Value of: Kane to Boston

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Why would a 40 point winger who will be in his thirties by the time Chicago is any good be a primary target for them in a Kane trade?
Do you fans want lottery picks for the next 10 years? Tell your GM/owner to stop screwing fans and remember the days you would have 5 thousand people in the stands

That wasn't so long ago. Sucking and praying to hit in the draft is for losers
 

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Do you fans want lottery picks for the next 10 years? Tell your GM/owner to stop screwing fans and remember the days you would have 5 thousand people in the stands

That wasn't so long ago. Sucking and praying to hit in the draft is for losers
Right, trading Kane for a 40-point winger is what will turn us into winners. Keep dreaming.
 

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Again, if we are giving up a ton of assets; I'd rather it be a long term solution at a position we'll need help.

Kane is a last ditch effort that could, but very well may not work out.

Pittsburgh got several years out of Kessel; I think we'd be lucky to get more than half a season out of Kane.

If Kane was a few years younger and had more years on his contract, would be a better option, but draining an already weak prospect pool and picks on a UFA to be in a position that we are ALREADY trying to re-sign our top player at, just isn't the direction I'd invest in.
If Kane weren't a pending UFA though it would probably be a moot point because I don't think Boston would have the movable assets to get him.

Since it's likely the end of the road for Bergeron and Krejci this season, doesn't it make sense for Boston to kinda go all in one more time before kinda retooling?
 

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I’d love to unload some cap and take Kane back at 50%

Hmm Reilly, Smith 1st and probably still a prospect I’d even entertain DeBrusk in these options for the “Last Dance“ people mention Bruins are on..

Hawks can trade them all off at the Deadline if they choose too for picks
 

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It would have to include Lysell or Lohrei + this years 1st. Boston's prospect depth past that is pretty brutal so I doubt there is much interest outside of those 2 prospects
And have the season is over and you cannot resign what do you have , plus you two centers are gone ? I guess that would be a rebuild ,with two top prospects gone and no first pick..............I easily pass , and go take a nap and dream or fantasize what it would be like to have him playing with this team..........

I’d love to unload some cap and take Kane back at 50%

Hmm Reilly, Smith 1st and probably still a prospect I’d even entertain DeBrusk in these options for the “Last Dance“ people mention Bruins are on..

Hawks can trade them all off at the Deadline if they choose too for picks
If you are going to move DeBrusk that is for the offseason to get a center..........
 
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I’d love to unload some cap and take Kane back at 50%

Hmm Reilly, Smith 1st and probably still a prospect I’d even entertain DeBrusk in these options for the “Last Dance“ people mention Bruins are on..

Hawks can trade them all off at the Deadline if they choose too for picks

Unless Kane tells Chicago the only place he'd accept a trade to is Boston... There's absolutely no chance that offer gets it done. Even if Kane did that, I'd bet Chicago would keep Kane before trading him for that package of garbage.

Reilly and Smith are cap dumps with negative value. So literally the only piece of value in the deal is a very late 1st round pick. Chicago easily passes and any other team Kane is willing to be traded to easily beats that deal.
 

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Unless Kane tells Chicago the only place he'd accept a trade to is Boston... There's absolutely no chance that offer gets it done. Even if Kane did that, I'd bet Chicago would keep Kane before trading him for that package of garbage.

Reilly and Smith are cap dumps with negative value. So literally the only piece of value in the deal is a very late 1st round pick. Chicago easily passes and any other team Kane is willing to be traded to easily beats that deal.
I’d obviously be assuming he’d want Boston for a run at the cup not saying it’s the only place but I mentioned a prospect as well I even said DeBrusk could be involved Smith is not negative value they could easily flip at deadline so let’s not blow that horn and if you honestly can say Hawks would rather get nothing then this package when they could resign him after in the offseason you’re not a good businessman.

