Proposal: Josh Anderson to Calgary

[SteveCangialosi123]

You clearly don't know value for a guy with his size/skating and how he can turn the needle in playoff hockey. Habs are not shopping Anderson to dump him. Fans/Media are and you are getting very confused.

Asking for us to pay a 1st to trade Anderson is insulting. You need a reality check. And once again, drop the devalue narrative and just say you are not interested. But you can help yourself... typical HF boards

He’ll either play out his deal in MTL, get bought out/LTIR’d, or get dumped with a pick somewhere.

 

[Double Dion]

Habs might bite on Huberdeau but we would have to send more cap the other way on top of Anderson or ask the Flames to retain which is unlikely. You won't like it but it would have to be both Anderson and Gallagher and then you decline right? It's possible we can retain on Gallagher to even the cap in/out

Huberdeau from age 30-37 at $10.5M is very risky yes. He has to be a 80+ points guy to even come close to performing to that cap hit. We all like him but we see the 30+ risks the same.

Gallagher and Anderson is too much. I wouldn't do both. I mean yes it's more cap but we aren't talking the same caliber of players here. We are talking a guy who had 115 last year versus guys who had 24 and 32. It's like comparing Suzuki to Trevor Lewis.

 

[samsagat]

If Anderson gets traded, chances are it'll be in a hockey trade in the summer

If not, it'll be after UFA frenzy, where teams with cap space that weren't able to attract no one gonna be more open to give future assets to get better

Some good teams that weren't able to last long in the playoffs because they lacked grit, for exemple.

 

[Double Dion]

Flames in a difficult spot with most of the core 30+ moving forward. Prospect pool is very thin and only 1 1st rounder in the next 3 drafts.

I agree with you. Flames should not be trading for Anderson. Lets the cards fall where they fall and regroup in the off season

Habs are happy with Anderson. We are only considering trades in a pry away narrative. Rather rape a US team with their futures vs the Flames to be honest. Not because I don't like Anderson but we are setting a very high price if we move him. Likely higher than Toffoli

Genuinely curious. Who do you think is better out of Anderson and Monahan?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Genuinely curious. Who do you think is better out of Anderson and Monahan?

On the ice and no contract/age factored in... Monahan right now. Center is more valuable than a winger. Both to me are middle 6F types who are valuable when they are on their game but Monahan performing to pre injury production is worth more.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I like how in all these threads Montreal fans try and get 1st round picks and their argument is always: "we don't have to move him"...like okay then dont

 

[Bond]

You clearly don't know value for a guy with his size/skating and how he can turn the needle in playoff hockey. Habs are not shopping Anderson to dump him. Fans/Media are and you are getting very confused.

Asking for us to pay a 1st to trade Anderson is insulting. You need a reality check. And once again, drop the devalue narrative and just say you are not interested. But you can help yourself... typical HF boards

His 6 points in the Habs playoff run really back up your point. His contract is brutal

 

[pth2]

His 6 points in the Habs playoff run really back up your point. His contract is brutal

While he didn't put up numbers, his play was fine. He opens up the game for other players, often not getting points on goals he helped create. He's no playmaker, for sure, but just looking at production is short-sighted in his case.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

If Anderson and his horrible contract were so valued around the league. He'd already be traded. His stock is declining because of his play. His contract means the Habs have to eat it a bit to have any chance of trading him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

His 6 points in the Habs playoff run really back up your point. His contract is brutal

Points don't reveal the entire picture with Anderson. I don't care about devalue narratives because you know why? We are not desperate to move him. He's well liked in the room and we can be just fine with keeping his big body and skating to free up space for others on his line.

If you think Anderson didn't help the Habs on that run, you really don't know much about hockey like you think. I think you do know but you will avoid it and focus on the post you just make instead.

 

[DiglettDangles]

I keep seeing the same 2-3 names in all the Habs-related posts (you know who you are) who just sound so snarky and bitter.
Not even TOR/BOS/OTT/QUE/COL fans afaik for which a sport-related animosity would sort of make sense.
Did you visit MTL 10 years ago and got mugged or something? You learned the hard way that you're a Florida/NJ 7 but a MTL 3? Geez get over yourselves

Back to the topic at hand, I also keep hearing Anderson to CGY in the media but I can't seem to make it work cap wise so I'm puzzled as to why it's still discussed regardless of interest or perceived value.

 

[Lockin17]

Anderson stays put in MTL,
Habs fans love that player.
Unless we get a overpaid he's stays in MTL.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Anderson 3rd liner. Pot 20 goals.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Anderson 3rd liner. Pot 20 goals.

Close to 50/50 zone starts with a 50%+ corsi for. Playing around 15 min a game and that is not entirely 3rd line minutes. Habs 2nd line and 3rd line are close so it's a middle 6 narrative, not top 6 vs bottom 6.

He's basically a 20-25 goal and 30-40 pts guy but brings that key element of size/skating and has multiple gears. Frustrating that he don't give 100% every game but when he does, it's very effective. His game against the Flames is basically what you get for playoff hockey.

Hits/60 is very good.
Blocks/60 is meh
Giveaways and Takeaways/60 is ok. No red flags.

