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Over the volcano said:
If we're being honest then let's acknowledge together that this thread is about Brazeau and your post is literally about the entire organization except for Brazeau.

The guy is found gold.
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No, my commentary was based on what role he's being used in and why it's problematic for the team and the player. But again, you don't like dealing in reality and being honest, so you misrepresent my view.
 
LSCII said:
No, my commentary was based on what role he's being used in and why it's problematic for the team and the player. But again, you don't like dealing in reality and being honest, so you misrepresent my view.
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I cant believe anyone could misrepresent your view, being such a positive beacon around here usually
 
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NDiesel said:
I cant believe anyone could misrepresent your view, being such a positive beacon around here usually
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He's getting nearly 2 minutes of PPTOI a night. That screams they view him as an offensive player that needs to be productive, no?

Seems to be I'm the only person in this thread being truthful about what the state of this roster is and how the team is relying on second tier, what should be bottom 6 players, to carry their offense. It also explains why they can't score a goal a lot of nights and why their PP is complete trash. But hey, being honest isn't allowed here, apparently.
 
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LSCII said:
He's getting nearly 2 minutes of PPTOI a night. That screams they view him as an offensive player that needs to be productive, no?

Seems to be I'm the only person in this thread being truthful about what the state of this roster is and how the team is relying on second tier, what should be bottom 6 players, to carry their offense. It also explains why they can't score a goal a lot of nights and why their PP is complete trash. But hey, being honest isn't allowed here, apparently.
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Yeah he has had a load of 2nd line time, plus the PP time like you said. Most of his 5v5 time has been with Lindholm and Marchand (that line has actually been outscored 6-7 ES) and he has 9 goals. Honestly, Frederic would prob have 12 or more with that same PP time and linemates. I see him more as a fortunate recipient than "good", but it's not like they have much of a choice with their limited roster scoring wise.
 
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LouJersey said:
Yeah he has had a load of 2nd line time, plus the PP time like you said. Most of his 5v5 time has been with Lindholm and Marchand (that line has actually been outscored 6-7 ES) and he has 9 goals. Honestly, Frederic would prob have 12 or more with that same PP time and linemates. I see him more as a fortunate recipient than "good", but it's not like they have much of a choice with their limited roster scoring wise.
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Can't believe anyone who actually watches the games has this view.
 
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LSCII said:
He's getting nearly 2 minutes of PPTOI a night. That screams they view him as an offensive player that needs to be productive, no?

Seems to be I'm the only person in this thread being truthful about what the state of this roster is and how the team is relying on second tier, what should be bottom 6 players, to carry their offense. It also explains why they can't score a goal a lot of nights and why their PP is complete trash. But hey, being honest isn't allowed here, apparently.
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1:45 per game. That 10th on the team. Merkulov got more PP time when he was up. But he's tied with Pasta (4:02 per game) for most PP goals. It's not Brazeau's fault (or Sweeney's) that the top line players are all underperforming.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Can't believe anyone who actually watches the games has this view.
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About Frederic or JB55 being just a guy? Guy has played a load with good players and in good situations. 5 es goals with 144 min with 63 and 28 and Freddy has 4 with scrubs, but don't believe Frederic would score more with more talented linemates, really going out on a limb, makes zero sense I agree,
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Like I said, watch the games. Brazeau has played better, been more impactful than Freddy.
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Ah the old you don't agree with me, watch the games. So having better linemates has nothing to do with that, you got it chief, common sense not a strong suit of yours I guess.

Never said JB wasn't having a better year, just said if all things were equal Frederic would be better IMO

quietbruinfan said:
I still say too slow, for the league. But he has other assets and he definitely gives a consistent effort. Most of them do.
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Another guy they seem in no hurry to lock up long term.
 
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LouJersey said:
Ah the old you don't agree with me, watch the games. So having better linemates has nothing to do with that, you got it chief, common sense not a strong suit or yours I guess.

Never said JB wasn't having a better year, just said if all things were equal Frederic would be better IMO


Another guy they seem in no hurry to lock up long term.
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Ah the old, if all things were equal.

We disagree, but thanks for the chief comment.
 
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He scored an opportunistic goal by putting himself in the right place at the right time

More impressive was the chance 2-3 minutes later he used body and hands to get a great chance he almost beat Thompson high to his left

I think he is a good skater and gets where he’s supposed to

Definitely a third line regular ability and legit PP presence

Glad we got him and I drafted him in the SIm

Thank you Cam (hear he’s a fan)
 
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LouJersey said:
Ah the old you don't agree with me, watch the games. So having better linemates has nothing to do with that, you got it chief, common sense not a strong suit of yours I guess.

