Proposal: Josh Anderson to Calgary

[pth2]

I'm thinking Calgary has a lot of contracts which last a while, they are essentially committed to the current group, why not add to that, and go all-in for the present with another big forward. Anderson is particularly effective when he doesn't need to be the only physical forward, so I think he'd be a great fit.

Calgary has a simple way of respecting the cap by sending Lucic's expiring contract back (I assume it has little value as a rental). I'd actually do this at the deadline, so Lucic is more likely to waive his NMC since it's only for a couple of months.

So, would Calgary's 1st round pick from 2024 (protected in whichever way the two GMs can agree on) be too much of an add from Calgary to get Anderson? Or would Pelletier or another prospect be a good fit? Keep in mind, there's no rush for Montreal to move him and I expect any trade means Montreal gets something of interest in return. This ain't no cap dump.

I know some hate Anderson's contract, but he'll only be 32 when it expires, much younger than most contracts signed by the Flames recently. Heck, he'll be the same age Kadri is right now. No way Montreal retains on such a long contract, BTW.

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[Larry Hanson]

Not sure if you've looked at Calgary's cap situation starting next year?
They need to move some salary out not add a long term 5.5M contract.

 

[pth2]

Not sure if you've looked at Calgary's cap situation starting next year?
They need to move some salary out not add a long term 5.5M contract.

I figured if the cap goes up a bit and Lucic moves out, it's manageable. Otherwise, the only skater I see who could fit with Montreal's timeline would be Dillon Dubé. (or Kylington?)

 

[Larry Hanson]

Flames have 80.5M allocated to 16 players next year, that's with Lucic being off the books. Anderson is not a fit with Calgary. I'd rather keep Dube at less than half the cap hit.

 

[Double Dion]

I'm thinking Calgary has a lot of contracts which last a while, they are essentially committed to the current group, why not add to that, and go all-in for the present with another big forward. Anderson is particularly effective when he doesn't need to be the only physical forward, so I think he'd be a great fit.

Calgary has a simple way of respecting the cap by sending Lucic's expiring contract back (I assume it has little value as a rental). I'd actually do this at the deadline, so Lucic is more likely to waive his NMC since it's only for a couple of months.

So, would Calgary's 1st round pick from 2024 (protected in whichever way the two GMs can agree on) be too much of an add from Calgary to get Anderson? Or would Pelletier or another prospect be a good fit? Keep in mind, there's no rush for Montreal to move him and I expect any trade means Montreal gets something of interest in return. This ain't no cap dump.

I know some hate Anderson's contract, but he'll only be 32 when it expires, much younger than most contracts signed by the Flames recently. Heck, he'll be the same age Kadri is right now. No way Montreal retains on such a long contract, BTW.

Not trying to be a jerk but I wouldn't even slightly consider Lucic for Anderson straight up. Lucic expires this year.

Personally I'd do Huberdeau without a moments hesitation if you're interested in that. Not a fan of that contract moving forward.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I figured if the cap goes up a bit and Lucic moves out, it's manageable. Otherwise, the only skater I see who could fit with Montreal's timeline would be Dillon Dubé. (or Kylington?)

Nope, 100% of Lucic's contract is going into Huberdeau. Anderson is an expensive 3rd liner that Calgary can't afford

 

[BRobMint]

Not thanks to Andreson. Cap hit is too high and his contract is too long

 

[Vintage93]

Need to add a sweetener to move that deal

 

[pld459666]

I'm thinking Calgary has a lot of contracts which last a while, they are essentially committed to the current group, why not add to that, and go all-in for the present with another big forward. Anderson is particularly effective when he doesn't need to be the only physical forward, so I think he'd be a great fit.

Calgary has a simple way of respecting the cap by sending Lucic's expiring contract back (I assume it has little value as a rental). I'd actually do this at the deadline, so Lucic is more likely to waive his NMC since it's only for a couple of months.

So, would Calgary's 1st round pick from 2024 (protected in whichever way the two GMs can agree on) be too much of an add from Calgary to get Anderson? Or would Pelletier or another prospect be a good fit? Keep in mind, there's no rush for Montreal to move him and I expect any trade means Montreal gets something of interest in return. This ain't no cap dump.

