Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky Discussion

[Pazucha]

Damn this thread is even worse than when he had like only 10 points in a season, and Hoffman was one of your best forwards.

You are about to clinch a playoff spot with one of the youngest teams in the league. And I am sorry for breaking it to you but he is one of the reasons you have a chance playing in the playoff in the first place.

And what's even more laughable is that you got lucky in drafting the true 2022 #1OA in Hutson but you still come here bitching about why is Slafkovsky not more like Demidov?

Why cant you be happy that you ended up with two different types of players?

 

[CzarDemidov]

but you still come here bitching about why is Slafkovsky not more like Demidov?

Who is bitching about this? What an absurd digression.

Can we talk about Slafkovsky?

Do you have any thoughts on Slaf firing less than 2 SoG over the season? Or how he's lost both SoG and TOI year on year?

Any thoughts on his 11th ranked PP production despite being given the 2nd most PP TOI/GP ?

 

[waitin425]

2nd straight 50 point season. Leads the team in hits. We need to look to Slaf to elevate his play next year to 60+ points and continue to play the physical game.

That would be exactly what we need him for.

 

[Dach Vader]

Absolutely,

let’s build the ultimate playoff juggernaut by icing a roster full of undersized, pure skill players under 6 feet tall. Because hey, that *always* works out when the games get tougher. Forget grit, forget board battles, and definitely forget throwing hits! What we *really* need is a top six that treats physical play like a contagious disease!

 

[Andy]

He's got 2 points, 1 goal and 10 shots in his last 6 games.

Slaf has had 10 goals, 20 points and 60 shots in 25 games since four nations. That is a 32goal and 65 point pace. For reference, Caufield also has 20 points, 11 goals and 67 shots in the same time frame.

Not sure why you just chose the last 6 games.

The scrutiny over Slaf is quite intense and the narrative of his detractors is not quite lining up with his performance. In fact, we're at the point where folks are underselling his contributions to the first line.

 

[Andy]

Even more insane would be Michkov doing his breakout party tonight. How about showing us what he’s made of now!

Michkov stat line against Columbus last night:

0g 0A 0shots.

Quite the breakout party.

 

[Kojo]

Michkov stat line against Columbus last night:

0g 0A 0shots.

Quite the breakout party.

20 minutes played and he did nothing. He's also -4 with only 2pts in his last 5 games playing top minutes.

If he was an Habs I know someone who would criticize him constantly.

 

[CzarDemidov]

Michkov stat line against Columbus last night:

0g 0A 0shots.

Quite the breakout party.

Michkov has had 8 goals, 24 points and 81 shots in his last 25 games. That is a 26goal and 78 point pace.

Not sure why you just chose the last game for him and the last 25 games for Slaf -- what is the point exactly? Use the same ruler to measure things you want to compare.

No one would argue Slaf is currently ahead of Michkov and hopefully no one tries to argue this. Just move on. There's lots to discuss about Slaf and Slaf alone.

20 minutes played and he did nothing. He's also -4 with only 2pts in his last 5 games playing top minutes.

If he was an Habs I know someone who would criticize him constantly.

Slaf has 2 points in his last 5gp too. Why are you complaining so much?

 

[Kojo]

Michkov has had 8 goals, 24 points and 81 shots in his last 25 games. That is a 26goal and 78 point pace.

Not sure why you just chose the last game for him and the last 25 games for Slaf -- what is the point exactly? Use the same ruler to measure things you want to compare.

No one would argue Slaf is currently ahead of Michkov and hopefully no one tries to argue this. Just move on. There's lots to discuss about Slaf and Slaf alone.


Slaf has 2 points in his last 5gp too. Why are you complaining so much?

Go post in the Michkov thread is what I'm saying. If you like him so much why are you here?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Michkov stat line against Columbus last night:

0g 0A 0shots.

Quite the breakout party.

Yep. What a jackass. Freaking guy couldn’t score for us when we really needed it.

 

[CzarDemidov]

Go post in the Michkov thread is what I'm saying. If you like him so much why are you here?

I love every exciting young player. I didn't cite Michkov, your buddy did. There's no crying in the Slafkovsky thread. Next year he's getting 8m a season and will likely lose his PP1 spot. You'll never survive here if you're going to be this soft.

 

[Kojo]

I love every exciting young player. I didn't cite Michkov, your buddy did. There's no crying in the Slafkovsky thread. Next year he's getting 8m a season and will likely lose his PP1 spot. You'll never survive here if you're going to be this soft.

I'm hardcore bro, don't speak to me like that.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Michkov has had 8 goals, 24 points and 81 shots in his last 25 games. That is a 26goal and 78 point pace.

Not sure why you just chose the last game for him and the last 25 games for Slaf -- what is the point exactly? Use the same ruler to measure things you want to compare.

No one would argue Slaf is currently ahead of Michkov and hopefully no one tries to argue this. Just move on. There's lots to discuss about Slaf and Slaf alone.


Slaf has 2 points in his last 5gp too. Why are you complaining so much?

Slaf isn’t Michkov. Okay. And?

Why do you cherry pick the last six games vs his play since 4 Nations?

 

[FerrisRox]

Also has comparable numbers to Yakupov and Galchenyuk, this means absolutely nothing.

Yakupov's career high was 33 points in a season. How is that "comparable?"

 

[Andy]

Michkov has had 8 goals, 24 points and 81 shots in his last 25 games. That is a 26goal and 78 point pace.

Not sure why you just chose the last game for him and the last 25 games for Slaf -- what is the point exactly? Use the same ruler to measure things you want to compare.

No one would argue Slaf is currently ahead of Michkov and hopefully no one tries to argue this. Just move on. There's lots to discuss about Slaf and Slaf alone.


