Rumor: JT Miller to the Rangers? (Part 2)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

 

[AirGut]

I think the idea behind getting Zibanejad in Vancouver would be to help prevent their young franchise SWEDISH centerman from being run out of town. Despite what HF believes Mika has a lot more real-world value than you might think. Lest we forget the man is 31, not 41. There is still plenty of time for a career renaissance once he's out of the pressure cooker and bright lights of NY. He does not have NIL value, sorry HF. If there's a guy interested in Mika, it's Allvin.

Tack on Schneider and maybe the 6th overall pick and you're looking at a pretty generous package. In my opinion it's a bit of a slight over-payment which is where I think a D prospect would also be an ask from NYR to even things out.


Zibanejad + Schneider + 2025 1st (6th OVR currently & dropping)
for
Miller + Willander

It's a clean trade.


-laughed at by the exact type of HF armchair GM's I'm talking about.

 

[canadianmagpie]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

We're not begging you to take him. If we're going to move one of Pettersson/Miller, then I would prefer that it be Miller. The Rangers have been interested in the past, thus rumours start. There's no begging though.

Desharnais on the other hand is someone I'd beg for a team to take.

I think the idea behind getting Zibanejad in Vancouver would be to help prevent their young franchise SWEDISH centerman from being run out of town. Despite what HF believes Mika has a lot more real-world value than you might think. Lest we forget the man is 31, not 41. There is still plenty of time for a career renaissance once he's out of the pressure cooker and bright lights of NY. He does not have NIL value, sorry HF. If there's a guy interested in Mika, it's Allvin.

Tack on Schneider and maybe the 6th overall pick and you're looking at a pretty generous package. In my opinion it's a bit of a slight over-payment which is where I think a LHD prospect would also be an ask from NYR to even things out.


Zibanejad + Schneider + 2025 1st (6th OVR currently & dropping)
for
Miller + Willander

It's a clean trade.

No chance Willander is move unless it's a guaranteed top 5 pick

 

[Hammman]

I think the idea behind getting Zibanejad in Vancouver would be to help prevent their young franchise SWEDISH centerman from being run out of town. Despite what HF believes Mika has a lot more real-world value than you might think. Lest we forget the man is 31, not 41. There is still plenty of time for a career renaissance once he's out of the pressure cooker and bright lights of NY. He does not have NIL value, sorry HF. If there's a guy interested in Mika, it's Allvin.

Tack on Schneider and maybe the 6th overall pick and you're looking at a pretty generous package. In my opinion it's a bit of a slight over-payment which is where I think a LHD prospect would also be an ask from NYR to even things out.


Zibanejad + Schneider + 2025 1st (6th OVR currently & dropping)
for
Miller + Willander

It's a clean trade.

Willander is a RHD and is the Canucks top prospect. You don't add him in to balance out a 'slight over-payment'. Did you mix him up with another prospect?

 

[krutovsdonut]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

tell you what. we've got this great guy logjammed in the minors. can't even get into an ahl game due to bad luck so we'll give you a deal. we'll give you samuel blais if you move to st louis and stop posting in this thread.

it's a clean trade.

I think the idea behind getting Zibanejad in Vancouver would be to help prevent their young franchise SWEDISH centerman from being run out of town. Despite what HF believes Mika has a lot more real-world value than you might think. Lest we forget the man is 31, not 41. There is still plenty of time for a career renaissance once he's out of the pressure cooker and bright lights of NY. He does not have NIL value, sorry HF. If there's a guy interested in Mika, it's Allvin.

Tack on Schneider and maybe the 6th overall pick and you're looking at a pretty generous package. In my opinion it's a bit of a slight over-payment which is where I think a LHD prospect would also be an ask from NYR to even things out.


Zibanejad + Schneider + 2025 1st (6th OVR currently & dropping)
for
Miller + Willander

It's a clean trade.

you get the same deal as the last guy.

also a clean trade.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

NYR has reportedly called Vancouver about Miller over the the last two trade deadlines and Chris Drury would "do bad things to get Miller" but it's the Canucks begging you to take Miller?

He's not an anchor and we don't really want to move him. Get real.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Miller is a really good player. But why doesn't New York try to get younger if they're retooling. They need to get younger and faster.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

NYR has reportedly called Vancouver about Miller over the the last two trade deadlines and Chris Drury would "do bad things to get Miller" but it's the Canucks begging you to take Miller?

