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Voight said:
nypost.com

Scott Boras reveals first clues about Juan Soto’s free agency with Mets, Yankees interest heating up

Scott Boras is starting to let out some morsels of information in the Juan Soto sweepstakes.
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Toronto Blue Jays, Tampa Bay Rays Among Teams to Call Juan Soto in Free Agency

According to Jon Heyman of the New York Post, the Toronto Blue Jays and Tampa Bay Rays are two of the teams to call and inquire about Juan Soto in free agency.
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I don't know why the Rays leaked this. Nobody believes it.
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Blue Jays will be the brides maids again
 
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If i had to guess, he stays in New York.

Just a question of which part of the city really.
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I'd imagine it comes down to how he feels about pressure / the media.

Significantly less of that if you play for the Metropolitans, even with Daddy Warbucks as their owner.
 
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Voight said:
I'd imagine it comes down to how he feels about pressure / the media.

Significantly less of that if you play for the Metropolitans, even with Daddy Warbucks as their owner.
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Don't think Soto is a guy who cares about pressure too much. Just gonna come down to money. Yankees are of course loaded, but Uncle Steve has shown that he will pay over the top for the players that he wants.
 
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Voight said:
I'd imagine it comes down to how he feels about pressure / the media.

Significantly less of that if you play for the Metropolitans, even with Daddy Warbucks as their owner.
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The Yankees own NY (in terms of fanbase/following/narrative etc.) so there would be pressure for dipping out from NYY and going to 'little brother' on a historic contract.

I think he stays with Yankees. I don't think Mets are any closer to a World Series than they are and I think the Yankees will do whatever it takes to match what Mets might try to spend on him.

GIN ANTONIC said:
Don't think Soto is a guy who cares about pressure too much. Just gonna come down to money. Yankees are of course loaded, but Uncle Steve has shown that he will pay over the top for the players that he wants.
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He's a 'gamer' and wants to win as well (yes cliche, but true). So who he believes can better win a world series in neat future is also a factor.
 
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GIN ANTONIC said:
Don't think Soto is a guy who cares about pressure too much. Just gonna come down to money. Yankees are of course loaded, but Uncle Steve has shown that he will pay over the top for the players that he wants.
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Fair, but I don't see Cohen outbidding the Yanks, they just don't let their stay players walk in free agency. & given the age of their core, the time to compete is now.
 
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GIN ANTONIC said:
If the reports out there are true, the Mets made an offer of $660m so that's a pretty strong opening position.
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Very strong. But they all think Yankees will match any offer.

More of our panel agreed on where Soto will sign than on how much money he'll get. A common belief from our respondents was that the Yankees will match (or come close enough to matching) any number agent Scott Boras brings them to keep Soto in pinstripes. The message we heard from our insiders was clear: The Yankees don't let stars walk. That happens to other teams.
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GIN ANTONIC said:
If the reports out there are true, the Mets made an offer of $660m so that's a pretty strong opening position.
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I know he is a great hitter and has stayed pretty healthy, but I would be nervous giving that kind of deal to a guy who plays defense like that already at such a young age, that is a lot of money for a guy who is going to have to be a DH for probably half or more of the contract, of course money keeps going up, and it's not my money, but I bet the Yankees regret taking on the Stanton albatross contract all 45-70 times a year they have to pencil his name into the lineup
 
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I know he is a great hitter and has stayed pretty healthy, but I would be nervous giving that kind of deal to a guy who plays defense like that already at such a young age, that is a lot of money for a guy who is going to have to be a DH for probably half or more of the contract, of course money keeps going up, and it's not my money, but I bet the Yankees regret taking on the Stanton albatross contract all 45-70 times a year they have to pencil his name into the lineup
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Stanton was absolutely fantastic in this postseason 7 HR, and has a career .994 OPS in the postseason. it's hard to think about regret with him right now.
 
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they have paid him 199 million and gotten 9 WAR and 663 games in 7 years, and still owe him almost 90 million more, it's not that hard to think about regret
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Not everything is about WAR and $$/value. He's always hit HR when he's healthy and always steps up in the postseason. He was a savior in this playoffs for the Yanks.

Always is accountable to media when he slumps, and his teammates love him.

Stanton is not a problem for the Yankees. And no Yankee fan would tell you they regret acquiring him esp after what he just did in this postseason and multiple postseasons for NYY.
 
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Not everything is about WAR and $$/value. He's always hit HR when he's healthy and always steps up in the postseason. He was a savior in this playoffs for the Yanks.

Always is accountable to media when he slumps, and his teammates love him.

Stanton is not a problem for the Yankees. And no Yankee fan would tell you they regret acquiring him esp after what he just did in this postseason and multiple postseasons for NYY.
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I still think they could put that 30 mil to better use, I guess when you have a bottomless bank account you can afford to pay full time dollars for part time players
 
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Stanton has been very bad for three years running. Getting a good hot streak at the right time is nice, but that's all it is.
 
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GIN ANTONIC said:
Ya there’s not a sensible Yankees fan out there who if given the option to get rid of Stanton and his salary for nothing wouldn’t take that deal
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With double negatives it's hard to understand if you're saying the fans would release Stanton for nothing or would not?
 
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Yeah, tough to commit 30-35% of your payroll to one guy, or in the Pirates case 50-60%, something tells me they won't even be calling to say hello
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Yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised the Royals are checking in since the new owner has seemed to have upped their spending, and with their push for a new ballpark, he'd be an awesome chip for them to get it.

That said, you're right - it's tough to roster Soto unless you're regularly pushing or exceeding $300m in payroll.
 
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GIN ANTONIC said:
If given the option to release Stanton and his contract for free any (sensible) Yankees fan would happily do that.
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After the postseason he just had 7HR, and his career postseason numbers (.994 OPS) that's a wild proclomation.

I'm in the market and think you're way off and don't think any fans would want to just jettison Stanton just because, right now. Despite the struggles, fans were enamored with him this postseason

Plus, it looks like the Marlins start to pay $10M a year of his final 3 years of his contract starting this season, so the contract becomes not *as* bad from a Yankee perspective.
 
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After the postseason he just had 7HR, and his career postseason numbers (.994 OPS) that's a wild proclomation.

I'm in the market and think you're way off and don't think any fans would want to just jettison Stanton just because, right now. Despite the struggles, fans were enamored with him this postseason

Plus, it looks like the Marlins start to pay $10M a year of his final 3 years of his contract starting this season, so the contract becomes not *as* bad from a Yankee perspective.
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Of course Yankees fans are in love with Stanton after the postseason he had but facts are facts and stats are stats. He's been a complete albatross and a complete waste of payroll over the course of the contract and it's not like he's got only 1 year left or something. This is why I said 'sensible' Yankees fan. You could get such a better player or players for that $20-30mil per year
 
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