Player Discussion Juraj Slafkovsky discussion

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I know he is young but I expected a but more in year 3. He looks slower and sluggish. He is incredibly soft for a 230 pound player. I hope he steps it up next year when his new contract kicks in. It was difficult not to notice how insignificant he was last night.
 
Well, he has been disappointing. It seems like he is trying, but just not getting there.
He's been underwhelming but not terrible.

Still think he was the right pick. He had such a great second half last year I was hoping it'd carry over but this is par for the course when developing young players.

Again, it will be years before we know if he was the right pick or not. But he's got all the tools to be a special player. He just needs to put it together. We've seen he can do it. He just needs to do it consistently.
 
People laughed at me that when i said he needed seasoning in the OHL and AHL before jumping into the NHL.
Guy was learning basic hockey in the NHL. It was obvious he was bad from the rookie camp
Habs need to be more patient with their young players, let them all marinate in lower leagues until they dominate. I agree that Slaf would have been better served there as the pace is a bit slower, in the end he will still develop fine though.
 
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I know he is young but I expected a but more in year 3. He looks slower and sluggish. He is incredibly soft for a 230 pound player. I hope he steps it up next year when his new contract kicks in. It was difficult not to notice how insignificant he was last night.
I'd bump Dach to see if he's any better than he was the first time we tried it. He had no game at that point.

Slaf has become too reliant on his line mates and needs to drive more play on his own.
 
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for all the "concern" about Slaf, might be good for posters to familiarize themselves with the trajectory of some of the current top players in the league...

Mackinnon D2 & D3 = 90 points (Slaf is pacing to hit 94)
Kucherov D3 NHL career total - 38 points (Slaf, 89 and counting)

it's one thing to recognize the gaps in his current game... it's another to assume that because he isn't following some hockey stick upward trajectory that he's destined to disappoint.

chill... there's lots of time to worry about the sky falling.

my bet... the 4 nations layoff is just what the doctor ordered and he'll finish the season off with a similar, if not better, run than the one he had in the back 3rd of last season

Future is bright :cool:
 


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On Tomy Marinaro's podcast, they talk about an interview Kent Hughes gave to Snake Boisvert, where he supposedly told Slaf what the organization expects of him.


here's the interview BTW. i haven't listened to it yet as i'm at work.

 
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I will say it again...wait until he is fully physically developed and has 200+ games of experience and he will be overwhelming for Dmen throughout the league. The kid is a force in waiting.

I know he is young but I expected a but more in year 3. He looks slower and sluggish. He is incredibly soft for a 230 pound player. I hope he steps it up next year when his new contract kicks in. It was difficult not to notice how insignificant he was last night.

Life comes at you fast.
 
On Tomy Marinaro's podcast, they talk about an interview Kent Hughes gave to Snake Boisvert, where he supposedly told Slaf what the organization expects of him.
Here’s an NHL spot you didn’t earn
Here’s a top line spot you didn’t earn
Here’s a 56m USD guaranteed contract you didn’t earn

By the way, we’re expecting you to earn it!
 
238lbs as a rookie - and many thought “just wait a couple years, he’ll be a monster”.

Now he’s slimmed down to 225. Same as Brady Tkachuk. BT an inch taller.

Is that what we’re hoping for here? BT is nastier and has more skill. Maybe Slaf can be a kinder, more gentle version.

One thing that has to be adjusted is his pace. He’s slower than last year. I don’t know if it’s conditioning or a nagging injury or if he’s overthinking. Start by fixing that.

Also, he needs to find his identity. A passer? A shooter? A banger? Needs to work on his shot and throw his weight around a lot more.
 
238lbs as a rookie - and many thought “just wait a couple years, he’ll be a monster”.

Now he’s slimmed down to 225. Same as Brady Tkachuk. BT an inch taller.

Is that what we’re hoping for here? BT is nastier and has more skill. Maybe Slaf can be a kinder, more gentle version.

One thing that has to be adjusted is his pace. He’s slower than last year. I don’t know if it’s conditioning or a nagging injury or if he’s overthinking. Start by fixing that.

Also, he needs to find his identity. A passer? A shooter? A banger? Needs to work on his shot and throw his weight around a lot more.
Playing big/mean is a mindset, not a size thing which is something I don't think Slaf has or will have moving forward. I think it will improve with confidence and experience but I don't see him as a crash, boom, banger in our future. He'll be a puck protector more than that of a physical force. I think of guys like Draisaitl, Rantanen, etc...who use their body to create plays and space, rather than removing players from play. He won't put up their numbers of course, but that style of play. Just my take on the kid.
 
Mackinnon D2 & D3 = 90 points (Slaf is pacing to hit 94)
Why are you extrapolating Slaf’s production (pace) when he’s already played ~ the same number of games as Mac in those 2 seasons?

It’s Mac 90, Slaf 79.

First 3 seasons:

Mac - 58pts / 82GP
Slaf - 42pts / 82GP

Playing big/mean is a mindset, not a size thing which is something I don't think Slaf has or will have moving forward. I think it will improve with confidence and experience but I don't see him as a crash, boom, banger in our future. He'll be a puck protector more than that of a physical force. I think of guys like Draisaitl, Rantanen, etc...who use their body to create plays and space, rather than removing players from play. He won't put up their numbers of course, but that style of play. Just my take on the kid.
100%

… but there’s certain situations where he just has to throw a hit. And at times he has to be proactive in making contact to protect himself (he’s improving that, but still work TBD).
 
There is like 4 powerforward mean guy in the league that puts up 60 + points , I am open to being challenged on that.

Brady T is the only guy that plays mean and big and produces at a high level , his brother and JT Miller also play mean but they aren't physically overwhelming forces.

Everyone else like Tom Wilson or Anders Lee are like 50-60 point players.

It's a rare archetype and I hope he can grow into it a little bit better.

My only issue is the contract and the mental shift it can bring to an athlete like Slaf. We will see if he has it in him
 

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