Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

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Waking up after a long night. Still just as angry. Kakko will never suit up for this team again and it’s a travesty. Gallant should be fired.
 
The question. Whom/what do you want for Kakko from Columbus? Except Jenner, Laine, Sillinger, Johnson, Werenski and Boqvist.
 
The question. Whom/what do you want for Kakko from Columbus? Except Jenner, Laine, Sillinger, Johnson, Werenski and Boqvist.

Ideally, I would say it would have to be something around Kakko for either of Sillinger or Johnson given the real NYR need for centers (and cap flexibility), but you say those guys are off the table. I think it would be tough to make a deal work in this case.

Not saying I would do it, but something built around Roslovic could be a possibility. What would lessen Roslovic's value in a trade to NYR is the Rangers lack of cap flexibility and the loss of ELC years if trading Kakko. NHL players with ELCs and team control might even be important to the Rangers roster than centers right now.

Add in that Kakko's value is probably the lowest it has been, and it just makes it a bad time to move him.
 
Ideally, I would say it would have to be something around Kakko for either of Sillinger or Johnson given the real NYR need for centers (and cap flexibility), but you say those guys are off the table. I think it would be tough to make a deal work in this case.

Not saying I would do it, but something built around Roslovic could be a possibility. What would lessen Roslovic's value in a trade to NYR is the Rangers lack of cap flexibility and the loss of ELC years if trading Kakko. NHL players with ELCs and team control might even be important to the Rangers roster than centers right now.

Add in that Kakko's value is probably the lowest it has been, and it just makes it a bad time to move him.
Rangers would only get those players over the dead bodies of Jarmo Kekalainen and John Davidson.😎

Roslovic has improved a lot. After a horrible game in Calgary, where he was the Flames sixth man, he was a completely different player. The most important thing was that Larsen tried to help him so he had him play PK. In addition, after the injury to Jenner, he moved to the first line to join Laine and Nyquist. He's been a different player ever since. Too bad he had trouble playing without the puck early in the season, that's why he played less. But the coaches worked with him on that.

As for Kakko. You're probably right. For us after last season just lazy not wanting to trade Laine. Now he's a key player. But in CBJ Torts was replaced by Larsen who changed our style, gave more space to the forwards, offense in all and young players are not HS anymore after the first bad games (although defense was terrible 😎). The players love him.
 
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There is not a coach who has ever lived that some here wouldn't demand be fired because some fans believe that the only one deemed worthy to be the coach would be themselves.
Its funny how the same neophytes on this board always know better than every coach we have ever had the last 10 years. Wonder why they don't go win the cup with all their arm chair expertise.
 
what would he have to do over the summer to become a better player?
Score more than once every 5-10 games.
I made a mistake, I trusted the word of my friend who said Vince mercagliano said it and I didn’t read the post myself he confused kakko and GG being frustrated with the line . That’s on me for posting without doing my own homework. It wasn’t discipline, kakko shouldn’t have been benched for hunt who was invisible the entire game. absolutely inexcusable move by GG
Who was visible, in a good way, that game, besides Shesterkin?

Its funny how the same neophytes on this board always know better than every coach we have ever had the last 10 years. Wonder why they don't go win the cup with all their arm chair expertise.
Because they probably don't do much of anything except complain about others.
 
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Score more than once every 5-10 games.

Who was visible, in a good way, that game, besides Shesterkin?


Because they probably don't do much of anything except complain about others.

Oh, he will figure this out, he's 21. It would be great if this is the big turning point this kid needs.

Really just hope it's with our team. We are much more dangerous with a progressing Kakko.
 