I know some hate Anderson's contract, but he'll only be 32 when it expires, much younger than most contracts signed by the Flames recently. Heck, he'll be the same age Kadri is right now. No way Montreal retains on such a long contract, BTW.

Hes not worth a 1st.

 

[Voight]

First of all, good luck getting a 1st for him.

Second, I doubt anyone is taking on that contract without retention.

 

[McJedi]

I'm thinking Calgary has a lot of contracts which last a while, they are essentially committed to the current group, why not add to that, and go all-in for the present with another big forward. Anderson is particularly effective when he doesn't need to be the only physical forward, so I think he'd be a great fit.

Calgary has a simple way of respecting the cap by sending Lucic's expiring contract back (I assume it has little value as a rental). I'd actually do this at the deadline, so Lucic is more likely to waive his NMC since it's only for a couple of months.

So, would Calgary's 1st round pick from 2024 (protected in whichever way the two GMs can agree on) be too much of an add from Calgary to get Anderson? Or would Pelletier or another prospect be a good fit? Keep in mind, there's no rush for Montreal to move him and I expect any trade means Montreal gets something of interest in return. This ain't no cap dump.

I know some hate Anderson's contract, but he'll only be 32 when it expires, much younger than most contracts signed by the Flames recently. Heck, he'll be the same age Kadri is right now. No way Montreal retains on such a long contract, BTW.

Be honest with yourself. You’d gladly give away Anderson.

The Habs have a lot of good young talent you’ll need to pay and you’ll need to play. Anderson is in the way. He’s not core. So asking for anything, let alone a 1st or a key prospect for a dude with a questionable long term contract is…. Nonsense!!

Waive Anderson today and he’d go thru waivers unclaimed. Teams aren’t paying anything to acquire overpaid middle six wingers with term. That’s like the most toxic asset on the market right now. And there are a lot of them available. Boeser, Garland, a few dudes on Arizona, several Habs, a few Islanders, Bertuzzi (rental) and so on.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not trying to be a jerk but I wouldn't even slightly consider Lucic for Anderson straight up. Lucic expires this year.

Personally I'd do Huberdeau without a moments hesitation if you're interested in that. Not a fan of that contract moving forward.

Habs might bite on Huberdeau but we would have to send more cap the other way on top of Anderson or ask the Flames to retain which is unlikely. You won't like it but it would have to be both Anderson and Gallagher and then you decline right? It's possible we can retain on Gallagher to even the cap in/out

Huberdeau from age 30-37 at $10.5M is very risky yes. He has to be a 80+ points guy to even come close to performing to that cap hit. We all like him but we see the 30+ risks the same.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

The value is more realistic if you’re attaching Montreal’s 2024 1st to Anderson in the deal. His value is negative. Massively negative with the cap likely barely going up next year.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The value is more realistic if you’re attaching Montreal’s 2024 1st to Anderson in the deal. His value is negative. Massively negative with the cap likely barely going up next year.

Haha. If the situation was reversed, Flames fans would be outraged by this comment. Anderson is not a negative and no, we are not adding a 1st to move him. Give your head a shake. You're making the Flames fan base look bad on this level of exaggeration.

The better reply for you is just to say, You are not interested in Anderson. There is nothing realistic in what you said.

I like it when posters use words like Ridiculous, Hilarious, Insane, and this one.. "Massively Negative"

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Haha. If the situation was reversed, Flames fans would be outraged by this comment. Anderson is not a negative and no, we are not adding a 1st to move him. Give your head a shake. You're making the Flames fan base look bad on this level of exaggeration.

The better reply for you is just to say, You are not interested in Anderson. There is nothing realistic in what you said.

I like it when posters use words like Ridiculous, Hilarious, Insane, and this one.. "Massively Negative"

Below average players making that much money for that much term are cap dumps, not players you should expect a return for.

I am not a Flames fan. Unless you take advantage of some true moron GM or eat half of his deal, you’re stuck with Anderson.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Below average players making that much money for that much term are cap dumps, not players you should expect a return for.

