Rumor: JT Miller to the Rangers? (Part 2)

[Empoleon8771]

That was my initial reaction. Could it be beneficial for Bedard to have someone like Miller on the team?

Seeing how Miller treated Pettersson as a young guy, probably not.

 

[BHawk21]

Chicago makes no sense for either party.

Chicago could really use him. Would be a huge help for Teravainen and Bedard.

No idea why Miller would waive for Chicago or what the cost would be but it would certainly be a player and contract that would help.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I seem to recall rumors that they were trying to trade Miller before extending him and that even after extending him they were still going to try to trade him. Maybe he’s been told they were going to move him and changed their minds which is why he’s taking a leave.

I think Miller wants to play in the US and was told they were going to try to move him. Maybe he’s would even accept a trade to a rebuilding team like Chicago.

There are plenty of teams in need of a 1C whose windows are closing even if he only plays like one for the next couple of years.

 

[elitepete]

You can have Zibadejad for him. 1 for 1. Otherwise go away and leave us to our retool/rebuild.

Retain 50% on Zibanejad and throw in Schneider, and 2nd, and a conditional 3rd.

 

[Dijock94]

Retain 50% on Zibanejad and throw in Schneider, and 2nd, and a conditional 3rd.

How about no. Why does a team getting into a rebuild even want Miller?

 

[Forsbergaura21]

J.T. Miller Reportedly Only Interested in a Trade to One Specific NHL Team, per Insider

One team is believed to be not only the frontrunner for Vancouver Canucks star J.T. Miller, but appears to be the only option on his mind.

www.hockeypatrol.com

Not sure how reliable is Kypreos?

He think JT will only accept a deal to NYR

 

[UrbanImpact]

Friedman says Vancouver has no interest in Zibanejad being part of any deal, he says if they did that deal would have been done by now (as in NYR has already offered it)

Friedman also says NYR has no interest in trading B Schneider.

There were also reports yesterday from Dhaliwal, that the Canucks arent a fan of K Miller.

So with that said, i believe the big target for the Canucks is Alexis Laferniere. Lots of connections there with Laf and Van with Emily Costanguay being Laf's former Agent and now Assistant GM with Canucks. Deal I can see:

Lafereniere
Chytil
Lindgren

for

JT
Desharnais

Add in picks to make it work value wise...

 

[UnSandvich]

Friedman says Vancouver has no interest in Zibanejad being part of any deal, he says if they did that deal would have been done by now (as in NYR has already offered it)

Friedman also says NYR has no interest in trading B Schneider.

There were also reports yesterday from Dhaliwal, that the Canucks arent a fan of K Miller.

So with that said, i believe the big target for the Canucks is Alexis Laferniere. Lots of connections there with Laf and Van with Emily Costanguay being Laf's former Agent and now Assistant GM with Canucks. Deal I can see:

Lafereniere
Chytil
Lindgren

for

JT
Desharnais

Add in picks to make it work value wise...

lol. Lmao even.

 

[Bankerguy]

to all the Rangers fan's that say "no deal, we should be rebuilding".

I think pretty much everyone would agree with you. IF the plan in indeed to rebuild then trading for a 31 year old stud and giving up young pieces would NOT be the way to go.

however, this is NY, i dont know if ownership would actually be willing to do that. i think the trade proposals in here come with the caveot of "they're not rebuilding, they want to push forward and try to make it work with this squad and an upgrade at 1C'

Actually, has management / ownership actually indicated they are OKAY to rebuild?

 

[Peter Griffin]

How about no. Why does a team getting into a rebuild even want Miller?

Is it Drury and/or Dolan’s plan to rebuild, or just the fans?

 

[UnSandvich]

to all the Rangers fan's that say "no deal, we should be rebuilding".

I think pretty much everyone would agree with you. IF the plan in indeed to rebuild then trading for a 31 year old stud and giving up young pieces would NOT be the way to go.

however, this is NY, i dont know if ownership would actually be willing to do that. i think the trade proposals in here come with the caveot of "they're not rebuilding, they want to push forward and try to make it work with this squad and an upgrade at 1C'

Actually, has management / ownership actually indicated they are OKAY to rebuild?

Brooks has reported that Drury and Laviolette have ownerships full support and that ownership understands the team might need to take a step back to take 2 forward again

 

[UrbanImpact]

Sounds like its getting really close with Van and NYR.

