Just how fit is the average NHL player?

I had played hockey at a decent level. At least my name registers on hockeydb.com. Their are a couple of points that I will weigh in on.

The NHL combine to me is time wasted. I would much rather see all of those players on the ice at the same time. If each team wants to test players physically in groups or as individuals they should get the chance. Only two stats should matter from the combine. Height and weight just as a baseline to have one person(s)
measure them to get even numbers across the board. This is the question that I always ask in my head. Is it better to see a kid with a low level of fitness who has lots of room to grow. Or is it better to see a kid who is a physical freak who is clearly dedicated but may be maxed out. The combine favors the kids who are in better shape but when you look at the results years later the kids who were at or near the top are rarely ever the best players from the draft.

That running test is a joke. Sure hockey players usually play a minute at max per shift but they have great leg strength. To me running is more of a mental sport than a physical sport. The reason as to why I say that is because people run/jog and the reason as to why they stop is because their mind tells them that they can not go any further. Sure their lungs or legs may be burning but they are still capable of keep going. We have all seen those clips of long distance runners who just collapse because their bodies can not physically go any further. Hockey players are great at getting a second and third wind. Running two miles is the same. You can start off and speed up in intervals.

Hockey players are in great shape just not in areas that make them look like beasts. Go work out a gym, see how many people there compliment you by saying 'you have really good hip flexors'. That never happens. Hockey players are in great shape core down. They work on their legs and more less isolate the smaller muscles to personalize their bodies physic to the muscles used more in their sport. If you look at players upper bodies they could leave a lot to be desired. You rarely ever hear of players lifting during season. Other than upper body for shot strength (shot speed is more repetition and technique over pure strength though) and the actual hitting and pushing part of the game. Some players can carry a little extra upper body weight and it will not effect their game.


One of my all time favorite athlete quotes was from the pitcher David Wells. A reporter asked him how often he worked out on his arms for pitch strength. He said something to the effect of that he never works out. You can pull a muscle but you can't pull fat.
 
I'm pretty sure most nhl players could manage that. When I was 17 and going through draft combine stuff (different sport - AFL - running is admittedly a primary requirement) anything over 4mins/km was considered unfit. Strength wise though it was different we just had to bench and squat our body weight as many times as possible.
 
In the Army we have to do a minimum of 42 pushups in 2 minutes, 53 situps in 2 minutes, and run under a 15:54 two mile. Of the 700+ NHL players in the league, how many guys do you think could pass this? I know guys like Crosby are in great shape, but is the average NHLer anything beyond pedestrian in terms of their overall physical capabilities?

I'm trying to find the article where it mentions Sid running a mile in the sand in 5:30.

The closest things I can find to it is him - along with his teammates - running under 6:00/mi at Shattuck.
First he had to make the team. Players at Shattuck had to run a mile in under six minutes. Sidney tried on his own and failed. Personal trainer Andy O'Brien worked with Sidney. O'Brien taught Sidney to make him stronger and faster.

Sidney's fitness improved. He finished the mile in plenty of time and made the team.
https://books.google.com/books?id=h...&q=sidney crosby fitness running mile&f=false
 
I fail to see how vertical leap translates to MMA.

He could, however, end the lives of virtually any human being on the planet in 1v1 combat.

I guess my point was similiar, in that pushups dont translate to skating, shooting, defensive positioning, checking, etc.

A tall guy that has long arms who weighs alot can't do a ton of pushups... no surprise there.
 
Didn't Kessel test 3rd best in fitness at training camp? He is in tremendous shape but gets **** because he has a fat face

Same with Chris Drury's facial features. As with Phil, has nothing to do with conditioning or how fit he is.

I skate stick and puck sessions off and on to add variety to my workouts. I don't do much else besides skate around and take shots and the occasional quick burst just to get the heart rate up higher. By the time 45 mins have ticked by, I'm drenched in sweat. People are kidding themselves if they think NHL players aren't in shape.

This seems to be a thread for those trying to feel better about themselves by wishing they were comparable to pro athletes and if you truly played the game, you wouldn't even be asking. An open hockey session would gas the average person
 
I guess my point was similiar, in that pushups dont translate to skating, shooting, defensive positioning, checking, etc.

A tall guy that has long arms who weighs alot can't do a ton of pushups... no surprise there.

woosh, right over my head, thanks for clarifying.
 
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I know with that Wellwood picture he has a gut. But with him slouching forward and if he is exhaling it will really expand your abdomen.

I am not defending him in that picture but just posting my conspiracy theory.
 
On the first episode of the Epix Stadium Series show, John Scott was shown trying to do pushups and he could only crank out like three or four. I know he isn't a prime example of an NHL player (he shouldn't be in the league) but it made me think about the level of fitness in the NHL.

In the Army we have to do a minimum of 42 pushups in 2 minutes, 53 situps in 2 minutes, and run under a 15:54 two mile. Of the 700+ NHL players in the league, how many guys do you think could pass this? I know guys like Crosby are in great shape, but is the average NHLer anything beyond pedestrian in terms of their overall physical capabilities?


