Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky Discussion
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Debatable.
You want success as long as it lines up with what you have as a vision for the team.
You're agenda is more important than the success of the team.
You been on Slaf since day 1 and are just on you're latest crusade.
Lazy because its so obvious, yes, agreed.
I believe all 3 make each other better, I don't think its important to debate which does more.
That's for you, because you know...narrative, agendas…
Mrb1p
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Mrb1p
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Mrb1p
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Did you?
Jesse Ylonen played 37 games in 22-23
RHP played 34.
Meanwhile Suzuki played all 82 games which is more than those 2 played combined.
But you want to try to convince me that Suzuki got his 66pts in 82 games, playing with Ylonen (16pts) and RHP (20pts)?
Yeah ok lol
Mrb1p
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You can put up all the pictures you want, it still doesn't line up with what you said
Which was that Suzuki put up 66pts playing with guys who weren't even there all year lol.
Caufield hurt his shoulder that season, before that he had 26 goals in 46 games, did he get all those goals playing Chris Tierney?
Mrb1p
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I Mean.. he did though. He played with a revolving door and STILL produced 66 points. That disproves your argument.
Anyway, this is ridiculous. It all started because I said Slaf had comparable numbers to Mackinnon and Lafreniere but nowhere near the same support, then people started arguing for some reason that Slaf is just as important?
Hell nah you bunch of flowers, stop that shit its cringe.
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Are you sure you're not a robot sent from the future to slander poor ol' Slafkovsky on a message board? Like some kind of hockey Terminator programmed with the sole mission of trashing the kid online? Skynet must've really had it out for him in 2029 to send you back in time just to post these hot takes. "I'll be back... with more negative Slafkovsky stats."
Maybe in the future he becomes the greatest hockey player of all time and you were sent back to destroy his confidence early? I can just picture you in some underground bunker analyzing his every shift like "TARGETING SLAFKOVSKY... INITIATING CRITICISM PROTOCOL."
Seriously though, the kid is only 21 years old trying to figure it out. Maybe dial back the termination sequence and give him a chance to develop before going full T-1000 on him in every thread. Until then, I'll just assume you're powered by some advanced CPU and liquid metal alloy with a weird vendetta against Slovak hockey players.
(For the record, I agree with you, but I'm tryna fit in around here so I've adjusted the tint on my rose colored glasses to the limo tint)
Mrb1p
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Now were down to diminish Suzukis impact because our feelings are hurt that Slaf isnt Mcdavid. So ridiculous.
This can’t be lol.
Again, I don’t care that you don’t rate Slafkovsky, it’s been your thing since day 1.
I get it.
Just disagreed with your “leeching” argument, all this other nonsense you’re talking about is you playing a shell game.
How important Slafkovsky is on that line to me is irrelevant, he’s a part of it and they were very successful this season.
Actually trying to argue Suzuki would have had as good a season playing with anyone and using RHP and Ylonen to prove it is just loco talk.
Your picture shows me that Nick's line produced best when he was playing with Cole and Dach, and then production per line dips dramatically playing with lesser players.
Mrb1p
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He spent 37% of his even strength ice time with Caufield. His 2nd most common ES linemate? RHP at 23%.
Up until January 21st:
.8 ppg and .55 at EV.
Caufield got injured on the 21st of january. Nick Suzuki has a .81 PPG and .58 at EV after that
Tell me again how he didnt produce that season with RHP and a revolving door of Ylonen, Anderson, Hoffman, Dach and Pezzeta
Mrb1p
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No we're not.
You used the term leech which sparked this whole discussion. The reality is that you're diminishing Slaf's contributions by implying that he mooches points off of Nick.
Don't accuse others of what YOU are doing.
Mrb1p
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He does though.
Answer my question, if any other C on the team than Nick was on the first line, how many points would Slaf have?
You're arguing that Nick Suzuki would have 90+pts with replacement level players.He spent 37% of his even strength ice time with Caufield. His 2nd most common ES linemate? RHP at 23%.
Up until January 21st:
.8 ppg and .55 at EV.
Caufield got injured on the 21st of january. Nick Suzuki has a .81 PPG and .58 at EV after that
Tell me again how he didnt produce that season with RHP and a revolving door of Ylonen, Anderson, Hoffman, Dach and Pezzeta
Like I been saying, its your hill man.
Mrb1p
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Here's what you ACTUALLY said
"Ill have you believe Nick Suzuki had 67 points with RHP and Jesse Ylonen.".
He did NOT have 67pts playing with them.
He got 66pts playing with a bunch of different players, which at one point in time, for a very small sample, included RHP and Ylonen.
But that small sample is not something I would extrapolate to minimize the contributions of his CURRENT linemates.
You're tap dancing man lol
With Cole still on the wing, I'd still say Slaf can get into 45-50 point range. He's a set up man at this point in his career, so it would depend on how much his linemates can convert. I am still confident that he would generate scoring opportunities with his passing as he does now.
What I can say though is that before Slaf joined Nick's line, he was producing 66 points year. After Slaf was added, he increased production to near PPG one year and above PPG the following year. And I do think Slaf creates space for Nick that other players were not doing.
The question I'd ask: is Nick a ppg centre without both Slaf and Cole on his wings? I am not so sure. This is why I think the relationship is mutually beneficial as opposed to leeching.
