Value of: K'andre Miller

[Lindberg Cheese]

lol. What the hell is this? When do ten player trades happen between two teams? Aside from that, no interest at all from this Ducks fan.

Feel that tug on your ass? That’s you getting caught in the Bern Vortex

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Feel that tug on your ass? That’s you getting caught in the Bern Vortex

Funny thing is that he will defend it til the end of time.

 

[jd22]

Do the rangers have any interest in Aatu Raty as a probable 3c as centerpiece? Bits have to be added of course, perhaps a b level D prospect also? Sawyer Mynio?

Let me know if I'm way off base. Miller's next contract makes me a bit leery.

 

[Stealth JD]

Give you back Buchnevich. Or Neighbors.

Or Buchnevich & Neighbors for K'Andre and Kaako.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Just a season or so ago, Ranger fans were wondering if Miller would get 8x8 or more on his new deal. What happened?

Who the hell thought this?

 

[Kocur Dill]

Part of the issue with K'Andre is that compromise the Rangers made out of necessity, to keep his cap him down a bit on that "bridge deal"...they were always borrowing on future credit and going to have to pay big on that next deal. Even if he doesn't have a tremendous season...i still think something around the Sanheim deal is the starting point for his next contract ask. Being an older comp signed awhile ago under a different cap environment...it wouldn't surprise me to even have him come in with the Hanifin deal as an asking price. Not sure he'll get it...but whatever you think of him as an toolsy and talented but definitely imperfect player, $6.25M+ seems very much plausible, and anywhere up to $7M on a long-term deal.


So that puts a damper on his "value" in trade i think. It also just really limits the prospective "market" of teams that can, or would want to afford a guy like him at that price as part of their "core" defence group.

Like, i'd certainly have interest in K'Andre as a player from a Vancouver perspective, but i don't think his likely salary demands beyond this year are something that would fit very well into the Canucks cap structure and current salary commitments. I think that'd be a bit of a sticking point with quite a few teams that might otherwise be interested.

I think bubble or lower teams that have a hard time attracting UFA's would value him greatly, even at those numbers.

Which is good for NYR as the picks are higher per rd, for example a high 2nd isnt to far off from a low 1st, and those teams should have decent prospects to pick from as well.

But thats a, Rangers are out of it TDL move, or a summer draft day move.

It would help us more to find a player for player swap, but then again, our cupboard is bare from Drurys spending, this team is far from 1 player making a difference, and we have a HUGE damned if you do - damned if you dont decision to make on Shesterkin.

If Im Dolan, im considering if Drury survives this season and possibly selling off what i can and start another rebuild with Lafrenierre, Fox, Schneider, Kakko, and Trochek as the leadership core and take the best deals as they come for everyone else. Maybe even trade for Blackwood and run him with Quick and bounce Shesterkin for as much as humanly possible.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

lol. What the hell is this? When do ten player trades happen between two teams? Aside from that, no interest at all from this Ducks fan.

Bern.

 

[bernmeister]

Miller & Kakko will most likely be used for a bigger defensive upgrade depending on who's made available in the next year or two. Rangers have one of the best RW prospects in the NHL, it's time to cut some of the fat off the team.

it is "time to cut some ... fat"
but KK is not fat
and
KAM should not be baby thrown out w/bathwater

 

[rt]

Nope. 100% changed my tune on this player. I was singing his praises for a while now. I always wanted to see a more physical version of him, but its very rare for a player to develop those attributes. The rest of it i thought was enough for him to be a really good top 4 guy.

What happened? Curious how you would describe the timeline of his decline.

 

[TGWL]

What happened? Curious how you would describe the timeline of his decline.

Trouba. And anybody who hurts his feelings by looking at him.

In all seriousness, I don't pretend to know what he goes through. He had to step away last season for mental health. His play is also much better when paired with Fox over Trouba, which everybody should have predicted. Expected goals % went from like 30% with Trouba to more than double with Fox.

I wouldn't say Miller makes one of the most mistakes through-out the entire league, but the issue is that when he makes a mistake you end up noticing it on the score board. A lot of players can get away with making mistakes because it's less noticeable than a 45 second scramble in your own end or a goal against. Give aways are a poorly tracked stat but for those that do care he's one of the lowest on the time. It's just that the giveaways, the pinching, and the brain fart moments lead to something that stands out when it's done.

Fans want him to be what he's not. A lot of us hoped he developed a mean streak. It's never happened and it never will. He's just not that type of player.