Kane with sports hernia - had it all year

[Messrules11]

Not sure why ‘fans’ are running Kane, I commend him for playing through injury.
I like tough honest players, some here deserve the McLeod’s I guess

 

[guymez]

You think Kane would refuse to to on LTIR to get 100% recovered for the good of himself and the team, plus assist in the team adding a 5M player at the deadline for a better chance at the cup?

Probably should dump him if he's that dumb. But instead I think it's our management that needs to be launched into the sun. I doubt the idea even crossed the orgs mind. Just left him to struggle and be frustrated all year, and once again we go into playoffs with a busted Kane that we had all the time in the world to get healthy, with the added benefit we could have used his cap hit to add a player.

I think part of what plays into this is that whenever a player goes on LTIR he risks losing his spot in the lineup. To my understanding its the type of injury many players have played through as well.

Kane is in the fading years of his career so I also wouldnt discount the arrival of Holloway either.
He is a younger much faster version of Kane in a lot of respects and he is also much cheaper.
Both players dont PK either which also makes things easier in terms of replacing one for the other.
Of course Holloway isnt a scorer like Kane just yet but he is an intriguing player.

I think that there may also be a pride element to this as well. Hockey players play through injury.
Its what they do more often than not.
Unless of course you play for Vegas.

 

[snipes]

LTIRing him could have let us pick a good player and had him healthy for game 1.

Vegas without question would have done just that

 

[GOilers88]

I'd say it's very likely cheating when the same player magically has an injury every Feb and comes back perfectly for game 1 3 years in a row. Just the league is too hands off to do anything about it.

If Kane got a surgery in 2023 and we kept him out a little longer than needed (like Kuch few years ago) to fully use his LTIR, it's a little bit of scamming too, but at least the injury was legit. Gray areas that, yes, all teams can play in. Vegas seems to think they can be far more bold because of some favoritism I guess, but the Oilers wouldn't have needed to be nearly as bold this year, or even last with Kane. We just don't have the will to do what it takes is all.

Kane's injury is no more, and likely less legit than any injury Mark Stone has suffered the last two seasons, regardless of him coming back for playoffs.

 

[Fourier]

Pretty sure to play NHL hockey a hernia surgery recovery is 2-3 months. Fortunately we knew about it near the start of the season and have lots of time to get Kane to 100% before playoffs. And he can have minor set backs as needed like Kuch/Stone to stay practicing in full contact up until game 1 of the playoffs.

Oh wait...

If it needed surgery this would be the case. But you can't force guy to have surgery just because you want to use LTIR. It's a playable injury. The evidence of this is that he has been playing and has scored 24 goals.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Probably was Kane himself deciding to make it known, as he was sick of reporters asking questions. I'm very doubtful the organization wanted the information out.



It isn't almost healed if you watch Kane's presser. He says himself that he "isn't sure" whether he is playing tomorrow. That is quite likely just "playoff talk", and I agree that he's likely playing tomorrow, but there is obviously something rather large wrong.

Still have no idea why they didn't get a surgery back in early January, once it was clear we were going to make the playoffs again.

You also wondered if McDavid would play again this year.

Your reading between the lines is usually completely wrong.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I'm not gonna shit on Kane. Guy's a warrior and a gamer until he is dead and buried. Gets my benefit of the doubt. Not sure there's any great secrets at this point of the season. Doesn't say anything the questions turn to dumbness about why he would be starting 4th line. Is there issue with the coach and or his teammates. Lots of wasted energy already on this junk.

Kane knows one direction. Straight forward, no retreat. Probably some pride involved to disclose he's not physically at his best. But let's wait until puck drops on a hard, grinding series to see what this guy brings.

 

[CupofOil]

What does Kane have to gain by saying this now, right before the playoffs? This is something players usually say after the season is over if at all, not right before a playoff run. Did Draisaitl and Nurse talk about their injuries before the playoffs 2 years ago, Ceci about his core injury last year etc.?

It's almost as if he's mentioning this injury in public on purpose because he's unhappy with how the organization is handling it perhaps or is trying to say to people (fans, media etc.) "this is why I have been struggling". Seems selfish to mention this now or, as I said before, maybe this is his way of sending a message to the organization.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Missed opportunity to better the team and get Kane back close to 100% as well as giving an opportunity to the likes of Holloway and Lavoie.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

What does Kane have to gain by saying this now, right before the playoffs? This is something players usually say after the season is over if at all, not right before a playoff run. Did Draisaitl and Nurse talk about their injuries before the playoffs 2 years ago, Ceci about his core injury last year etc.?

It's almost as if he's mentioning this injury in public on purpose because he's unhappy with how the organization is handling it perhaps or is trying to say to people (fans, media etc.) "this is why I have been struggling". Seems selfish to mention this now.

Agreed, players will be targeting the areas that it could be and we are a toothless team without him in the lineup.

 

[CupofOil]

Agreed, players will be targeting the areas that it could be and we are a toothless team without him in the lineup.

Yeah that too. Mentioning his injury is sort of giving a gameplan to the Kings who plays chippy as hell as is, I bet Doughty is taking notes. I just don't see the point of this from his perspective.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I’m kind of wondering why he let that cat out of the bag now instead of after their season is done (in June if things go right).

 

[sepHF]

Why would he announce this?? Makes no sense

I can’t see the team telling him to.. why would he leak this?

