Kaprizov vs Rantanen

[PatrickMcC]

Who is better?

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[Ana Crusis]

The one who doesnt have mackinnon on the 1st PP unit

 

[Regal]

Kaprizov has produced nearly the same the past 3 years with less support.

 

[redwings86]

Right-wing Finn Rantanen meant better hockey.

 

[jonlin]

The one who doesnt have mackinnon on the 1st PP unit

Rantanen has actually had the same production when MacKinnon is injured...

 

[CanadienShark]

Kaprizov

 

[jonlin]

Last 4yrs(+ this seasons start):

Rantanen 27yr old

294gp 167g 210a 377p playoffs 48gp 21g 41a 62p

Kaprizov 27yr old

283gp 162g 176a 338p playoffs 19gp 10g 2a 12p

Same age, close production, albeit Rantanen has a small edge at ppg. Playoffs though...

 

[Kshahdoo]

Last 4yrs(+ this seasons start):

Rantanen 27yr old

294gp 167g 210a 377p playoffs 48gp 21g 41a 62p

Kaprizov 27yr old

283gp 162g 176a 338p playoffs 19gp 10g 2a 12p

Same age, close production, albeit Rantanen has a small edge at ppg. Playoffs though...

People usually call it mental equilibristics. Why do you take Kaprizov's rookie season? Let's take last 3 seasons.

Rantanen: 237 gp, 133+168, 301 p.
Kaprizov: 223 gp, 133+146, 279 p.

So 1.27 PPG vs 1.25 PPG, but Kaprizov has a little bit better GPG. Basically the same.

Now playoffs is a team's achievement. Edmonton couldn't make playoffs with McDavid for 3 seasons, does it mean Rantanen is better than McDavid? Don't forget that Kaprizov played injured in 2023 playoffs and was a rookie in 2021 playoffs.

And now to the teams that are around both players. One is a former SC champion, the other has -$14M on salary cup. It would be strange to ignore this.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I’m with the Finns on this one.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kaprizov but Rantanen is a beast

 

[elmaco]

Rantanen cause he's a proven winner.

 

[jonlin]

Why do you take Kaprizov's rookie season?

Both players are same age! "Rookie season"...

 

[Regal]

Both players are same age! "Rookie season"...

He was an older/developed rookie, but there’s still an adjustment to a new league

Rantanen has actually had the same production when MacKinnon is injured...

His per 60 numbers away from MacKinnon are significantly worse though.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Coin flip

 

[dirtydanglez]

rantanen. he'll never get credit until he leaves colorado.

 

[deejb]

The one whose best assistant is 35+ years old Zuccarello.

 

[wetcoast]

People usually call it mental equilibristics. Why do you take Kaprizov's rookie season? Let's take last 3 seasons.

Rantanen: 237 gp, 133+168, 301 p.
Kaprizov: 223 gp, 133+146, 279 p.

So 1.27 PPG vs 1.25 PPG, but Kaprizov has a little bit better GPG. Basically the same.

Now playoffs is a team's achievement. Edmonton couldn't make playoffs with McDavid for 3 seasons, does it mean Rantanen is better than McDavid? Don't forget that Kaprizov played injured in 2023 playoffs and was a rookie in 2021 playoffs.

And now to the teams that are around both players. One is a former SC champion, the other has -$14M on salary cup. It would be strange to ignore this.

It's not like Kaprizov is being deployed with scrubs out there either so this whole selective backlash against guys like Rantanen and Draisaitl is getting overstated quite a bit.

As for playoffs Rantanen has an excellent individual resume while Kaprizov has one excellent first round then 2 meh ones.

I took Rantanen mainly because he has a better 2 way game and can be used successfully at center if needed.

 

[Kshahdoo]

It's not like Kaprizov is being deployed with scrubs out there either so this whole selective backlash against guys like Rantanen and Draisaitl is getting overstated quite a bit.

As for playoffs Rantanen has an excellent individual resume while Kaprizov has one excellent first round then 2 meh ones.

I took Rantanen mainly because he has a better 2 way game and can be used successfully at center if needed.

Last season Kaprizov playing like shit (by his standarts) for half the season while recovering from an injury still scored overall at the same pace point wise as Rantanen, and scored more goals. If we take the part of the season after Kaprizov was moved to EEk and Boldy, he was on the whole another level than Rantanen.

 

[topseed]

I'd take Kaprizov. Can't compare Wild to Avs. Playing with 2nd best C in the league and at worst 3rd best offensive D.

 

[redwings86]

The same level.