Value of: Josh Manson to the isles

[ThreeLeftSkates]

its no secret that boychuk is declining and is due for an injury, what would it take to get this young vet dman on the isles?

Boychuk is not going anywhere. Excuse this wheeler dealer for saying we are unhappy with the on ice product.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

This would also be selling low on Manson who's having a bad year offensively.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Don't really see a match to be made.... I think a lot of people think the ducks will sell low on guys like Lindholm/Rakell/Manson/Montour.... but that's prob not the case all 4 players contracts are still very good, and all 4 are young. Its clearly a coaching issue in Anaheim, and I woudlnt sell low on any pieces on good contracts in the 22-28 year old range.


I would move Fowler, Silf, id consider Henrique if the offer was solid.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I don't see a fit

you need to get faster and younger.

they are faster and younger!

 

[LamorielloAndSon]

Boychuk is not going anywhere. Excuse this wheeler dealer for saying we are unhappy with the on ice product.

Except the ir for the inevitable annual injury

 

[goal1228]

Boychuk is not going anywhere. Excuse this wheeler dealer for saying we are unhappy with the on ice product.

Trotz system is taylor made for Boychuck...

 

[goal1228]

its no secret that boychuk is declining and is due for an injury, what would it take to get this young vet dman on the isles?

 

[goal1228]

Trotz system is taylor made for Boychuk....

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Except the ir for the inevitable annual injury

Still the last defenseman we should try to trade. Ask Boston, they would still like him back.

 

[PWJunior]

Still the last defenseman we should try to trade. Ask Boston, they would still like him back.

Johnny Boychuk - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

After this season, Boychuk's NMC turns into modified NTC and he will have 3 seasons left on his contract. He is the veteran leader on the blue line and he has seen Pulock and Mayfield emerge so he doesn't have to do the heavy lifting.

Boychuk will be back next season, his play has earned him that and he is most definitely a Trotz player. That allows the Isles to not rush Dobson and Wilde so they can be slow cooked. Rathgeb in the AHL could be depth for next season too.

By 2020-21, Dobson and Wilde will turn pro and will have full ELC's in tow. They can be phased in slowly and Boychuk would be more easily movable with 2 years left on his contract.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Isles are looking for fwd help. They are loaded with quality D. Plus with Toews emerging as a quality smart PM defender. Manson would not be a wise usage of trade capital.

Also, Isles have Aho in the minors, he is knocking on the door. And 2 potential studs in Dobson and Wilde. Don't see the fit.

 

[LamorielloAndSon]

Still the last defenseman we should try to trade. Ask Boston, they would still like him back.

Omg I want boychuk to Stay I just think he’s due for an injury, he’s been playing great but this is his entire thing and pushing him down to 7th d to rotate him into and out of the line up would be huge with a dman like Manson being added to the line up

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Who?
I don’t see Wilde or Dobson up for atleast 2 full seasons after this one

And that's fine. Boychuk is playing very well this season. He has time left. A replacement isn't needed immediately.

NYI pass on interest in Josh Manson.

 

[Isles72]

not sure how long it'll last but Trotz has turned Boychuk into his old self . Six mil per for JB is a bit rich but it is what it is for now .

 

[CREW99AW]

its no secret that boychuk is declining and is due for an injury, what would it take to get this young vet dman on the isles?

This argument would have made sense last season, but this season Boychuk's been healthy and playing well. He seems to be a Trotz favorite and mentor for the kids.

I would be surprised if he is moved.

 

[CREW99AW]

Dobson+ Bellows

No.Thanks,but no.

 

[buud]

IF the Isles are going for it this year, i would like to see an upgrade at LD position. lots of depth there, but very inexperienced. trade Hickey, an LD prospect (like Vande Sompel), and maybe a pick.

i feel like the Ducks would trade a D for a winger. i would consider something around Fowler and Lee, but that leaves the Isles thin on LW.

maybe we can do this trade, AFTER Lou signs Panarin and Stone...

