Value of: Just to play Devils advocate Value of Bergeron at the deadline

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Now to be clear I don't expect this to happen I expect Boston to make the playoffs.

But we are about 25% of the way through the season and Boston is currently outside a playoff spot.

So just to play Devils advocate If Boston did continue to struggle and Bergeron DID decide he was open to being a rental what would he get? What would you want.

I acknowledge he would be the ultimate playoff rental whoever got him would be the absolute favorite without a doubt.

I think Boston would get a kings ransom.

EVERY playoff team would want him.

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[Michael HOMERUNing]

Top 20 prospect

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Top 20 prospect

More than That

 

[Mekkh]

Wrong thread -_-

But yeah give me Bergeron for Eklund + 1st + something

 

[glenbuis]

there out of a playoff spot with a half dozen games in hand . as a habs fan embracing the tank , i would think bergeron is going no where and the bruins will be one of the four teams from the atlantic in the playoffs.

 

[trick9]

He's not going anywhere.

I would gladly give McMichael + 1st + for him at 50% though. Even if it was just a rental move.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Sorry, probably I don't understand something, but why do the Devils need an advocate?

 

[BruinsBtn]

Now to be clear I don't expect this to happen I expect Boston to make the playoffs.

But we are about 25% of the way through the season and Boston is currently outside a playoff spot.

So just to play Devils advocate If Boston did continue to struggle and Bergeron DID decide he was open to being a rental what would he get? What would you want.

I acknowledge he would be the ultimate playoff rental whoever got him would be the absolute favorite without a doubt.

I think Boston would get a kings ransom.

EVERY playoff team would want him.

The Bruins are on pace for 103 points. How is that 'struggling'?

You know you have to factor games played into the standings, right?

 

[pld459666]

Now to be clear I don't expect this to happen I expect Boston to make the playoffs.

But we are about 25% of the way through the season and Boston is currently outside a playoff spot.

So just to play Devils advocate If Boston did continue to struggle and Bergeron DID decide he was open to being a rental what would he get? What would you want.

I acknowledge he would be the ultimate playoff rental whoever got him would be the absolute favorite without a doubt.

I think Boston would get a kings ransom.

EVERY playoff team would want him.

There would be no shortage of suitors.

The return for Boston would be massive.

Bergeron is everything you want in a player that has the ability to impact all three zones.

If that was the direction the Bruins were going, they should move Marchand as well at which point the rebuild would be short

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Wrong thread -_-

But yeah give me Bergeron for Eklund + 1st + something

What? San Jose is in no position to trade for a Bergeron type player. Especially at the cost of our future.

 

[wintersej]

Bergeron will retire a Bruin. If in the next few years things go downhill in Boston (very possible!), I don’t think Marchand for sure needs the “always a Bruin” treatment.

But they are both performing well, the team is on pace for 103 points, and will be major TDL players with oodles of deadline cap space.

 

[McSuper]

Image him playing playing in Edmonton . He would help the D so much and be a great mentor to Holloway . Why can't dreams ever come true .

Bourgault +1st + Lavoie + 2023 2nd . I purposely put 2 french players in there to rub it in the Canadians faces .

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I'd love to have him on the Avs, a Nichushkin-Bergeron-O'Connor line would be the bane of many teams. Don't think he leaves the Bruins though.

 

[BruinLVGA]

The Bruins didn't name him the captain a relatively short while ago to trade him away in his 18th straight season playing for Boston. He will retire a Bruins after more than 20 seasons, ~1400 games, 400+ goals, ~1100 points, to see his number go up to the rafters and be a first ballot hall of famer. As how it's supposed to be. End of story.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Someone doesn't look at games played

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Someone doesn't look at games played

I don't factor in games that haven't been played because they haven't been played

 

[TheGroceryStick]

What's his value if available though?

 

[PlayMakers]

Now to be clear I don't expect this to happen I expect Boston to make the playoffs.