He's not an anchor and we don't really want to move him. Get real.

Who are you trying to fool?

None of us have a say in any trade. I find it funny that you and some others can't even have enough respect for the other fanbase you are discussing this with to be honest about your team's intentions. Again, it's not like being honest here would jeopardize Vancouver's hand. None of us have any say in a trade.

Your team is looking to trade either Miller or Petterson, and it seems a lot more likely to be Miller. Rangers fans aren't denying that we want Zibanejad gone and he has very negative value and Drury might have some fetish for acquiring JTM.

But don't act like we'd have to knock your socks off with an offer for it to be considered. You guys are absolutely hoping to find some solution to your JTM/Petey problem and might've wanted to dump JTM anyway, so there's incentive on both sides here. Let's not beat around the bush on that.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Miller is a really good player. But why doesn't New York try to get younger if they're retooling. They need to get younger and faster.

This is what literally every NYR fan is saying.

Vancouver fans think they're going to get a bunch of prospects and roster players for a 32 year old forward with a big contract.

This isn't happening if Zibanejad isn't going the other way. If you don't want Zibanejad, we don't want Miller.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

Nobody is begging to swap Miller for Zib. In fact, I don’t think anyone is begging to move Miller and there’s not even any guarantee he’d waive to go back there. These rumours are all based off Drury’s supposed desire to acquire Miller going back to last season.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

As a neutral fan:

Zibanejad+K'Andre Miller for JT MIller+Myers/Desharnais

 

[Diamonddog01]

Who are you trying to fool?

None of us have a say in any trade. I find it funny that you and some others can't even have enough respect for the other fanbase you are discussing this with to be honest about your team's intentions.

Your team is looking to trade either Miller or Petterson, and it seems a lot more likely to be Miller. Rangers fans aren't denying that we want Zibanejad gone and he has very negative value and Drury might have some fetish for acquiring JTM.

But don't act like we're desperate to trade for him and we'd have to knock your socks off with an offer for it to be considered. You guys are absolutely hoping to find some solution to your JTM/Petey problem and might've wanted to dump JTM anyway, so there's incentive on both sides here. Let's not beat around the bush on that.

"Who am I trying to fool?" WTF are you you on about. We don't want Zibanejad and more importantly several reporters have stated the Canucks are not taking Zibanejad. Drop it.

 

[Breakers]

It;s clear who is begging

and it sure as hell isnt vancouver

 

[Johnsie19]

A first rounder goes with the Anchor that is Zibanejad at 8.5 X 3 years after this current one.

People on here are so emotional. The last 20 games are who you are always. Everyone on that team seems to be struggling. I think Zibanejad has established that he is a top 6 center.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

"Who am I trying to fool?" WTF are you you on about. We don't want Zibanejad and more importantly several reporters have stated the Canucks are not taking Zibanejad. Drop it.

So then maybe your fans should drop the idea of Miller to the Rangers.

This thread was started by a fan of your team. Your fans keep asking for our best younger players. Your fanbase wants to dump your trash and fleece us.

If Zibanejad isn't involved, we aren't trading for Miller. Think it's that simple.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I think the idea behind getting Zibanejad in Vancouver would be to help prevent their young franchise SWEDISH centerman from being run out of town. Despite what HF believes Mika has a lot more real-world value than you might think. Lest we forget the man is 31, not 41. There is still plenty of time for a career renaissance once he's out of the pressure cooker and bright lights of NY. He does not have NIL value, sorry HF. If there's a guy interested in Mika, it's Allvin.

Tack on Schneider and maybe the 6th overall pick and you're looking at a pretty generous package. In my opinion it's a bit of a slight over-payment which is where I think a LHD prospect would also be an ask from NYR to even things out.


Zibanejad + Schneider + 2025 1st (6th OVR currently & dropping)
for
Miller + Willander

It's a clean trade.

When you say “real world value” it seems like a euphemism for “sells stolen merchandise out of the trunk of his car(s).”

 

[thefutures]

Jesus christ miller and willander with the nucks still taking zib full freight. Smh

 

[Alluckks]

Reading most Vancouver fans in here is hilarious

If your guy with a full NMC is forcing the trade out, you aren't getting what you think you are. Most of these proposal wouldn't get you what you are writing if the guy had zero trade protection at all

 

[krutovsdonut]

Who are you trying to fool?

