Recalled/Assigned: Joshua to NHL/Neighbors to WHL

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[Bye Bye Blueston]

This is right move under circumstances. If we had more cap room and roster space he could benefit from working with team up here, but game is too fast for him right now.

 

[Thallis]

Right call. He's simply not ready for regular NHL playing time.

 

[PocketNines]

This is the best thing for his development and he’s well ahead of schedule and has to be brimming with confidence. WJC will be fun to see where his game is.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Whomever posted that Neighbours needs to be trained as a top-6 player, not a grinder type is right. We don't want him to get too used to a bottom-6 role. He is still malleable.

 

[Brian39]

He's got nothing to hang his head about. Basically no one thought he had any shot to make the NHL roster out of camp and he wound up starting on opening night. He had some limited success in a very defensive role, he got to spend weeks working with our staff and he put a few NHL paychecks into his bank account. He's a year ahead of schedule and should now know exactly what to work on in the WHL. He faded a bit at the end, but I don't think he looked bad in any of his games.

 

[Stealth JD]

Petro was sent back to juniors twice, and he seemed to have turned out just fine. Good experience for Neighbors to have gained to this point, and a nice bit of cash in the checking account to make it until his next NHL payday. Kid will be back soon enough.

 

[PocketNines]

It’s pathetic to call the captain of our only Cup winner - in which he was outstanding- a “douche”

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Petro was sent back to juniors twice, and he seemed to have turned out just fine. Good experience for Neighbors to have gained to this point, and a nice bit of cash in the checking account to make it until his next NHL payday. Kid will be back soon enough.

I was looking for a few comparable players from the last few drafts and came up with nothing on HockeyDB. Categorically, there aren't any players comparable to Neighbours. Late 1st round winger, from Canadian juniors, not old enough to play in the AHL. His situation appears to be somewhat unique. Not fair to compare him to players drafted earlier than he.

 

[BlueDream]

I’m glad to see this. I’m still excited about Neighbours’ future and this doesn’t change that at all. In a year or 2, he can be a good player for us.

He fell off really quick and just isn’t able to contribute yet so no point in keeping him up here and probably overwhelming him.

We need to get an identity back on our 4th line instead of it just being random parts. Joshua and Sundqvist should help with that.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Good for Neighbours with his nine games but this is the right call.

he’ll get plenty of time to refine his game in a space that won’t be as suffocating. He did as well as any one should have expected him to and he’ll find himself as a more permanent fixture on the roster in the not-to-distant future.

 

[bleedblue1223]

It’s pathetic to call the captain of our only Cup winner - in which he was outstanding- a “douche”

Yeah, the situation is like Pujols for me. Would've liked both to end it here, but both got their big contracts after winning a championship here. We get our first Cup, and he gets someone else to give him a massive contract that they'll eventually regret.

 

[PocketNines]

Yeah, the situation is like Pujols for me. Would've liked both to end it here, but both got their big contracts after winning a championship here. We get our first Cup, and he gets someone else to give him a massive contract that they'll eventually regret.

In a world where they were already locked into Schenn and Faulk, whether or not the contract would age poorly is moot. The Blues supplanted it with the horrific Krug contract, so the Blues didn’t even avoid the situation they just have worse players who will age worse. I find the NMC issue to be an absurd reason to not actually be a contender as we sit here today.

 

[bleedblue1223]

In a world where they were already locked into Schenn and Faulk, whether or not the contract would age poorly is moot. The Blues supplanted it with the horrific Krug contract, so the Blues didn’t even avoid the situation they just have worse players who will age worse. I find the NMC issue to be an absurd reason to not actually be a contender as we sit here today.

Bonuses were an issue as well. Blues were possibly close to acquiring Dougie Hamilton from Calgary, and I believe we were also interested in him when he was in Carolina, but Faulk was the one ultimately moved. I imagine Army knew for awhile that Petro wasn't going to extend here.

 

[PocketNines]

Bonuses were an issue as well. Blues were possibly close to acquiring Dougie Hamilton from Calgary, and I believe we were also interested in him when he was in Carolina, but Faulk was the one ultimately moved. I imagine Army knew for awhile that Petro wasn't going to extend here.