Slaf has 2 points in his last 5gp too. Why are you complaining so much?

You’re conflating the message of two different posts.

One of my posts responded to someone who took a 6 game sample size.

The other post is mocking someone who wants Michkov to stick it to the Habs.

Slaf and Michkov weren’t even selected in the same draft so comparing them is useless you have an agenda

 

[Pazucha]

You'll never survive here if you're going to be this soft.

Dude you were crying on twitter that nobody likes your takes on this forum and that you had to take 5 months off because of that.

 

[Kennerback]

Who is bitching about this? What an absurd digression.

Can we talk about Slafkovsky?

Do you have any thoughts on Slaf firing less than 2 SoG over the season? Or how he's lost both SoG and TOI year on year?
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Any thoughts on his 11th ranked PP production despite being given the 2nd most PP TOI/GP ?
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Is this the PP? I have thoughts about that. Maybe we could replace Slaf with Dvorak? He’s doing much better! lol

We need to compare apple with apples. Net Front x other 4 positions. If we replace Michkov with Slaf on our #1 PP, the number one difference is the first column would drop from 78 GP to 25-35. The rest of Michkov’s time would be spent in IR. He’d also have a very short NHL career. And everyone else’s PPP/60 would collapse.

Slaf has a great one-timer on the PP, if he was allowed to use it off the right half-wall, he would be much more successful than Dach and Caufield did there, and Dach and Caufield season would have been spent in the IR if playing net front (in Dach’s case it’s a moot point as he’s injured with something else). Alas, he was never allowed even if it was his strong preference, and despite having been most productive there. As a good soldier, he took his least favorite position on the PP, because he’s the only one that can play it and no one else wants to.

 

[habdynasty]

Dude you were crying on twitter that nobody likes your takes on this forum and that you had to take 5 months off because of that.

He/ she is scorned. Slaf will never marry her.

 

[FerrisRox]

Dude you were crying on twitter that nobody likes your takes on this forum and that you had to take 5 months off because of that.

Did I miss this five month sabbatical?

I seem to recall him announcing he was leaving but returning with a new name shortly after.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You’re conflating the message of two different posts.

One of my posts responded to someone who took a 6 game sample size.

The other post is mocking someone who wants Michkov to stick it to the Habs.

Slaf and Michkov weren’t even selected in the same draft so comparing them is useless you have an agenda

People have to realize that you can only draft what’s available. We’d have taken Bedard first overall but he wasn’t in that draft…

Some posters have started saying that Slaf is no Demidov… well no kidding. Of course he isn’t. And he’s not Cellebrini either. But again, those guys weren’t available in that draft.

Fortunately for us - and Slaf - the pressure will be off him somewhat because we’ve managed to find other stars. Hutson will be - bar none - the best player in that draft and Demidov will likely be a superstar player. Slaf doesn’t have to be a saviour, he just has to be a good forward with some physical aspect to his game.

He may not put up the points of a Cooley but it’s the same situation there that it is with Reinbacher over Michkov, you’re building the best TEAM. You can’t be a bunch of skilled small forwards with no D and win anything. Fortunately our GM understands this even if some posters do not.

 

[CzarDemidov]

Dude you were crying on twitter that nobody likes your takes on this forum and that you had to take 5 months off because of that.

What in the world -- no I didn't. Stick to hockey bobo

You’re conflating the message of two different posts.

One of my posts responded to someone who took a 6 game sample size.

The other post is mocking someone who wants Michkov to stick it to the Habs.

Slaf and Michkov weren’t even selected in the same draft so comparing them is useless you have an agenda

So your agenda is 6 game samples BAD... 25 game samples GOOD... but 1 game samples GOOD?

So players from different draft cohorts must never be compared or only when it is favourable to your favourite player? And undrafted players ?

 

[Andy]

What in the world -- no I didn't. Stick to hockey bobo


So your agenda is 6 game samples BAD... 25 game samples GOOD... but 1 game samples GOOD?

So players from different draft cohorts must never be compared or only when it is favourable to your favourite player? And undrafted players ?

No it’s not my agenda at all. Again you’re so deep into this slaf obsession that you can’t even read posts anymore.

My Michkov post was simply mocking a poster hoping he’d break out against the Columbus. I couldn’t give a shit about Michkov.

My reference to the last 6 games is engaging with another poster who took the most narrow of sample sizes to problematize Slaf’s performance.

Stop in with the sophisms. I don’t even know why I’m wasting my words here to explain something so obvious

 

[CzarDemidov]

My reference to the last 6 games is engaging with another poster who took the most narrow of sample sizes to problematize Slaf’s performance.

Six games is the slide in performance we've suffered, since the Flyers game right. Among other players Slafkovsky didn't step up (he's still young, be patient, he needs time, he's a monster, he's actually very good) and now we're pushed to the edge. Hope he serves up crow tonight.

 

[Andy]

Six games is the slide in performance we've suffered, since the Flyers game right. Among other players Slafkovsky didn't step up (he's still young, be patient, he needs time, he's a monster, he's actually very good) and now we're pushed to the edge. Hope he serves up crow tonight.

The fact that you still can’t distinguish the two posts is kind of sad.

Such an unhealthy obsession

 

[CzarDemidov]

The fact that you still can’t distinguish the two posts is kind of sad.

Such an unhealthy obsession

I'm not distinguishing between any of your posts or whatever, let's move forward.

Let's speak clearly -- I think it's fair to look at the most recent six game sample because that is when the Habs train started hitting the skids. If you insist to look as far back as the 4nations that's fair too but doesn't give any information about how Slaf plays in the most important games or when his linemate Suzuki is in less-than-stellar form. He's young and Suzuki is terrific, so deferring to Suzuki is to be expected but if Slaf would just shoot the puck more it would help a lot.