Proposal: Kapanen for Virtanen

[Mortimer Snerd]

Torontos adding, but the potential upside for Virtanen means we're not moving him for a downgrade. Thanks, but no thanks.

Neither side adds. Kapanen is the more skilled player but Virtanen brings physicality that the Leafs could use. It is an interesting idea. Might be a win/win for the teams and for the 2 players as well.

 

[Halla]

pass from the leafs. Virtanen has done nothing since getting drafted.
52 pts in 50 games draft +1, 1a in 12 career AHL games, 14pts in 65NHL games...

last year i think many leafs fans woulda made this deal. With Kapanen lighting up the AHL (and still one of the youngest players), most would pass easily

 

[Randy Randerson]

Hard pass as a leaf fan, Kapanen is the highest ceiling left on the farm and currently increasing his stock value drastically. Virtanen still has some value but he's definitely trending the opposite way and I think they passed eachother on the value scale already

 

[93LEAFS]

Pass for the Leafs.

Main difference between Rychel and Virtanen?

Skating, and there is a big gap there. For all his faults, Virtanen is a high-end skater with a great shot. If everything every clicked he's probably Bill Guerin.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Wouldn't do this from a leafs pov. Don't want to move kapanen

 

[Soups On]

Vancouver passes. Despite this management's stupid decisions, Virtanen still has high upside and the possibility that he puts all of his tools together is worth the gamble in keeping him over Kapanen. Not saying Kapanen is bad, but Virtanen's potential is not something I would want to give up on at this time.

 

[RoyalGremlin]

I like Kapanen. He doesn't bash players heads into the boards.

 

[Randy Randerson]

I like Kapanen. He doesn't bash players heads into the boards.

isn't talent a more valuable commodity than grit at this juncture?

Edit: nvm I thought I read "but he doesn't bash players heads into the boards"

 

[The Thin White Duke]

For a supposed "heart and soul tough player" I saw absolutely nothing from him in an incredibly chippy game against Toronto. It was literally the perfect situation for him to assert himself, you have the moral highground against a team of rookies with only one real heavyweight, and Virtanen is absolutely invisible all game.

If the physical game isn't in the debate, I don't see where he's better than Kapanen. Speed and shot are roughly equal, Kapanen is more aware defensively and doesn't take dumb penalties at bad times.

 

[6ix]

Absolutely not. Virtanen has a low hockey IQ and you can't really teach that. I'd much rather roll the dice with kapanen who has been performing well in the A.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Interesting proposal, have always like Kapanen and his pedigree, his hockey IQ and forgive his consistency issues given his youth. Virtanen has more value though. Pass from the Leafs perspective but I'll admit it based strongly because of my bias for Kap.

Again good proposal though.

 

[Twist and Shout]

Nope. Very disappointed in Virtanen every time I've watched him lately.

 

[LV*]

Leafs fans saying "hard pass" give your heads a shake.

Virtanen sucks. Hope he can turn it around, but not really.

 

[AuraSphere]

Leafs fans saying "hard pass" give your heads a shake.

Virtanen sucks. Hope he can turn it around, but not really.

You give your head a shake. It's an opinion. If you haven't watched a single marlies game this season you have no right to judge anyone else.

Kapanen is actually playing like a blue chip prospect. Virtanen is playing like a bust.

 

[LV*]

You give your head a shake. It's an opinion. If you haven't watched a single marlies game this season you have no right to judge anyone else.

Kapanen is actually playing like a blue chip prospect. Virtanen is playing like a bust.

Do you know how to read?

I watch more Leafs/Marlies games than you btw, Don.

Ive been a Kapanen supporter since day one, where as you on the other hand, wanted to trade him last year and look at you this year lol.

 

[93LEAFS]

For a supposed "heart and soul tough player" I saw absolutely nothing from him in an incredibly chippy game against Toronto. It was literally the perfect situation for him to assert himself, you have the moral highground against a team of rookies with only one real heavyweight, and Virtanen is absolutely invisible all game.

If the physical game isn't in the debate, I don't see where he's better than Kapanen. Speed and shot are roughly equal, Kapanen is more aware defensively and doesn't take dumb penalties at bad times.

He re-injured his shoulder and hasn't been a physical force this year.

 

[clunk]

I'd do it. It would be a good trade, actually.

 

[LV*]

I'd do it. It would be a good trade, actually.

Yea for the Canucks

 

[Man Bear Pig]

No thanks. If I'm moving Kapanen, who's been unbelievable this year, it's for a defensive prospect/player around the same age preferably.

 

[Willy Styles]

I still think Virtanen will be atleast a 20 goal 40 point hard nosed winger, who can skate and shoot. Its really Virtanen's IQ and hockey sense that is holding him back. I believe if you get him with someone he really can click with (Matthews, Nylander or Marner), he might be very effective, the Leafs rookie's can literally make anyone look good. Marner has been carrying JVR, and Nylander made Colin Greening look good.

With virtanens shot, size, speed and grit something has to go terribly wrong for you not to be at least a 30 goal scorer.

 

[Knies iT]

Leafs fans saying "hard pass" give your heads a shake.

Virtanen sucks. Hope he can turn it around, but not really.

Do you know how to read?

I watch more Leafs/Marlies games than you btw, Don.

Ive been a Kapanen supporter since day one, where as you on the other hand, wanted to trade him last year and look at you this year lol.

Figure it out.

 

[LV*]

Figure it out.

What?

I was implying my fellow Leafs fans that would even consider trading Kapanen for Virtanen need to give their heads a shake. Its not that hard to understand.

 

[Pyromaniac]

Leafs fans saying "hard pass" give your heads a shake.

Virtanen sucks. Hope he can turn it around, but not really.

I thought "hard pass" meant its not close.

 

[DeltaSwede]

Another thread to give an opportunity for Leafs posters to trash the Canucks.. how original..

 

[russ4king]

How 'bout Kapanen for Lazar... Lazar has as much value as Virtanen and is a good kid that will shut up and do his job

Why not save the heartavhe of Leafs fans saying no.

Skip right to...Virtanen for Lazar. Too struggling picks that were both rushed or misdeveloped.