Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky Discussion

[Skip Bayless]

Hes been really good in the corners, also always/almost always in the right spot defensively.

I do wish her run through people and would ragdoll people but hes not that guy. If he can polish is game around the net, he will be a great player.

I feel like he has it in him, but he needs to go through his villain arc. If he sees Caufield getting laid out by Ovy, that might do it.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hertl is an interesting comparison. It took him 6 seasons to break the 50 point barrier, where he developed into 70 point range.

I'm hoping Slaf breaks that barrier earlier, but I also hope people will show that level of patience.

A Bit unfair to Hertl, he was a .7 ppg guy at 20, had 46 at 22. He also had amazing years in the POs early on.

Overall Slaf is ahead a little bit though.

 

[ahmedou]

I'm relying only on my own eyes from now on.

I can't rely anymore on the Slaf's basher posters of this Slaf's topic.

The Slaf's bashing during the playoffs has been really ridiculous. Nobody are taking y'all seriously from now on.

 

[That Habs Fan]

Let's hope he keeps up his play from the playoffs next regular season. Both him and Hutson need to shoot lots more.

 

[Mrb1p]

I feel like he has it in him, but he needs to go through his villain arc. If he sees Caufield getting laid out by Ovy, that might do it.

He saw Ovi almost decapitate Caufield in the first game and nothing happened. During the game 3 bench filling brawl he had the opportunity to spin heads but chose to stand way back.

Its not in him, never will be. Its fine.

 

[Andy]

A Bit unfair to Hertl, he was a .7 ppg guy at 20, had 46 at 22. He also had amazing years in the POs early on.

Overall Slaf is ahead a little bit though.

Slaf had a much better 19-20 year old year than Hossa, but no one skeptical of Slaf is saying that he was better or will be than Hossa, nor are they using that season to suggest another tier of development.

At the end of the day, it took Hertl 6 years to truly break out. I hope we lend Slaf the same patience.

 

[Mrb1p]

Slaf had a much better 19-20 year old year than Hossa, but no one is saying that Slaf was better than Hossa.

At the end of the day, it took Hertl 6 years to truly break out. I hope we lend Slaf the same patience.

Slaf is broken out, IMO. 50-60 points is pretty much right in his range, no?

 

[KevSkillz4]

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[Andy]

Slaf is broken out, IMO. 50-60 points is pretty much right in his range, no?

I have no idea. Im not so sure. I definitely think he has potential to be a 70 point winger. I don't think he is done developing.

We forget that he was asked to play a new role on the PP this year (down low and in front of the net) and it took sometime before he started to get comfortable with it. He's also not done developing his physical strength. And contrary to what people think, that doesn't mean he needs to kill people. It just means he is still developing the means to acquire even great puck possession and the ability to win board battles.

 

[417]

Slaf is broken out, IMO. 50-60 points is pretty much right in his range, no?

 

[River Meadow]

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[Mrb1p]

I have no idea. Im not so sure. I definitely think he has potential to be a 70 point winger. I don't think he is done developing.

We forget that he was asked to play a new role on the PP this year (down low and in front of the net) and it took sometime before he started to get comfortable with it. He's also not done developing his physical strength. And contrary to what people think, that doesn't mean he needs to kill people. It just means he is still developing the means to acquire even great puck possession and the ability to win board battles.

I do think hes gonna produce a bit more but overall, dont see him exploding into a 100 points guy is what Im saying.

 

[KevSkillz4]

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@Mrb1p isn't a huge believer in Slaf game.

I have no doubt that Slaf can reach 70-80 pts per season in few years. This guy have everything to produce a lot of points.

 

[Andy]

I do think hes gonna produce a bit more but overall, dont see him exploding into a 100 points guy is what Im saying.

I have not seen a single person ever say this.

A 70 point, 6'3, 230 point winger at 1OA in a draft where there isn't even a 100 point player is nothing to be mad about.

The only thing that will stop Slaf is that there is just one puck, and that by nature will limit production, especially when you're sharing that puck with Hutson, Nick, Cole, and Demidov.

Slaf's game right now isn't to carry the line, but to open up space and get the pucks to Nick and Cole. That role will limit his top end, but I am certain he is a 70 point winger in a context where he gets to touch and carry the puck often. Right now he's not being asked to play this game.

 

[417]

I have no idea. Im not so sure. I definitely think he has potential to be a 70 point winger. I don't think he is done developing.

We forget that he was asked to play a new role on the PP this year (down low and in front of the net) and it took sometime before he started to get comfortable with it. He's also not done developing his physical strength. And contrary to what people think, that doesn't mean he needs to kill people. It just means he is still developing the means to acquire even great puck possession and the ability to win board battles.

At the same age, people thought Nick Suzuki would top out as a #2 50-60pt C.

Trying to project what a player might max out for goals or points is pointless. 5 years ago if you told me Zach Hyman would record seasons of 36, 54 and 27 goals, i'd have called you crazy.

But circumstances transpired where he ended up signing with the Oilers and riding shotgun with McDavid and Draisaitl and boom!.

Points are mostly circumstantial and given the role that Slafkovsky is growing into, there's no reason to think he won't be able to improve on his current numbers in the coming years.

 

[KevSkillz4]

At the same age, people thought Nick Suzuki would top out as a #2 50-60pt C.

Trying to project what a player might max out for goals or points is pointless. 5 years ago if you told me Zach Hyman would record seasons of 36, 54 and 27 goals, i'd have called you crazy.

