Prospect Info: K'Andre Miller (D) - Part IV

[Rempe73]

This is a really bad way to look at a draft. There were valid reasons why 20-ish other teams passed on him on draft day. There were question marks that on the day made sense.

Yea I know, like how raw he was and that it was a deep draft. That’s why I said looking back. But even back then I thought he was a steal. He seemed like the type of player that GMs love.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

First game I thought he was pretty bad (as most of the team, but he was super nervous). This game was MUCH better. First period he was a little timid again but as the game went on you could really see him getting more confidence.

Some of his passes have been god awful, if I have to nitpick one thing it would be that, but again it's comes with the nerves. I'm excited to see how he looks by the end of the season..

Johnson should never be playing more than him in a game..

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

doesn't really look good on the puck but his insane reach was very useful breaking up plays tonight

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He'll be our 2nd best defenseman by the beginning of next season only because God wears 23.

 

[JohnC]

Poster PB is going to look like a doofus on this one.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yea I know, like how raw he was and that it was a deep draft. That’s why I said looking back. But even back then I thought he was a steal. He seemed like the type of player that GMs love.

I was in the building in Dallas and when the Rangers traded up, everyone had a feeling it was for a defenseman because they leapfrogged Anaheim, a team known for being good at drafting defenseman. Initially I thought it'd be Sandin but Miller being the pick was exciting.

 

[darko]

Poster PB is going to look like a doofus on this one.

What did he say?

 

[Elliman]

The kid is a cornerstone.

 

[Ola]

The kid is a cornerstone.

Really liked his game yesterday.

One thing, it’s important to remember that in terms of evening out your game, learning all this-might-work-elsewhere-but-not-in-the-NHL-stuff, just takes time.

Miller is still really young. He is big and hence not super mobile (see: law of physics). My point is just, be prepared for it, he will cost us goals against. He will end up in embarrassing spots. And it will get a lot better with time if we give it to him.

 

[Priorae]

He’s gonna make a lot of stupid plays because he’s still really uncertain with the puck. But if he can be paired with a puck mover they’ll be in a good place.

Probably no one benefitted from a blowout more than Miller. Got to play a lot in that 3rd period.

 

[Vitto79]

He’s gonna make a lot of stupid plays because he’s still really uncertain with the puck. But if he can be paired with a puck mover they’ll be in a good place.

Probably no one benefitted from a blowout more than Miller. Got to play a lot in that 3rd period.

Yea honestly just keep throwing him out there for experience and I’m not upset if he eventually gets some AHL time. He’s gonna be good just get him minutes somewhere All year

 

[Raspewtin]

KAM chewed up and spit out rushes by some of the Isles' best forwards all game. Love it.

 

[bl02]

Look all we have to do is ask the Ducks which defenseman they like before every draft and we good.
I know he is gonna have his up and downs but the attitude and skill is there. This kid can be a tremendous top 4 dman with size.

 

[Rongomania]

Really liked his game yesterday.

One thing, it’s important to remember that in terms of evening out your game, learning all this-might-work-elsewhere-but-not-in-the-NHL-stuff, just takes time.

Miller is still really young. He is big and hence not super mobile (see: law of physics). My point is just, be prepared for it, he will cost us goals against. He will end up in embarrassing spots. And it will get a lot better with time if we give it to him.

Wasn't there this 'Chara' guy where I'm sure people said the same thing and he was traded multiple times as a young man..

hope we hang onto him as I see him going down a similar path if all breaks right.

love his game so far for a rook D

 

[Ola]

Wasn't there this 'Chara' guy where I'm sure people said the same thing and he was traded multiple times as a young man..

hope we hang onto him as I see him going down a similar path if all breaks right.

love his game so far for a rook D

Yup, I remember doing a breakdown once, I am sure it was like 10-15 years ago. And things have changed since, but at one point it was ridiculous. Roughly like 12 of the 15 top Ds in the league had taken huuuuge steps after they were 26-27 y/o. And many had even gone from being marginal NHLers at like 25 to being top guys post 27-28 y/o. If I remember correctly guys like McCabe and Souray (top of the table in D scoring), guys like Dan Boyle and Rafalski that were talented but that didn't breakout before late 20s, a euro like Vishnovsky, Chara and so forth populated that summery.

Someone mentioned it in a reply to me recently, that this isn't really the case anymore, and that sounds plausible from just observations that I've made. More and more young Ds are getting big roles early. But at the same time, its a long road. Being able to just hit the ice and score a ton and be hot for a couple of seasons is something else than becoming that top guy that really changes the outlook of the play when he hit the ice. Q Hughes, Makar and co. aren't there yet.

