Rumor: Just Kidding! Pettersson and JT Miller Trade Reunion!

[Jerzey Devil]

Hughes to NJ starts with Hischier and Nemec and then there's a +++

Or it just waits until free agency

 

[JKG33]

Evidently judging by Rutherfords interview, this has been about the tension with Miller all along. And I already said, Petterson did start scoring and playing better when Miller took his leave of absents for his"mental reset"

As far as Pettersons cap hit goes, he's a career PPG center. Ppl said the same sh** about Jack Eichel and his issues.

So 1 season 2 years ago, and a small handful of games this year? That's your sample size to justify his horrendous contract?

You mean Eichel, the guy who wanted out because he wanted to win and his team was a joke? Not a great comparison at all

 

[notsocommonsense]

Just do a full-scale rebuild. Mercer + Silayev + Nemec + 1st + contracts for salary for Q. Hughes to NJ.

No

 

[EP to EP back to EP]

Or it just waits until free agency

And that's fine, NJD fans are free to wish that Hughes leaves Vancouver (could happen), that NJD isn't trying to compete for a cup and can afford 13m+ for Hughes, after Luke and company get theirs, etc, etc etc.

But we are talking about trading for one of the big 2. Hughes and Makar are the two best defensemen in this league, and 3rd place isn't even close. Though values are different here, don't get me wrong, but this is the equivalent to trading for McDavid, Draisatl or Mackinnon and saying "Our 2c and best D prospect are enough to get Draisatl". If Canucks traded Hughes, it would be one of the biggest trades this century, if not the biggest.

 

[Brookbank]

So are we supposed to drop all of our Miller or Petterson proposals in this void where they get buried by banter ?

 

[Emerica]

someone take us out of our misery

 

[nickdawg95]

where are all the van fans who were telling me this was all made up by the media ??? awfully quiet now

 

[Brookbank]

Or it just waits until free agency

His rights would still be traded. Just like Bedards.

So it would involve Nico Hiesher ++ going to Chicago, Hughs going to NJ and Bedard going to Vancouver

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Just 2 weeks ago this board was full of Canucks fans saying that it's just Vancouver media blowing s*** out of proportion, and there's likely not to much to see here. If you can't see how the president of a team coming out and giving this kind of interview impacts value, there's no discussion to be had. I'm pretty sure if you made a poll fans of literally every other team would agree with me.

I'd bet front offices have already known the Canucks position/willingness to make a move for awhile. This may have been a bombshell to fans but probably not to the teams the Canucks have been negotiating with. I doubt much has really changed.

 

[MOGlLNY]

best I can do is Cozens for EP 1 for 1

 

[Brookbank]

Miller for Lindholm

The Vancouver side would want some retention since that was a free agent deal with some overpay built in. And the deal runs a year longer.

Is Lindholm at least defensively responsible these days ?

Boston wins this trade. But Vancouver has to trade Miller. I wouldn't be thrilled but at least on paper, the 2nd line center is covered.

 

[wintersej]

Would Boston do Miller for Lindholm with retention ?

It would be about the retention amount.

 

[Peter Griffin]

best I can do is Cozens for EP 1 for 1

Best be moving on then.

 

[wintersej]

The Vancouver side would want some retention since that was a free agent deal with some overpay built in. And the deal runs a year longer.

Is Lindholm at least defensively responsible these days ?

Boston wins this trade. But Vancouver has to trade Miller. I wouldn't be thrilled but at least on paper, the 2nd line center is covered.

Some think Lindholm’s slow start is about a finger injury he has been nursing on his left hand. I couldn’t say.

 

[Brookbank]

It would be about the retention amount.

500-750k retention on Lindholm is probably all you can ask. He's 2 years younger than Miller

 

[PeE eL DuBoiS]

It was already known they have to trade 1 if not both, nothing has changed.
How dumb do you think these GM's are?