Just a couple weeks ago, and I don’t remember which game or I’d link it, Pietrangelo was asked after a game about when he knew he would not be re-signing and he very believably said he didn’t know until it happened. He almost talked about it like he was still a little surprised.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Just a couple weeks ago, and I don’t remember which game or I’d link it, Pietrangelo was asked after a game about when he knew he would not be re-signing and he very believably said he didn’t know until it happened. He almost talked about it like he was still a little surprised.

Think it was a situation where 1 side knew there was going to be a breakup and the other didn't. I don't think Army was shocked by what Petro's camp wanted in the contract, and that's why he was pursuing other RHD alternatives prior to Petro leaving.

 

[PocketNines]

Think it was a situation where 1 side knew there was going to be a breakup and the other didn't. I don't think Army was shocked by what Petro's camp wanted in the contract, and that's why he was pursuing other RHD alternatives prior to Petro leaving.

If true it remains openly shocking and terrible on Armstrong’s part. But the fact that the only real difference was the bonus structure (they paid a massive bonus for O Reilly) and NMC says to me the decision wasn’t a hockey one it was a business one. Swapping Pietrangelo for Krug is like replacing the center beam of your home with fancy artwork for the same term.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

In a world where they were already locked into Schenn and Faulk, whether or not the contract would age poorly is moot. The Blues supplanted it with the horrific Krug contract, so the Blues didn’t even avoid the situation they just have worse players who will age worse. I find the NMC issue to be an absurd reason to not actually be a contender as we sit here today.

The NMC was red herring perpetrated by Petro camp so they wouldn't look greedy and unreasonable. Petro ask was north of $9mm and Army didn't think he was worth that. That is why he is gone.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Just a couple weeks ago, and I don’t remember which game or I’d link it, Pietrangelo was asked after a game about when he knew he would not be re-signing and he very believably said he didn’t know until it happened. He almost talked about it like he was still a little surprised.

Because he thought Blues would give into his demands. He completely misread situation. So now he can rot in the desert.

 

[PocketNines]

The NMC was red herring perpetrated by Petro camp so they wouldn't look greedy and unreasonable. Petro ask was north of $9mm and Army didn't think he was worth that. That is why he is gone.

Certainly you realize how ridiculous your argument is given that he signed for 50k/year more than Blues offered.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

If true it remains openly shocking and terrible on Armstrong’s part. But the fact that the only real difference was the bonus structure (they paid a massive bonus for O Reilly) and NMC says to me the decision wasn’t a hockey one it was a business one. Swapping Pietrangelo for Krug is like replacing the center beam of your home with fancy artwork for the same term.

Problem with your analogy is that if Petro would have signed for Krug contract he would still be here.

 

[PocketNines]

Problem with your analogy is that if Petro would have signed for Krug contract he would still be here.

The Blues offered him literally 50k difference what fiction are you peddling?

if Vegas would take Krug and Barbashev for Pietrangelo right this second (same salary) Blues would be very serious contenders.

congrats on getting the let’s go Brandon guy to blame me for you bringing up Pietrangelo gee I wonder why that happened

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Certainly you realize how ridiculous your argument is given that he signed for 50k/year more than Blues offered.

First, he signed for $800k/year more than Blues offered. Second, he only signed for that because nobody would meet his price.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

The Blues offered him literally 50k difference what fiction are you peddling?

if Vegas would take Krug and Barbashev for Pietrangelo right this second (same salary) Blues would be very serious contenders.

congrats on getting the let’s go Brandon guy to blame me for you bringing up Pietrangelo gee I wonder why that happened

Blues top offer was $8mm/year, so while you mock my misspelling, you should work on your math.

I didn't get anyone to blame you for anything. Not my style. He came up with that on his own. I'm perfectly capable of calling you out myself when you deserve it.

 

[PocketNines]

First, he signed for $800k/year more than Blues offered. Second, he only signed for that because nobody would meet his price. Logic isn't your friend.

7x8 was the top Blues offer?