Just play Holloway then

 

[McFlyingV]

I think it becomes easier to get Kane to buy in on playing 4th line for load management given the injury which is probably for the best with the way the Holloway-McLeod-Perry line has looked. If he's able to play I like the idea of the Kane-Carrick-Brown/Janmark on the 4th line. Give them 8-10 minutes to forecheck hard and throw pucks on net to create chaos. A line like that could score some big goals off bad angle rebound shots or deflected/rebound point shots.

I like when our 4th line just throws pucks on nets and tries to create chaos.

 

[Messrules11]

Seems Tocchet gets it, very similar style to Kane.
This time of year you have to crave pain. Kane can take care of himself just fine, no King is gonna run his show

 

[Stud Muffin]

Feel like this is a lot of gamesmanship from Kane, he wants the target on his back. The Bear wants to be poked.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Not sure why ‘fans’ are running Kane, I commend him for playing through injury.
I like tough honest players, some here deserve the McLeod’s I guess

Because he should have had the operation or recuperation time.

Its a recognition from some here that despite him soldiering on Kane on more than a few nights was the worst Oilers on ice and getting next to nothing done the last 2mths. He had one impactful game in that time. Soldiering on in regular season is no great shakes when he could have been ready to start in playoffs. The ONLY thing that matters is playoffs. Now hes f***ed over. Didn't get the surgery. I recall Klefbom f***ing up like this too soldiering on instead of opting for surgeries earlier.

 

[brentashton]

Yeah that too. Mentioning his injury is sort of giving a gameplan to the Kings who plays chippy as hell as is, I bet Doughty is taking notes. I just don't see the point of this from his perspective.

This. Even if it were an injury that they can’t make worse, all he did was say hey look at me I’m not at 100% capacity. LAK will target him all day.

Idiot.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I think it becomes easier to get Kane to buy in on playing 4th line for load management given the injury which is probably for the best with the way the Holloway-McLeod-Perry line has looked. If he's able to play I like the idea of the Kane-Carrick-Brown/Janmark on the 4th line. Give them 8-10 minutes to forecheck hard and throw pucks on net to create chaos. A line like that could score some big goals off bad angle rebound shots or deflected/rebound point shots.

I like when our 4th line just throws pucks on nets and tries to create chaos.

At no point has Kane looked to have accepted a role in bottomsix. Verbally he's been against it multiple times. Even in this presser he seems not thrilled about prospects and was giving some strange answers. Its odd that the only thing Kane was clear on was the one thing he shouldn't be, the Injury. He's his own worst enemy. Wait, I forgot Mrs Ex Kane might be that.

This. Even if it were an injury that they can’t make worse, all he did was say hey look at me I’m not at 100% capacity. LAK will target him all day.

Idiot.

Just when I thought saying dumb would've been going too far...

Feel like this is a lot of gamesmanship from Kane, he wants the target on his back. The Bear wants to be poked.

Nobody targets anybody on a 4th line. Unfortunately Kane has been so off for a long while now that he's become the player that the opponent wants out on the ice. Like he said about Lucic. tbh Kane is looking more like that guy the last half of the season.

 

[brentashton]

At no point has Kane looked to have accepted a role in bottomsix. Verbally he's been against it multiple times. Even in this presser he seems not thrilled about prospects and was giving some strange answers. Its odd that the only thing Kane was clear on was the one thing he shouldn't be, the Injury. He's his own worst enemy. Wait, I forgot Mrs Ex Kane might be that.


Just when I thought saying dumb would've been going too far...

Hmmm, now I wonder who you are calling dumb?!?!?

 

[McFlyingV]

At no point has Kane looked to have accepted a role in bottomsix. Verbally he's been against it multiple times. Even in this presser he seems not thrilled about prospects and was giving some strange answers. Its odd that the only thing Kane was clear on was the one thing he shouldn't be, the Injury. He's his own worst enemy. Wait, I forgot Mrs Ex Kane might be that.


Just when I thought saying dumb would've been going too far...


Nobody targets anybody on a 4th line. Unfortunately Kane has been so off for a long while now that he's become the player that the opponent wants out on the ice. Like he said about Lucic. tbh Kane is looking more like that guy the last half of the season.

Regardless I'm not really worried. He had a few good games the couple weeks before sitting out the last week of the season and he did it from the bottom 6. This team is at its best if both Holloway and Kane are playing in the bottom 6 so I hope he's able to play.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Hmmm, now I wonder who you are calling dumb?!?!?

lol. Kane. Sorry about the wording or parsing being unclear. hehe

 

[McDNicks17]

Edmonton media: "He's just a little bitch that sucks. He isn't injured."

Kane: "I'm injured"

Edmonton media: "Oh my god, why would he say he's injured?"

 

[Messrules11]

Because he should have had the operation or recuperation time.

Its a recognition from some here that despite him soldiering on Kane on more than a few nights was the worst Oilers on ice and getting next to nothing done the last 2mths. He had one impactful game in that time. Soldiering on in regular season is no great shakes when he could have been ready to start in playoffs. The ONLY thing that matters is playoffs. Now hes f***ed over. Didn't get the surgery. I recall Klefbom f***ing up like this too soldiering on instead of opting for surgeries earlier.

Kane has no comparison to Klefbom whatsoever, Klef was career ending.
Kane was 4th in goals this year as well, you want to compare 2 month stretches of ghost play look at RNH.
I know they’re your darlings but no King will run Kane’s show, not one.

 

[McDrai]

This org is never gonna be serious about winning. This was a layup to LTIR and add at the deadline. Not only could Kane be back for game 1 at 100% but we could have added an impact player.

Yep. Had the same thoughts. Sports Hernias are no joke as well. Would have freed up a lot more room at the deadline if we had LTIR’d Kane.