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Some of this hate is very off-putting
Where is it coming from??
GG benches him and u turn on him
He wasnt awful these POs
Some of u act like u gotta have the coach's back.
He was the worse player on our BEST most CONSISTENT line.
Certainly he didnt earn all this hate.
Hate Pan, tru, stro, roon if u really want to hate someone for their PO performance
Hate fox, miller, kreid, vat, copp, schneid, goody, reaves for their inconsistency
The kid line was good and consistent and showed promise of a future
GG killed that dream in one game
The biggest game this season
I dont understand how anyone comes away with the notion kakko was one of our worse players in these POs and must go.
I wish we lost in game 7 against the canes. We all be talking about how the kid line will dominate for the next 8 years.
Now, despite the kid line still being good against TB we r talking about kk being gone.
Having a line with 3 home grown players is just a pipe dream now
 
The question. Whom/what do you want for Kakko from Columbus? Except Jenner, Laine, Sillinger, Johnson, Werenski and Boqvist.
I’m sorry but Columbus to offer something good. Taking all the good assets off the table is not how you trade for Kakko
 
Oh, he will figure this out, he's 21. It would be great if this is the big turning point this kid needs.

Really just hope it's with our team. We are much more dangerous with a progressing Kakko.
Of course that's true but you can be fairly certain that Kakko wasn't sat because of on-ice performance. I've never seen Gallant livid about any question. Something big happened.
 
Of course that's true but you can be fairly certain that Kakko wasn't sat because of on-ice performance. I've never seen Gallant livid about any question. Something big happened.

Absolutely. Though Laf got his points benefitting from Kakkos strong play and the kid looked as snakebit as Rick Nash in '14.

I do agree something went down. I also know the feeling of when I am positively wrong about a choice, it gets exposed, then someone presses me about it. Gallant also had big shades of that. Gallant is a great coach, I firmly believe that was the wrong move, we did not look even close to one bit better without Kakko.
 
Absolutely. Though Laf got his points benefitting from Kakkos strong play and the kid looked as snakebit as Rick Nash in '14.

I do agree something went down. I also know the feeling of when I am positively wrong about a choice, it gets exposed, then someone presses me about it. Gallant also had big shades of that. Gallant is a great coach, I firmly believe that was the wrong move, we did not look even close to one bit better without Kakko.
Impossible to call it the wrong move without knowing what caused it. We may not find out unless a journalist reveals it.
 
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I’m sorry but Columbus to offer something good. Taking all the good assets off the table is not how you trade for Kakko
There are still enough players. Besides, Kakko doesn't have the value to offer more at the moment. Actually, we'd take him hoping he'd wake up.
 
Was awesome being short a forward pressing for goals in the 3rd period of an elimination game, I don’t want there to be a big problem but something screwy must’ve transpired for that to take place or we really shot ourselves in the foot letting Strome play
 
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Okay you can maybe understand Panarin playing scared perimiter hockey wth his 6'0 175 lbs, but I can't remember once seing Kreider drive the net hard or rely going for it on the forecheck in this series with his 6'3 223 lbs!! But can you blame him, Cernak, Mcdounut, Hedman; Rutta and Hedman are huge and mean as hell

I can and will blame Kreider for his chosen style of play. He is what he is, but belaboring the point will not turn him into something never was.

Kakko on the other hand is showing us at a very young age how canny he is in tight places. He needs to work on his quickness and confidence, everything else just need to be refined. He can stand to be a wee bit more aggressive, but he has already shown how hard he is to knock of the puck, especially on the cycle.

It will be a grave mistake to give up on this kid. Him and Laf have the potential to finally bring to the Rangers true power forwards.
 
Regardless of what we think about Kakko and Laf you have to admit the production isn't there. The Rangers had the #1 and #2 picks in two drafts and that's what they ended up with?
I know they were both no brainer picks but we didn't get a Mcdavid, Mathews, Crosby, Ovechkin or even a Kane. Lafreniere has the best chance to be a solid 1st liner but that wasn't what anyone thought we were getting.

We expected allot more from both of them. I know I did.
 
Igor's ascension is very much the same as henke dragging lesser teams much further along than they should've
We technically have similar pieces to Tampa. Just need Panarin to produce like Zibanejad and we can easily be in the ECF every year.
 
There are still enough players. Besides, Kakko doesn't have the value to offer more at the moment. Actually, we'd take him hoping he'd wake up.
No there aren’t still enough players. You can’t even name them yourself.
 
If Stromme said he could go you let him play. Hunt actually played well. I saw no issues with his play and actually it was better than the effort Kakko has produced.
 
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