But circumstances transpired where he ended up signing with the Oilers and riding shotgun with McDavid and Draisaitl and boom!.

Points are mostly circumstantial and given the role that Slafkovsky is growing into, there's no reason to think he won't be able to improve on his current numbers in the coming years.

AMEN. You are THE MAN!

You said everything I wanted to say, but I have go to work, so no time to write that!!

But again... AMEN you are THE MAN!

 

[Captain Mountain]

I have not seen a single person ever say this.

A 70 point, 6'3, 230 point winger at 1OA in a draft where there isn't even a 100 point player is nothing to be mad about.

The only thing that will stop Slaf is that there is just one puck, and that by nature will limit production, especially when you're sharing that puck with Hutson, Nick, Cole, and Demidov.

Slaf's game right now isn't to carry the line, but to open up space and get the pucks to Nick and Cole. That role will limit his top end, but I am certain he is a 70 point winger in a context where he gets to touch and carry the puck often. Right now he's not being asked to play this game.

The other part of the game he can develop is attacking the crease more. Its a skill that not everyone has, but if he can develop it then he's got the potential to be one of the best wingers in the NHL. But its hard to complain about the growth we've seen apart from the inconsistency. Even if that inconsistency is not uncommon or can't be overcome.

 

[Captain Mountain]

At the same age, people thought Nick Suzuki would top out as a #2 50-60pt C.

Trying to project what a player might max out for goals or points is pointless. 5 years ago if you told me Zach Hyman would record seasons of 36, 54 and 27 goals, i'd have called you crazy.

But circumstances transpired where he ended up signing with the Oilers and riding shotgun with McDavid and Draisaitl and boom!.

Points are mostly circumstantial and given the role that Slafkovsky is growing into, there's no reason to think he won't be able to improve on his current numbers in the coming years.

And when it comes to Hyman, its not even that he was riding shotgun with McDavid and Draisaitl (the jump to them from Matthews and Marner isn't massive). Sometimes guys find a good fit and figure things out.

 

[Mrb1p]

I have not seen a single person ever say this.

A 70 point, 6'3, 230 point winger at 1OA in a draft where there isn't even a 100 point player is nothing to be mad about.

The only thing that will stop Slaf is that there is just one puck, and that by nature will limit production, especially when you're sharing that puck with Hutson, Nick, Cole, and Demidov.

Slaf's game right now isn't to carry the line, but to open up space and get the pucks to Nick and Cole. That role will limit his top end, but I am certain he is a 70 point winger in a context where he gets to touch and carry the puck often. Right now he's not being asked to play this game.

Slafs game right now is to dig pucks and be sound defensively. Hes excellent at those two things, IMO. If he starts developping a game around the net, he will be a very good player and that will open up a lot of space.

He'll always be a little bit disappointing because his package is that of a true game changer, even with limited IQ, but im more than fine with him as a top 6 W next to Suzuki now. 70 points does sound realistic, last year I said I was expecting around that and 100 points from Suzuki... guess well have to wait a year or two still.

 

[Andy]

Slafs game right now is to dig pucks and be sound defensively. Hes excellent at those two things, IMO. If he starts developping a game around the net, he will be a very good player and that will open up a lot of space.

He'll always be a little bit disappointing because his package is that of a true game changer, even with limited IQ, but im more than fine with him as a top 6 W next to Suzuki now. 70 points does sound realistic, last year I said I was expecting around that and 100 points from Suzuki... guess well have to wait a year or two still.

I cannot take any eval of Slaf serious that does not mention his transition game from D to NZ and his ability to find tight passing seams in the OZ.

To say his game is just to dig pucks and be sound defensively is such a backhanded compliment and completely ignores another excellent aspect of his game which is to set up his teammates. He makes several scoring chance passes a game. And it's not a fluke. He has excellent vision and IQ.

 

[Mrb1p]

I cannot take any eval of Slaf serious that does not mention his transition game from D to NZ and his ability to find tight passing seams in the OZ.

To say his game is just to dig pucks and be sound defensively is such a backhanded compliment and completely ignores another excellent aspect of his game which is to set up his teammates. He makes several scoring chance passes a game. And it's not a fluke. He has excellent vision and IQ.

No its not, hes great at it. You just describe a transition scheme that is used throughout the lineup.

Lol at his IQ though. Unsure why its so important to defend every single aspect of Slafs game. No hes not a high IQ player and never will be, full stop. Hes a decent passer but relies on set plays to do so, which is why he has a bit of a higher turnover rate on passes. This is known league-wide and heavily discussed in the media.

The great thing is that hes a good player despite his IQ shortcomings.

Also lol at a backhand compliment when someone says hes great at something lmao.

 

[Andy]

Lol at his IQ though. Unsure why its so important to defend every single aspect of Slafs game. No hes not a high IQ player and never will be, full stop. Hes a decent passer but relies on set plays to do so,

I think this eval is completely laughable. It's straight up bad faith.

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

People still on the low IQ bullshit after last games,
He was decking defenders everywhere making great plays.
Collected & effective, a total pro.

Start an argument around his skating i don't know give yourself a chance to not be ridiculous.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think this eval is completely laughable. It's straight up bad faith.

sigh.

I just compared Slaf to one of the best forward in the game, said he was great defensively AND at digging pucks up and its still bad faith?

This board straight up sucks.

 

[Hannibal]

I wish he would let out angry Slaf more often. Thats my only complain.

He’s gonna be a beast.