They didn’t lose cause of Kapanen throwing his stick.Nah Mayfield is the most valuable piece. Martin is expiring. No need for Ceci. And Kapanen throws sticks at people causing his team to lose.
Isles say no.
They didn’t lose cause of Kapanen throwing his stick.Nah Mayfield is the most valuable piece. Martin is expiring. No need for Ceci. And Kapanen throws sticks at people causing his team to lose.
Isles say no.
It's pretty hard to characterize a deal as "good" when you're being saddled with Cody Ceci. The guy is terrible and makes way too much money. Nobody wants that guy in their top six and nobody wants to pay him that salary.
Not true at all. If there was a deal between the 2 teams that made sense. I’d be all for it.
So trading a defensemen and grinder, both which your team has an abundance of, for a middle 6 20G winger doesn’t make sense?
If Kapanen wore any other jersey you’d be all for this deal. I guess we’ll have to wait a bit longer before we can get some unbiased opinions from your fan base.
No. You can never have enough defenseman. Especially on the right side. Add in the fact that Mayfield plays in the top 4 and plays tough matchups and is on a ridiculously cheap long term contract. You don’t just give that up. The islanders are deep on the wings at the NHL and prospect levels.
Kapanen is a fine middle6 winger but if the isles were to trade for a winger it would Have to be a sure fire proven sniper. That’s the only way it would make sense. That’s why they went so hard for Panarin.
Ceci “plays in the top 4” too. I don’t see mayfield carrying a 2nd pairing line by himself, but you obviously know your team better than i do.
But i would love to hear why you feel the isles are deep at W at the NHL level, because that’s the position i assumed was your biggest weakness. Which of your wingers are better than Kapanen, is it just Bailey? I’d take Kap over Lee/Eberle when you factor in contracts. Regardless I’d say he would be your 4th best nhl winger right now, which is a bigger hole to fill than mayfield who can easily be replaced by someone like Dobson sooner than later.
There’s zero chance you are getting a 1st line sniper for mayfield. Even a 2nd line seems extremely doubtful. I am very curious to hear who you think you can land with Mayfield, i had no idea he was good enough to return a proven sniper which are worth their weight in gold.
Isles say no because Kapanen is dumb as a stump and Lou knows it.Nah Mayfield is the most valuable piece. Martin is expiring. No need for Ceci. And Kapanen throws sticks at people causing his team to lose.
Isles say no.
Leafs are giving up the two best players in the deal
I never said he had a better contract. I said he's a better player. At the very least it's debatable. Mayfield hasn't touched top 4 minutes in his career, so you can't really prove he's better than Ceci, who has already looked very good playing with a competent defense partner this season. (it would be like saying Casey Cizikas is a better center than Nolan Patrick because Cizikas was one of the best fourth line centers and Patrick was one of the worst top six centers last year)Ceci is not a better defenseman than Mayfield. Couple that with him being UFA at 4.5 a season while Mayfield's under team control for under 1.5m makes this an outlandish statement.
It's like saying Kapanen>>>>>>>>>>>Martin when it's really Kapanen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Martin
I never said he had a better contract. I said he's a better player. At the very least it's debatable. Mayfield hasn't touched top 4 minutes in his career, so you can't really prove he's better than Ceci, who has already looked very good playing with a competent defense partner this season. (it would be like saying Casey Cizikas is a better center than Nolan Patrick because Cizikas was one of the best fourth line centers and Patrick was one of the worst top six centers last year)
Saddled? He’s a rental signed for one year, which means you can probably trade him at the deadline for a decent pick, worst case you just let him walk. Are you just bringing up meaningless points to try and deflect away from the fact that Kapanen is more valuable than mayfield/Martin and fills a much bigger hole in your lineup than what either mayfield/Martin brings?
If you don’t feel Kapanen is easily the best player in this deal then that just further proves my point. Isles fans despised the Leafs well before they lost their franchise player, so I’m not surprised that there are actually Isles fans trying to decline this trade as if they weren’t receiving enough value or something nonsensical along those lines.