Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3

[Agent Zuuuub]

I didn't get to see the Isles game. Does this comment have something to do from that night?

We seem to only do one-timers from the bumper, or the very odd time from the point. Norris never gets set up from his spot anymore.

If anything, this season proves that Norris is a legit scorer, overall. He scores in many different ways and when he adds the one-timer back to his arsenal, he will be even more prolific.

Yes he is currently overpaid, but he is not a liability and if we give assets aways to move his contract, it would be a waste IMO.

I think the coaching staff themselves are telling him not to take any one timers.

I mean make sense that they would want to be so cautious.

Hopefully next year the shoulder strengthens some more and we see it again.

It was truly one of the most dangerous weapons in hockey. Prob the best one timer we've ever had.

 

[Micklebot]

The bumper position is different than the one timer from the dot. When in the dog, the pass comes from the D typically. In the bumper, it typically comes off the goal line. It's the pass from the D that Sanderson isn't attempting. After Norris one timed one a few games ago, I thought we'd see it more but we haven't.

Not sure who is making the pass in these plots, but the difference is pretty drastic (keeping in mind that we are looking at 44 games vs 66)

They just aren't running the play through his shot the way they did in 2021-22. Maybe that's because we have better option? Our pp has actually been better this year than 21-22.


Edit: just noticed, this year he is scoring on 21.7% of his PP shots that he gets on net, and on top of that another 13% are creating rebound shots, that seems really good to me, though I haven't looked into how that relates across the league.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Watch the PP. Sanderson doesn't set that one timer up. Last time I saw him do it was about 5 games ago and Norris scored.

The PP is currently in no man's land. You got stuetzle on the left side of the ice with the puck and a bad shooting angle and you've got Norris working up and down the right side of the ice and Sanderson won't move the puck there. With Stuetzle being a lefty and Norris not being given the opportunity to shoot, there's actually no shooting option.

I'm not a chabot fan but at this point I'd move chabot onto pp1 just to open up the Norris onetimer and cause teams to defend it and see how that opens everything else up

Also because Chabot has been wiring it as of late.

 

[JD1]

Two big goals from Norris

 

[PlayOn]

He’s clutch. I wanna see him in the playoffs.

 

[Sun God Nika]

He’s clutch. I wanna see him in the playoffs.

might be our last chance to see this as it seems Staios is committed to moving him by the summer.

 

[aragorn]

might be our last chance to see this as it seems Staios is committed to moving him by the summer.

I doubt that.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I doubt that.

Brucey said he had sources that Norris name is out there and sens are looking to clear him off the books and those rumours arent going away despite the fact he is on a 30 goal pace and healthy.

I honestly feel he is gone by next season.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I think the coaching staff themselves are telling him not to take any one timers.
I mean make sense that they would want to be so cautious.
It was truly one of the most dangerous weapons in hockey. Prob the best one timer we've ever had.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Heatley was a better scorer and more talented but he wasn't putting away one tees automatically like Norris was in his 35in22 season.

 

[Bileur]

I don’t know how anyone could have thought Sandy scored that goal after Norris’ reaction lol.

 

[Dionysus]

Heatley was a better scorer and more talented but he wasn't putting away one tees automatically like Norris was in his 35in22 season.

Heatley had a better one-timer. Could get it off when the pass wasn't optimal, and could score from greater range. Josh needs it teed up.

No shame in having a one-timer mentioned in the same breath as Heater though.

 

[Senovision]

That was a beauty by JayNo.
Clutch!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Where the f*** was his first goals?

 

[DylanSensFan]

That was a beauty by JayNo.
Clutch!

It was a smart position to be in for Norris. He got in the quiet spot and let one of the best passers on our team just load one up for him. It wasn't even perfect, but good enough to put it in the back of the net.

 

[boxbox]

might be our last chance to see this as it seems Staios is committed to moving him by the summer.

do you blame him ???its year 3 of his 8 year/$63.6m deal and hes yet to deliver....

 

[Tuna99]

Dude is clutch, scored a lot of big goals for us this year.

 

[vandelay]

Clutch Norris. The guy shows up for big moments. Dare to dream of playoffs with Brady manhandling and Clutch Norris scoring game breakers.

 

[Loach]

Brucey said he had sources that Norris name is out there and sens are looking to clear him off the books and those rumours arent going away despite the fact he is on a 30 goal pace and healthy.

I honestly feel he is gone by next season.

Since EM and Dorion are gone, Bruce doesn't even know where his fridge is, let alone what goes on with the team.

 

[PlayOn]

Since EM and Dorion are gone, Bruce doesn't even know where his fridge is, let alone what goes on with the team.

This isn’t really true though. He was writing about Ullmark, trying to dump Joseph, not qualifying Kelly, signing David Perron etc before these things happened. He definitely has info, it’s the only reason I check his stuff.

Doesn’t mean he’s never wrong. He tends to be right when he keeps writing about something though.

 

[Loach]

This isn’t really true though. He was writing about Ullmark, trying to dump Joseph, not qualifying Kelly, signing David Perron etc before these things happened. He definitely has info, it’s the only reason I check his stuff.

Doesn’t mean he’s never wrong. He tends to be right when he keeps writing about something though.

...after other people report it.

 

[Blotto71]

Since EM and Dorion are gone, Bruce doesn't even know where his fridge is, let alone what goes on with the team.

Then he must be doing okay to afford all the take out, because that boy ain't missin' meals!

 

[Sun God Nika]

do you blame him ???its year 3 of his 8 year/$63.6m deal and hes yet to deliver....

not at all but if Norris scores 30 this year at 8m in a 95M salary cap he is worth his salary. I wouldn't be opposed to moving him if they are going to acquire someone else to be second line C and replace his output. You also have to look at the effect trading someone like Norris would have with Tkachuk and the rest of the locker room.

but again I also understand Norris is a ticking time bomb and the best opportunity to get him off the books is now.

 

[Blotto71]

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f***ing All-Star

 

[PlayOn]

...after other people report it.

Nope. But I don’t like Garrioch enough to keep defending his credibility lol. I disagree that he doesn’t have sources and we can leave it at that.

not at all but if Norris scores 30 this year at 8m in a 95M salary cap he is worth his salary. I wouldn't be opposed to moving him if they are going to acquire someone else to be second line C and replace his output. You also have to look at the effect trading someone like Norris would have with Tkachuk and the rest of the locker room.

but again I also understand Norris is a ticking time bomb and the best opportunity to get him off the books is now.

I think if we miss the playoffs it doesn’t matter much if it disrupts the locker room, because the bottom line is we keep losing.

But I do wonder about it if we finally get in the playoffs and even perform well there. I don’t think you can run the franchise to please Tkachuk, but I think these things are worth more consideration in a Canadian market that isn’t considered a desirable place to play. If we were Vegas it would be a complete non-factor. But like anything else it just comes down to winning - if we start winning, they will get over it and if we don’t, we’re likely headed for a mess anyway. So Staios will do whatever he feels he has to do. I’m hoping Norris has a big second half here.