Never said JB wasn't having a better year, just said if all things were equal Frederic would be better IMO


Another guy they seem in no hurry to lock up long term.
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He is just filler, like most of the other upcoming UFAS. (Save Marchand) The problem is some have to be kept for continuity. Neely and Sweeney's drafting has come home to roost. I just hope he can improve upon say three or four of the ufas through whatever means....The rebuild is here. Edit I looked at puckpedia and i was wrong about 8 ufas. I only saw five bottom of the depth chart guys and Marchand fwiw.
 
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quietbruinfan said:
He is just filler, like most of the other upcoming UFAS. (Save Marchand) The problem is some have to be kept for continuity. Neely and Sweeney's drafting has come home to roost. I just hope he can improve upon say three or four of the ufas through whatever means....The rebuild is here. Edit I looked at puckpedia and i was wrong about 8 ufas. I only saw five bottom of the depth chart guys and Marchand fwiw.
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My point again is, when a guy plays with two top 6 forwards, and 2nd line PP minutes and has 9 goals, well, big deal. I think you could put almost anyone with some sort of offensive acumen there and they do the same. I like Braz's big bod and his penchant for going to the net. Skates better than given credit for IMO as well
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
1:45 per game. That 10th on the team. Merkulov got more PP time when he was up. But he's tied with Pasta (4:02 per game) for most PP goals. It's not Brazeau's fault (or Sweeney's) that the top line players are all underperforming.
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Merk was literally one game. Using that as an argument is disingenuous. He's 7th on the team in total PPTOI for the season, FFS. So stop with the fake ass nonsense.
 
LouJersey said:
Yeah he has had a load of 2nd line time, plus the PP time like you said. Most of his 5v5 time has been with Lindholm and Marchand (that line has actually been outscored 6-7 ES) and he has 9 goals. Honestly, Frederic would prob have 12 or more with that same PP time and linemates. I see him more as a fortunate recipient than "good", but it's not like they have much of a choice with their limited roster scoring wise.
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That's the rub, right? You take a bottom 6 guy and elevate him because you have to, and then people say disingenuous things like he's not playing in the top 6. Or he's not big getting PPTOI compared to Pasta. And they act like literally anyone else elevated to that position couldn't do what Brazeau is doing.

Like I said, it's a great story and cool that he's getting time there and being somewhat productive. But it speaks to a huge issue with the roster construction this year.
 
He's a better version of Coyle at 10% of the salary. Not really my type of guy for todays NHL and I prefer him on the 4th line but appreciate the contributions. If him and the Geek are taking extensions that don't come with big raises what are we waiting for.


Coyle/Carlo/Freddy all need to go they are hurting the team and that 12 mil cap space can be much better used.
 
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LSCII said:
Merk was literally one game. Using that as an argument is disingenuous. He's 7th on the team in total PPTOI for the season, FFS. So stop with the fake ass nonsense.
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I Agree. Not a very good point to be made on my part.

But even 7th in power play time on this team means he's only getting the scraps left over from the first unit, which has been pitiful.
 
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BigGoalBrad said:
He's a better version of Coyle at 10% of the salary. Not really my type of guy for todays NHL and I prefer him on the 4th line but appreciate the contributions. If him and the Geek are taking extensions that don't come with big raises what are we waiting for.


Coyle/Carlo/Freddy all need to go they are hurting the team and that 12 mil cap space can be much better used.
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What? I don't want to rag on JB55 but Coyle he is not. I also keep he, Freddy and Carlo long before him if forced to choose.
 
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LouJersey said:
Ah the old you don't agree with me, watch the games. So having better linemates has nothing to do with that, you got it chief, common sense not a strong suit of yours I guess.

Never said JB wasn't having a better year, just said if all things were equal Frederic would be better IMO


Another guy they seem in no hurry to lock up long term.
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I'm a big Brazzeau guy. But have you noticed Freddy out there on the PP doing absolutely nothing aside from losing possession of the puck?

Brazzeau makes many good plays per game. Freddy hasn't been doing a whole lot. He has looked a lot better with Brazzeau on his line though.
 
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The Hockey Tonk Man said:
I'm a big Brazzeau guy. But have you noticed Freddy out there on the PP doing absolutely nothing aside from losing possession of the puck?

Brazzeau makes many good plays per game. Freddy hasn't been doing a whole lot. He has looked a lot better with Brazzeau on his line though.
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Should note that of Freddy's 6 assists this season, 3 of them were on goals scored by Brazeau.
 
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