Is there better deals sure there always could be
 
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And have the season is over and you cannot resign what do you have , plus you two centers are gone ? I guess that would be a rebuild ,with two top prospects gone and no first pick..............I easily pass , and go take a nap and dream or fantasize what it would be like to have him playing with this team..........


If you are going to move DeBrusk that is for the offseason to get a center..........

I think it’s a given we’re gonna need a center sometime but it is unknown when. Bergy and Krech could still return Don even mentioned Zacha hopefully filling that roll I’m not sure what UFA options are haven’t looked that far ahead and trading for a center we could even entertain Carlo possibility the way Clifton has been playing.
 
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I’d obviously be assuming he’d want Boston for a run at the cup not saying it’s the only place but I mentioned a prospect as well I even said DeBrusk could be involved Smith is not negative value they could easily flip at deadline so let’s not blow that horn and if you honestly can say Hawks would rather get nothing then this package when they could resign him after in the offseason you’re not a good businessman.

Is there better deals sure there always could be
If they are all flipable flip them and send Chicago something they actually want.
 

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If they are all flipable flip them and send Chicago something they actually want.
Eh ? Kinda a weird reply if they want to maximize probably best to wait until deadline to flip if this trade was to happen say now and who’s to say they wouldn’t keep DeBrusk if he was part of it. I‘m not pretending I know exactly what they want I’m assuming younger players, prospects or picks.

Like why would we trade DeBrusk elsewhere if we aren’t guaranteed we’d get a better player for a playoff push ? If you’re referring to Smith your gonna get more teams with space at deadline that could use a 15g grinder vs teams now trying to take advantage of each other with the tight cap crunch expecting something for free or calling it a cap dump when that player does have value but cap space makes it tricky.
 
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It's so cute that people don't think Kane is going to choose a team and only go to that team. Hawks aren't getting a haul here. It won't be Boston, so that's fine. Patrick Kane is not letting Chicago's GM decide where to send him, cmon guys. He's saying "I want to go to NYC or I'm staying." It's Patrick Kane.
 

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A player of Kane's caliber overrides any 'need'. However, not needing the skill does make it more likely they won't get into a bidding war for him.

Marchand Bergeron Kane
Hall Krejci Pasta
DeBrusk Coyle Zacha

That's a pretty insane top 9 (assuming none of those guys go back in the deal). But, Bergeron, Kane, Krejci and Pasta all are UFAs... so its clearly a one shot. This season really is already a one shot for the Bruins before a retool, but if they are wise, they would be looking to spend any futures on the center position and move Coyle to RW for a season to get ahead on the coming retool and try to seduce Pasta into staying by giving him a top 6 center to work with.

Marchand Bergeron DeBrusk
Hall Krejci Pasta
Zacha ??? Coyle

That sets them up better for the future.
 
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Marchand Bergeron Kane
Hall Krejci Pasta
DeBrusk Coyle Zacha

That's a pretty insane top 9 (assuming none of those guys go back in the deal). But, Bergeron, Kane, Krejci and Pasta all are UFAs... so its clearly a one shot. This season really is already a one shot for the Bruins before a retool, but if they are wise, they would be looking to spend any futures on the center position and move Coyle to RW for a season to get ahead on the coming retool and try to seduce Pasta into staying by giving him a top 6 center to work with.

Marchand Bergeron DeBrusk
Hall Krejci Pasta
Zacha ??? Coyle

That sets them up better for the future.
Agreed, it is a situation where I think a GM has to at least kick the tires and see what they can come up with that works, however, the B's are in no position to sell the farm for a one year wonder at this point. I think that a lot of it will depend on if Krejci or Bergeron have even considered retirement (I'm unfortunately not privvy to whether or not that's even been discussed with media there).

The Bruins are in a weird situation where they are one player away from being at the absolute pinnacle of the east (not just referring to standings), and about one season away from needing to retool everything.

Could absolutely see them kicking the tires on a guy like O'Reilly if the Blues are out of a playoff position at the deadline.
 

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