My point is just, for Miller the time frame shouldn't be for him to get warm in his cloaths by this time next season. Its 4-5 years down the road.

 

[Rongomania]

Yup, I remember doing a breakdown once, I am sure it was like 10-15 years ago. And things have changed since, but at one point it was ridiculous. Roughly like 12 of the 15 top Ds in the league had taken huuuuge steps after they were 26-27 y/o. And many had even gone from being marginal NHLers at like 25 to being top guys post 27-28 y/o. If I remember correctly guys like McCabe and Souray (top of the table in D scoring), guys like Dan Boyle and Rafalski that were talented but that didn't breakout before late 20s, a euro like Vishnovsky, Chara and so forth populated that summery.

Someone mentioned it in a reply to me recently, that this isn't really the case anymore, and that sounds plausible from just observations that I've made. More and more young Ds are getting big roles early. But at the same time, its a long road. Being able to just hit the ice and score a ton and be hot for a couple of seasons is something else than becoming that top guy that really changes the outlook of the play when he hit the ice. Q Hughes, Makar and co. aren't there yet.

My point is just, for Miller the time frame shouldn't be for him to get warm in his cloaths by this time next season. Its 4-5 years down the road.

Great post O.

and the great part about the current make up of this team, Miller doesn't have to be relied upon to pile up points and can focus on rounding out that 'complete game'.

I feel a lot of teams don't have that luxury of points flowing from the back end, and that has got to come into play when teams sour on young D's fast. They're not piling up points to the teams liking.

We have time and room for this kid to grow. This, what we're currently in, is a waiting game for sure. Kid is packed with potential though. Can't believe that was only his second game last night, looked calm in some rough spots.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

He has been getting progressively better since his 3rd shift of the game one. I am SO high on him as a prospect.

I mean, he looked like he did last night, and he's still kinda coltish. Just imagine what he'll look and play like in 3 years...

 

[Trxjw]

Last night Miller showed a lot of the things that make him such an exciting prospect. Still a few hiccups but started playing within his means and really settled in as the night went on. Great way to build confidence.

The one glaring issue is his tendency to be ultra aggressive in the opposing side of the neutral zone. Really needs to work on that. Let the attack come to him and close it off at the blue line. Jumping up too early led to a handful of odd-man rushes against last night. Thankfully nothing particularly dangerous.

 

[True Blue]

He has been getting progressively better since his 3rd shift of the game one. I am SO high on him as a prospect.

I mean, he looked like he did last night, and he's still kinda coltish. Just imagine what he'll look and play like in 3 years...

That’s the thing. He is not even close to being physically mature yet.

Expect up and downs. Lots of them. He has a lot of learning to do. But his God given physical abilities? Oh, my. Unbelievable athlete

 

[pld459666]

What stands out for me, and its just 2 games in, is that he didn't have a great 1st game and aside from the brutal turnover behind the net, he was poised enough to come back k and have what I thought was a very strong game.

Can't wait until this kid rounds out completely.

Gonna be fun to watch his development over the next 3-4 years

 

[NYRKing]

So happy for him. Great bounce back. I would have sat him after game 1, so kudos to Quinn as well.

 

[bobbop]

I was in the building in Dallas and when the Rangers traded up, everyone had a feeling it was for a defenseman because they leapfrogged Anaheim, a team known for being good at drafting defenseman. Initially I thought it'd be Sandin but Miller being the pick was exciting.

If I remember right, we had sources that all three teams between Ottawa and the Rangers were prepared to pick Miller. I know I had information on Minnesota. Miller was their guy.

Smart trade up. Great future. Only 20!

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If I remember right, we had sources that all three teams between Ottawa and the Rangers were prepared to pick Miller. I know I had information on Minnesota. Miller was their guy.

Smart trade up. Great future. Only 20!

Turns 21 in 4 days

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Really liked his game yesterday.

One thing, it’s important to remember that in terms of evening out your game, learning all this-might-work-elsewhere-but-not-in-the-NHL-stuff, just takes time.

Miller is still really young. He is big and hence not super mobile (see: law of physics). My point is just, be prepared for it, he will cost us goals against. He will end up in embarrassing spots. And it will get a lot better with time if we give it to him.

Just remember you are asking this board to have patience with the rookie. Good luck with that. The next time he makes a mistake that leads to a goal people will be calling him a bust. This kid is the real deal, he just needs the minutes.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Even though he’s not been terrible and was actually pretty good yesterday he seems like an ideal send-down candidate if the AHL ever starts up again . He can really work on his game there. He looks raw af