Dhaliwal is the most connected Canuck insider:

He dropped an update about an hour ago saying that there are alot of pieces involved between NYR and Van.

 

[UrbanImpact]

What is the scouting report on Alexis Laferniere? Cant say ive followed too many Ranger games up close.

Is speed an issue? inconsistency? opportunity? linemates?

He is playing at a 45-50 point pace which is definitely underwhelming.

 

[Pure West]

I think Miller wants to play in the US and was told they were going to try to move him. Maybe he’s would even accept a trade to a rebuilding team like Chicago.

I'm confused. After playing 3 years in Canada he decided to sign a 7 year extension to play in Canada again. Odd behaviour for a guy wanting to play in the US.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I'm confused. After playing 3 years in Canada he decided to sign a 7 year extension to play in Canada again. Odd behaviour for a guy wanting to play in the US.

Yes because I remember at the time of his extension there were talks of him not wanting to be there and moving him before they signed him. I remember Vancouver fans being upset at the GM that they weren’t able to trade him but were still confident they’d still be able to trade him either way the extension.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

If Vancouver won't take back Zibanejad there's literally no deal to be had.

Rangers aren't trading picks/prospects/young roster players for Miller without sending salary the other way. That makes no sense at all for them.

If it's determined that both players need a change of scenery for reasons, then the swap with NYR adding a bit for value makes sense. If Vancouver doesn't perceive their locker room issues to be bad enough to move JT for that return then there's simply not a deal to be had.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Thompson isn't entering his prime. His prime already began at least a couple of years ago. He's pretty much as close to 30 as he is to 25.

I shouldn't have used the term entering at all. I'll give you that.

What I mean is, big power forward types routinely develop late. Players around his age, you typically see the players best statistical seasons begin, especially when talking power forwards. So yeah, those seasons in theory are still ahead of him. That's my thought on it anyway.

JT Miller is a beast. He's still a great player. Buffalo would be lucky to add him. He's actually an ideal target for them. The suggestion of doing something around Thompson though is laughable. Teams don't trade 1C in their prime. On top of that he's a really rare skill-set player. Big body, power forward with that can score 40 goals, that's just not happening.

If Vancouver shops Miller, there will be plenty of suitors. The return should be solid. He doesn't hold the trade value to pull Thompson though. Buffalo would want something closer to Elias Pettersson, and rightfully so. Even that I'm not sure they would do. Thompson till 29-30 @ 7m is more valuable IMO than Pettersson locked in @ 11.6m

 

[UrbanImpact]

If Vancouver won't take back Zibanejad there's literally no deal to be had.

Rangers aren't trading picks/prospects/young roster players for Miller without sending salary the other way. That makes no sense at all for them.

If it's determined that both players need a change of scenery for reasons, then the swap with NYR adding a bit for value makes sense. If Vancouver doesn't perceive their locker room issues to be bad enough to move JT for that return then there's simply not a deal to be had.

Laferniere 2.3
Lindgren 4.5
Chytil 4.4

11.2 mil

Miller 8
Desharnais 2
Hoglander 1.1

11.1 mil


Something along those combinations plus draft picks from NYRs side is what this trade will be.

It lines up with Dhaliwals report that Van and NYR are talking multiple pieces in the trade.


Trade is very very close imo.

 

[Bankerguy]

Brooks has reported that Drury and Laviolette have ownerships full support and that ownership understands the team might need to take a step back to take 2 forward again

that's great for NYR

 

[UnSandvich]

that's great for NYR

I agree. It’s the direction they need to go in, and if they do it right it won’t even have to be for too long. Right now they’ve got cap space and retention slots to take advantage of in terms of adding future assets.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Brooks has reported that Drury and Laviolette have ownerships full support and that ownership understands the team might need to take a step back to take 2 forward again

That all goes out the window if we trade for Miller, which will include at least one decent young piece.

 

[TT1]

why is it that i feel like this trade can't happen without 1 side getting absolutely fleeced?

 

[UrbanImpact]

Being reported now too that NYR has tried to trade for JT Miller over the last 2 trade deadlines.

Seems like they have coveted the player for a long time which aligns to Biz saying yesterday that his sources say Drury would do " bad bad things" to get Jt Miller.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Trocheck would have to be the starting point, we'd need a center back.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Imagine the Rangers just kept JT Miller the first time instead of trading him for a sack of dirt and a toothpick