1.28 goals/60 at 5/5. That's pretty good for a 15 min/game player. Better than Kadri, Lindholm, Toffoli, Mang, Huberdeau, etc. Similar to what Mang, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Gaudreau did last year.

Not going to turn the needle on the PP but not a bad piece for the 2nd unit.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Just don’t see any interest from the flames.

How about Huberdeau for Anderson and Hoffman

 

[Lockin17]

Just don’t see any interest from the flames.

How about Huberdeau for Anderson and Hoffman

I would be tempting to do this , but that contract isshhhh danmm

 

[Mrfenn92]

I would be tempting to do this , but that contract isshhhh danmm

Contract is tough no doubt but remember lots of others don’t like Josh’s deal either. Was just trying to figure out a combo that might work off a double/Halifax talk from above.

 

[Double Dion]

On the ice and no contract/age factored in... Monahan right now. Center is more valuable than a winger. Both to me are middle 6F types who are valuable when they are on their game but Monahan performing to pre injury production is worth more.

On the ice and no contract/age factored in... Monahan right now. Center is more valuable than a winger. Both to me are middle 6F types who are valuable when they are on their game but Monahan performing to pre injury production is worth more.

That's kind of how I'd read the situation too. We had to move a 1st to get you guys to take Monahan. Why would Anderson be worth a 1st to an acquiring team when he has more term left?

 

[pth2]

Back to the topic at hand, I also keep hearing Anderson to CGY in the media but I can't seem to make it work cap wise so I'm puzzled as to why it's still discussed regardless of interest or perceived value.

That's why I tried to find a way to make this work. I didn't do my homework well enough though, their cap issues are real.

Assuming no retention, the only way this could work is with Calgary sending Montreal a roster player making real money in addition to Lucic, which kind of kills the notion of improving for the playoffs. Otherwise, Calgary is stuck moving a contract this summer.

 

[Habs Halifax]

That's kind of how I'd read the situation too. We had to move a 1st to get you guys to take Monahan. Why would Anderson be worth a 1st to an acquiring team when he has more term left?

It would be a extremely rare circumstance. I'm sure the Flames would have loved to see what Monahan could do once healthy but they couldn't gamble on it again and wanted to sign Kadri. Sucks to add a 1st to move a guy like that. I feel for the Flames fan base on that one.

Habs love what they are getting from Monahan. Big body, great on faceoffs, and fits well with Anderson and Slaf. Hopefully his nagging injury is gone and he is back playing soon.

Sign Monahan or trade him. Depends on what he would sign for and what teams offer as we approach the deadline. If he ask for too much term/AAV, we trade him and wait it out till last min on deadline day. Who knows what happens.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Contract is tough no doubt but remember lots of others don’t like Josh’s deal either. Was just trying to figure out a combo that might work off a double/Halifax talk from above.

It would have to be considered this summer. Flames could not add cap hits like that now cause Huberdeau's contract is still in the last year of the previous deal. So yeah, more information would be known in the summer and for all we know, Huberdeau has a great 2nd half and playoffs and the Flames change their tune on him.

My focus would be money in matching money out and terms close. Anderson has 4 years left after this one (age 29-32) and Huberdeau has 8 (age 30-37). This could turn our very badly for the Habs in those last 4 years.... right at a time when we might exit the rebuild/transition years.

I'd consider Anderson and Gallagher. Anderson and Hoffman has more risks because Habs may be stuck with two very bad contracts in Gallagher and Huberdeau with lots of term left.

 

[Mrfenn92]

It would have to be considered this summer. Flames could not add cap hits like that now cause Huberdeau's contract is still in the last year of the previous deal. So yeah, more information would be known in the summer and for all we know, Huberdeau has a great 2nd half and playoffs and the Flames change their tune on him.

My focus would be money in matching money out and terms close. Anderson has 4 years left after this one (age 29-32) and Huberdeau has 8 (age 30-37). This could turn our very badly for the Habs in those last 4 years.... right at a time when we might exit the rebuild/transition years.

I'd consider Anderson and Gallagher. Anderson and Hoffman has more risks because Habs may be stuck with two very bad contracts in Gallagher and Huberdeau with lots of term left.

Understood and no issue with this.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I keep seeing the same 2-3 names in all the Habs-related posts (you know who you are) who just sound so snarky and bitter.
Not even TOR/BOS/OTT/QUE/COL fans afaik for which a sport-related animosity would sort of make sense.
Did you visit MTL 10 years ago and got mugged or something? You learned the hard way that you're a Florida/NJ 7 but a MTL 3? Geez get over yourselves

Back to the topic at hand, I also keep hearing Anderson to CGY in the media but I can't seem to make it work cap wise so I'm puzzled as to why it's still discussed regardless of interest or perceived value.

You guys keep asking for high value assets for a worthless asset

 

[Wayfarer13]

Not sure if you've looked at Calgary's cap situation starting next year?
They need to move some salary out not add a long term 5.5M contract.

That can be dealt with in the summer.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

This is a terrible deal with the Habs. Therefor Treliving accepts