I would guess every NHLer can do that... I might be biais because I would that test without breaking a sweat.
 
I would bet serious money there is no one in the Army... any army in the world that can put Byfuglien on his butt with a legitimate legal check.
 
I always wonder this from a different angle, lots of players are in the 180-200 pound range. Pretty average for most people that have gone to a gym for two years or more on a regular basis.

Not many hyper muscular players, I'm more interested in what kind of numbers the average player could push on a bench press, squat, deadlif ect....

John Scott at 260? Of course push ups are harder but I'd put money that he stronger than 90% of the league.
 
Pretty sure most NHLers are in extremely good shape. Some just don't need to be because they have specific roles, like taking runs at people and face punching for a few mins/game. Other guys, they are just genetic freaks and don't need to be in top physical form to be elite, like a Kessel. And there are other guys like Kessel, I remember Doug Weight always had a nice layer of flab all around his body, but he still did well on paper for fitness tests and he did plenty well playing hockey. Some guys just don't need to work so hard in the gym and be hardcore about their food choices and get ripped, underneath that layer of goo is actually a very fit body :)
 
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On the first episode of the Epix Stadium Series show, John Scott was shown trying to do pushups and he could only crank out like three or four. I know he isn't a prime example of an NHL player (he shouldn't be in the league) but it made me think about the level of fitness in the NHL.

In the Army we have to do a minimum of 42 pushups in 2 minutes, 53 situps in 2 minutes, and run under a 15:54 two mile. Of the 700+ NHL players in the league, how many guys do you think could pass this? I know guys like Crosby are in great shape, but is the average NHLer anything beyond pedestrian in terms of their overall physical capabilities?

Is this like the minimum for any Army serviceman? ie computer support, IT etc? Because honestly what you just posted is nothing special in the least. Not even by weekend warrior YMCA gym joe's standards. I am not trying to be egotistical or pompous, but honestly... a sub 16:00 min 2 mile run? I coach junior high kids who would pump that out uphill on a rocky trail. YES most NHL'ers if not all could do the stats you posted. FFS
 
Wrong....

The best athlete is 100m and vertical jump..

Or technically decathlon. ..

800 is where the slow non athletes start...those without high twitch Fibre muscles....you get to 1500 and 300 and forget about...

100m
Long jump
Etc.
That's where athletes are...

Oh gawd what am I reading? :facepalm:
 
On the first episode of the Epix Stadium Series show, John Scott was shown trying to do pushups and he could only crank out like three or four. I know he isn't a prime example of an NHL player (he shouldn't be in the league) but it made me think about the level of fitness in the NHL.

lol I have to see this.
 
NHL players are much more fit than military types. AINEC
Fit for hockey, yes. Overall physical capabilities, I don't think so, but it's close. As far as the very best in both categories (SEALS, Rangers, MARSOC, PJ's ect... vs. top NHLers), the military wins by a country mile. Also, I wasn't insulting NHL fitness, I was just trying to gauge the general opinions of how fit they are. And yes, the minimum standards are easy, that's why they're the minimum. There are a few guys who I think would fail the pushups and the run though.
 
His technique sucks...With some practice he could I'm sure.
Too tall and long...

But his athleticism might be overrated.

The top PFP mma champion who was a junior college wrestling champion, noted for his natural ability in training is athletically overrated? I guess we can add Jones to the list of non athletes like 800 and 1500m WR holders?
 
On the first episode of the Epix Stadium Series show, John Scott was shown trying to do pushups and he could only crank out like three or four. I know he isn't a prime example of an NHL player (he shouldn't be in the league) but it made me think about the level of fitness in the NHL.

In the Army we have to do a minimum of 42 pushups in 2 minutes, 53 situps in 2 minutes, and run under a 15:54 two mile. Of the 700+ NHL players in the league, how many guys do you think could pass this? I know guys like Crosby are in great shape, but is the average NHLer anything beyond pedestrian in terms of their overall physical capabilities?

I'm willing to bet 99.9% of them. I can pass those tests and I'm a girl/not a pro athlete
 
The average US soldier has nowhere near the level of fitness of a professional athlete, perhaps the special forces guys, but the average soldier really is not in that great of shape.
 
Hockey players are a bit of a unique build as far as the nature of the sport goes.

You don't find any "Linebackers on skates" (yes, like Bfyuglien) because hockey requires a ton of endurance. Whereas in football, a defensive lineman or linebacker doesn't need to put as much emphasis on endurance and can focus their workouts on pure strength and explosiveness.

With the endurance factor coming in to play, hockey players need to keep a lighter weight with a lot more lean muscle mass. The BF%'s are much lower in hockey. Not every player in the league can be a genetic freak like Zdeno Chara or Kris Kreider.

Actually linebackers and defensive lineman have to possess top notch endurance. Navarro Bowman played 95% of the 49ers defensive snaps in 2013 (injured Las year) at 6'1" 250.
 

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