None of us have a say in any trade. I find it funny that you and some others can't even have enough respect for the other fanbase you are discussing this with to be honest about your team's intentions. Again, it's not like being honest here would jeopardize Vancouver's hand. None of us have any say in a trade.

Your team is looking to trade either Miller or Petterson, and it seems a lot more likely to be Miller. Rangers fans aren't denying that we want Zibanejad gone and he has very negative value and Drury might have some fetish for acquiring JTM.

But don't act like we'd have to knock your socks off with an offer for it to be considered. You guys are absolutely hoping to find some solution to your JTM/Petey problem and might've wanted to dump JTM anyway, so there's incentive on both sides here. Let's not beat around the bush on that.

ok, final offer: sammy blais, libor hajek and vitali kravtsov for you to leave this thread.

chuckle.

also, forget who are we trying to fool, who are you trying to gaslight? you don't get to demand the canucks be crazy enough to overvalue your assets so you get miller in return for an older worse player having a worse season on a worse contract. you don't get to demand that canucks fan accept the paradigm that we're going to move miller for some old dude who nobody else in the league will even talk to you aboiut trading. there is zero evidence to suggest the canucks are locked into such utter bullshit. the basis of this thread is a biz rumour to the effect that drury badly wants miller. we're responding to that.

now go harass preds fans to give you stamkos for your junk.

 

[wetcoast]

People on here are so emotional. The last 20 games are who you are always. Everyone on that team seems to be struggling. I think Zibanejad has established that he is a top 6 center.

I've watched him pretty closely the last couple of years and the cliff is near, especially with that contract.

Also the top 6 center thing sounds great but he is closer to 64th than 32nd and falling.

There would be zero interest or trade value for him given that contract.

So then maybe your fans should drop the idea of Miller to the Rangers.

This thread was started by a fan of your team. Your fans keep asking for our best younger players. Your fanbase wants to dump your trash and fleece us.

If Zibanejad isn't involved, we aren't trading for Miller. Think it's that simple.

I think that you will find that most Canuck fans agree that they don't want to throw the Rangers a lifeline here and Jim Benning isn't the GM anymore and good luck with Zibanaejad as you will need it bigtime.

 

[Canucks LB]

 

[Mrfenn92]

Say the name you knock off Weekes forehead

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

This is what literally every NYR fan is saying.

Vancouver fans think they're going to get a bunch of prospects and roster players for a 32 year old forward with a big contract.

This isn't happening if Zibanejad isn't going the other way. If you don't want Zibanejad, we don't want Miller.

It's going to be very difficult to move Zibanejed without retaining. The guy has really gone off the deep end the last 2 seasons now.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I understand Canucks fans not wanting Zibanejad. Totally understandable.

But you are also basically begging us to take Miller from you. He's a player you guys really want to move. Let's not beat around the bush about that.

So yes, I won't say the bad contracts there equal out. They don't, but please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and act like you don't have an anchor (not just value for play, but personalities to manage) on your team also.

Who are you trying to fool?

None of us have a say in any trade. I find it funny that you and some others can't even have enough respect for the other fanbase you are discussing this with to be honest about your team's intentions. Again, it's not like being honest here would jeopardize Vancouver's hand. None of us have any say in a trade.

Your team is looking to trade either Miller or Petterson, and it seems a lot more likely to be Miller. Rangers fans aren't denying that we want Zibanejad gone and he has very negative value and Drury might have some fetish for acquiring JTM.

But don't act like we'd have to knock your socks off with an offer for it to be considered. You guys are absolutely hoping to find some solution to your JTM/Petey problem and might've wanted to dump JTM anyway, so there's incentive on both sides here. Let's not beat around the bush on that.

There's no dishonestly.

We (as fans) don't want Miller to go, the management doesn't want to move Miller. Its been reported over & over again throughout this drama that management wants Pettersson/Miller to work things out, infact they already thought things were fine with how the team preformed last season, and ultimately they do not want to trade either. They want to contend right now while Quinn is making less than 8M.

Just so we are setting the record straight. That's the honest perspective on our teams intentions. They want to keep the current core together.

I think they are threatening a potential trade of one of them as a wake up call, I think they are frustrated with the season thus-far & Tocchet is frustrated that this relationship needs managing again. I highly doubt their preference is to pull the trigger, as has been the reports, but if it continues this way they are going to start listening. We are in that stage now - but it doesn't mean their preference has changed.

 

[Schennanigans]

They both have NMC’s. Good luck.