 

[boredmale]

i feel like the Ducks would trade a D for a winger. i would consider something around Fowler and Lee, but that leaves the Isles thin on LW.

Why would Anaheim trade for a UFA?

maybe we can do this trade, AFTER Lou signs Panarin and Stone...

Then we still would be short on a #2 C

 

[axlrose87]

it's an overpayment, but despite the rumors we aren't having a fire sale or trying to move out all our contracts. We have no reason to move Manson unless it's an overpayment and there's nothing else on the Isles system I would want in return.

The ducks have plenty of reasons to move Manson and try and acquire some young talent. Their team is old and declining.
Just because barzal is on the isles doesn't mean he is the only piece ducks management would look at. The isles have plenty of good young players and prospects to make a deal for Manson.

 

[buud]

Why would Anaheim trade for a UFA?



Then we still would be short on a #2 C

the same reason hundreds of other UFAs have been traded for. unless you feel that the Ducks should give up on the season? not sure why they would do that, being 1 point out of a PO spot. not that i want to trade Lee, but the Ducks need help on LW, i think.

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i didn't claim that this would solve all our problems. we are doing ok with Nelson at 2C, so maybe we keep him?

out = Hickey, Lee, Eberle.
in = Fowler, Panarin, Stone.

an improvement, IMO.

 

[seafoam]

Makes little sense for both organizations.

 

[CupHolders]

Omg I want boychuk to Stay I just think he’s due for an injury, he’s been playing great but this is his entire thing and pushing him down to 7th d to rotate him into and out of the line up would be huge with a dman like Manson being added to the line up

Isles like all teams have limited assets to work with to improve their team. I just see this notion of acquiring Manson (who I’m a huge fan of his, and his father for that matter) as...

1) giving up too many finite assets to NOT address their most pressing needs.

2) acquiring a player who will provide limited improvement to the Isles current make up. “Instead of already giving up the least amount of goals in the NHL, the Isles will now give up a little bit “leaster” amount of goals!”

3) an effective, and well paid player “Boychuck” is now a high priced substitute.

This deal just seems to costs the Isles too much, for marginal improvement and throws their salary structure even more out of whack

 

[Anaheim4ever]

The ducks have plenty of reasons to move Manson and try and acquire some young talent. Their team is old and declining.
Just because barzal is on the isles doesn't mean he is the only piece ducks management would look at. The isles have plenty of good young players and prospects to make a deal for Manson.

Old ? Do some research first Oldest and Youngest NHL Teams of 2018-19 Season
Ducks average age is 26.8, thats before trading Cogliano for Shore & Petterssen for Sprong which would make them even younger. They also have several young guys looking to be regulars next season: Comtois, Terry, Steel, Jones.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

the same reason hundreds of other UFAs have been traded for. unless you feel that the Ducks should give up on the season? not sure why they would do that, being 1 point out of a PO spot. not that i want to trade Lee, but the Ducks need help on LW, i think.

Left Wing

Nick Ritchie Devin Shore Adam Cracknell Brian Gibbons

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

i didn't claim that this would solve all our problems. we are doing ok with Nelson at 2C, so maybe we keep him?

out = Hickey, Lee, Eberle.
in = Fowler, Panarin, Stone.

an improvement, IMO.

Um trading a dmen is most likely us givin up on season.

Also our lws are rakell - ritchie - shore then jones/comtois coming soon.

Teams problem is coachin and no 1 player joinin thos team is gunna fix it

 

[dracom]

The ducks have plenty of reasons to move Manson and try and acquire some young talent. Their team is old and declining.
Just because barzal is on the isles doesn't mean he is the only piece ducks management would look at. The isles have plenty of good young players and prospects to make a deal for Manson.

As someone else pointed out we’re not old, we have 3 guys who are old. We just extended Manson who is still at a good age to be around for a re-tool. So no, we have no reason to move him for lesser pieces.