.
Kempe is just as good of a finisher but he’s also better at almost everything else as you mentioned
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I think this is underrating Boeser a bit. Kempe is the better player and I don't think that's controversial. Boeser is too inconsistent and has too many injuries to even say what a consistent Boeser looks like.
But better finisher is a bit of a tough argument to make when Boeser has shot at 20% for 2 years now. The guy has always been a more efficient shooter than Kempe and he finishes from everywhere. The problem is Boeser doesn't do much else other than that, and when he's not scoring he's basically as invisible as a player can be. But finishing is the one skill he has at an elite level. If Boeser actually was able to consistently create his own chances like he did when he was younger, then he'd score a ton more, but he just doesn't really.
Voted Kempe since its obvious. Other than pure finishing its not really a competition. Boeser is a great guy too it seems, so maybe in a nice guy competition or a hairstyle competition it could be a real battle.
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There is something to be said for that ability Boeser has, as a master of the "invisible game" where he somehow comes away with 3 points and it feels like you barely even saw him out there. One way of looking at that, is that it's unfortunate that he can disappear like that. The flip side though, is that even when he disappears, i think it speaks to something about his offensive smarts and instincts in general, that he tends to still come away with some points from...somewhere. But yeah, he does tend to struggle to make an impact more when the pace and intensity ramps up.
Boeser is one of those players who "finds space" and is really underrated at getting to those soft spots and opportunities to support the puck in the offensive zone in an effective manner. So he ends up with a lot of extra quick "puck touches" that lead to him picking up some shrapnel points even when he's not scoring himself. Though that also plays a smaller, but important role in facilitating that offense.
Whereas Kempe is more the type of player who "makes space" with his physical tools. He has that ability to skate to open ice that Boeser isn't fast enough to touch. And that size+speed combo can back defenders off to create space that way as well. I don't think he's got the same natural feel for offensive zone hockey and timing as Boeser, but he doesn't really need to. Especially when there's such a gulf between the two in their neutral zone and even own zone effectiveness.
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Raccoon Jesus
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He's only a 1% better shooter for his career and still only 2% better this year even if it's elevated
Again, Kempe has seasons of 41 and 35 goals and is on pace for 43 this year
Boeser has seasons of 40 and 29 and is on pace for 32 this year
I don't think that's significant enough to suggest Boeser is any kind of clearly 'better finisher' because he's barely more efficient as it's barely and you talk about Boeser finishing from everywhere as if Kempe doesn't have that in his arsenal...
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It’s kinda weird to reference pace only partially. Boeser had 29 goals in 62 games and 26 goals in 69 games. He’s a career pace of 30+ goals/82 games through >500 games - and that’s while playing with some injuries and personal baggage (not a coincidence he had his biggest year after his family stress seemed to be behind him).
Not that it’s going to sway much. But let’s describe the guy right.
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Kempe is an absolute monster. Him and Buchnevich are such ideal wingers for winning teams. This is a AINEC for me.
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Raccoon Jesus
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Not any weirder than using two seasons' shooting percentage but here we are.
But in that case sure, since breaking out, Kempe's been at a 37 goal pace.