I really feel for you VAN fans after the great season last year. But you're delusional if you don't think Vancouver has lost a lot of leverage with the way things have developed.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Let me make something crystal clear:

Chris Drury should not have the right to make any trade. Chris Drury should not continue to be in the position he's in. There's inept, there's bad at your job, and then there's Chris Drury. You cannot screw up every transaction you've ever made and continue to have a job. I know that's the Dolan way, but it's not how you run an airline.

So, having said that, kindly remove the New York Rangers from consideration of any JT Miller trade until we get a competent GM. Thank you.

 

[NYVanfan]

i think the timing of this JR thing means either:
1) a trade is imminent, and this is cover for "why now, when they're on a modest streak?"
2) last straw to challenge them. Tried mediation, no dice. Tried trades, returns suck. So now we ride it out and you can pout and shit the bed and hurt your own value and reputation OR you can step up and show what you are capable of.
He's challenging them, and also saying if it goes to hell it's on them.
I'm fine with it. Trading them for peanuts would be the worst.

 

[jlb124]

Miller for Lindholm

The Vancouver side would want some retention since that was a free agent deal with some overpay built in. And the deal runs a year longer.

Is Lindholm at least defensively responsible these days ?

Boston wins this trade. But Vancouver has to trade Miller. I wouldn't be thrilled but at least on paper, the 2nd line center is covered.

Lindholm would have a no movement clause. Perhaps, He prefers Vancouver for lifestyle.
Though I doubt it.

 

[Coach Parker]

Keep the Vancouver / Boston swap going in this chaos:

Miller and Demko for
Coyle, Swayman, Lysell and Carlo.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Best be moving on then.

Not sure if you know but Dylan Cozens had back to back 1 assist games

 

[Peter Griffin]

Not sure if you know but Dylan Cozens had back to back 1 assist games

I was not aware of this, now I am intrigued.

 

[AHLdepth]

There isn't really a way to spin this interview into "it hurts the return".

If we ascribe to this notion, we also ascribe to the fact that NHL GM's, whose jobs and careers are on the line, and are (potentially) actively dealing with the Canucks on an ongoing basis, have not been aware that there was a rift. If Rutherford is now telling media? He has been telling other teams for ages. Why do we think these offers are so low in comparison to where they otherwise might be?

The interview does not lower a return even more, the content of the interview is why offers are already so low.

There is no shot on planet earth that a potentially interested GM, who may be deep in conversation about a deal, is on his way home from the office, flips on the radio, hears this interview and thinks "holy hell, now I've got him!".

 

[Peter Griffin]

There isn't really a way to spin this interview into "it hurts the return".

If we ascribe to this notion, we also ascribe to the fact that NHL GM's, whose jobs and careers are on the line, and are (potentially) actively dealing with the Canucks on an ongoing basis, have not been aware that there was a rift. If Rutherford is now telling media? He has been telling other teams for ages. Why do we think these offers are so low in comparison to where they otherwise might be?

The interview does not lower a return even more, the content of the interview is why offers are already so low.

There is no shot on planet earth that a potentially interested GM, who may be deep in conversation about a deal, is on his way home from the office, flips on the radio, hears this interview and thinks "holy hell, now I've got him!".

Yea it’s more or less Rutherford explaining why we may see Miller and/or Pettersson moved at a discount but him also asserting that they aren’t just going to move them for nothing either.

 

[M2Beezy]

To Vancouver: Dahlin, Kulich, 2025 3rd rd pick
To Buff: Pettersson, Hoglander, Klimovich, Desharnais, Kunz, 2026 6th, 2027 5th

And for Miller, heres two good options:

To Toronto: Miller, Juulsen, Celebrini, 2028 7th
To Vancouver: Rielly, Minton, 2026 2nd, 2027 2nd

To Colorado: Miller, Juulsen, Dorrington, 2025 4th
To Vancouver: Necas, 2025 3rd

Lets do this! Get it over with