But we are about 25% of the way through the season and Boston is currently outside a playoff spot.

So just to play Devils advocate If Boston did continue to struggle and Bergeron DID decide he was open to being a rental what would he get? What would you want.

I acknowledge he would be the ultimate playoff rental whoever got him would be the absolute favorite without a doubt.

I think Boston would get a kings ransom.

EVERY playoff team would want him.

Fwiw, they're not out of the playoffs, they're in a wild card spot.

They have the fewest games played in the league, but based on win percent (which is the only really way to judge the standings when some teams have 16 games played and others have 21), they are in.

I think the Bruins are going to need the first 20 games to get things sorted out internally with all the new players and combos. Hopefully they'll hit their stride in the second quarter.

As for Bergeron's trade value, it's hard to picture him being willing to waive. I'd put the chances at less than 1%. But if he did, I'd imagine a 1st and a good prospect. Deadline deals never end up being as big as people say.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Fwiw, they're not out of the playoffs, they're in a wild card spot.

They have the fewest games played in the league, but based on win percent (which is the only really way to judge the standings when some teams have 16 games played and others have 21), they are in.

I think the Bruins are going to need the first 20 games to get things sorted out internally with all the new players and combos. Hopefully they'll hit their stride in the second quarter.

As for Bergeron's trade value, it's hard to picture him being willing to waive. I'd put the chances at less than 1%. But if he did, I'd imagine a 1st and a good prospect. Deadline deals never end up being as big as people say.

it might be a bit more, but agree it's not what's being discussed above.

36yrs old, 18 yrs in the league, UFA at the end of the season.

great player? of course

but UFA's aren't gonna pull those kinds of returns

and didnt Coffey do a bit of 'cup chasing' at the end of his career ? I'm sure others have as well

and yes, there are some that stayed the course and with the team they were already on

to the OP, it's not about being traded as some have noted he prolly won't be. it's about what kind of value he would return IF he were traded

this is just fantasy folks.. ease up

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Fwiw, they're not out of the playoffs, they're in a wild card spot.

They have the fewest games played in the league, but based on win percent (which is the only really way to judge the standings when some teams have 16 games played and others have 21), they are in.

I think the Bruins are going to need the first 20 games to get things sorted out internally with all the new players and combos. Hopefully they'll hit their stride in the second quarter.

As for Bergeron's trade value, it's hard to picture him being willing to waive. I'd put the chances at less than 1%. But if he did, I'd imagine a 1st and a good prospect. Deadline deals never end up being as big as people say.

True but I believe there are exceptions to every rule and Bergeron is an exception he's the ultimate playoff rental

 

[zar]

Bruins are not in trouble and Bergeron retires a lifetime Bruin.

 

[McJedi]

Would love to see this guy retire a Bruin. Hate the idea of this thread.

 

[Perennial]

Depends...

If both Bergeron and Boston anticipate a reunion on the first day of FA this summer, it limits what contracts they'll be willing to accept in return...

For example, Calgary would seem like a great fit, but the Bruins would require expiring contracts coming back from a team near the cap, which means Calgary couldn't include Monahan or Lucic in the deal since they're both signed through next season

And if Bergeron is definitely re-signing in the summer, Boston doesn't need to be all that demanding in trade talks, since whatever they get is essentially gravy given they'll be playing meaningless hockey anyway until the off-season, and then have Bergeron back next year...


To New York: Bergeron

To Boston: Kravtsov, STL's 2022 2nd


Rangers add a veteran top 6 C for the rest of the season at the cost of a disgruntled employee

Bruins get a young offensive winger with a lot of upside who could benefit from a change of scenery, and a 2nd rd pick

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Would love to see this guy retire a Bruin. Hate the idea of this thread.

Really you wouldn't want him on the Avs? The last time the Avs acquired a Bruins Legend it worked out

 

[Cancuks]

Ryder, Halak, 2nd?