I am not a Flames fan. Unless you take advantage of some true moron GM or eat half of his deal, you’re stuck with Anderson.

Middle 6F with that size/skating is not a "massively negative" contract. Keep trying. Just say you are not interested in Anderson. Going on a devalue narrative after you decline the trade is a stupid game.

 

[Djp]

I figured if the cap goes up a bit and Lucic moves out, it's manageable. Otherwise, the only skater I see who could fit with Montreal's timeline would be Dillon Dubé. (or Kylington?)

look at cap friendly. 26 players for $80M already committed leaving thrm $3M for 7 players.

thry need to move out 2-3 salaried players fir 23/24 season and just promote their youth to fill the roster. To acquire another salary means they need to move out more…

oh by the way did you see what happened this past summer with a few teams having cap space and high cost players value plummeted or the team had to add sweetener—that’s happening again this summer.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Middle 6F with that size/skating is not a "massively negative" contract. Keep trying. Just say you are not interested in Anderson. Going on a devalue narrative after you decline the trade is a stupid game.

It’s just insulting to ask for a 1st. Adam Henrique was placed on waivers a couple years ago and there were no takers. He has been and always will be better than Anderson and plays center, and no one was taking him for free because of his contract. You need a reality check.

 

[Djp]

Middle 6F with that size/skating is not a "massively negative" contract. Keep trying. Just say you are not interested in Anderson. Going on a devalue narrative after you decline the trade is a stupid game.

how many teams can afford to take his full contract without sending back equivalent salary?

 

[Habs Halifax]

It’s just insulting to ask for a 1st. Adam Henrique was placed on waivers a couple years ago and there were no takers. He has been and always will be better than Anderson and plays center, and no one was taking him for free because of his contract. You need a reality check.

You clearly don't know value for a guy with his size/skating and how he can turn the needle in playoff hockey. Habs are not shopping Anderson to dump him. Fans/Media are and you are getting very confused.

Asking for us to pay a 1st to trade Anderson is insulting. You need a reality check. And once again, drop the devalue narrative and just say you are not interested. But you can help yourself... typical HF boards

 

[23Monahan]

Lol seems like something treliving would do but he better facking not, we might not even be a playoff team and are going to be struggling to be cap compliant for next year as is. Plus we have such a shallow prospect pool we need to keep our 1st overall IMO

 

[Habs Halifax]

how many teams can afford to take his full contract without sending back equivalent salary?

We are open to taking a contract back depending on who that player is and what term is left. But remember, we are happy with Anderson and this is a pry away narrative in terms of reinforcing our rebuild/transition years with more futures. Fans and Media are shopping Anderson but Gorton and Hughes are not. We are glad to keep him if we don't get the pry away value. This is not a Boeser situation

 

[pth2]

Looks like I didn't realize the extent to which Calgary had painted themselves into a corner with the Kadri, Weegar and Huberdeau contracts.

I'm still thinking Anderson will be a fit with a team thoroughly invested in the present, which won't mind as much if in 3 years Anderson's deal is sub-optimal since they know they'll be declining by then.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lol seems like something treliving would do but he better facking not, we might not even be a playoff team and are going to be struggling to be cap compliant for next year as is. Plus we have such a shallow prospect pool we need to keep our 1st overall IMO

Flames in a difficult spot with most of the core 30+ moving forward. Prospect pool is very thin and only 1 1st rounder in the next 3 drafts.

I agree with you. Flames should not be trading for Anderson. Lets the cards fall where they fall and regroup in the off season

Habs are happy with Anderson. We are only considering trades in a pry away narrative. Rather rape a US team with their futures vs the Flames to be honest. Not because I don't like Anderson but we are setting a very high price if we move him. Likely higher than Toffoli

 

[pth2]

It’s just insulting to ask for a 1st. Adam Henrique was placed on waivers a couple years ago and there were no takers. He has been and always will be better than Anderson and plays center, and no one was taking him for free because of his contract. You need a reality check.

You realize I was asking if a first or prospect was the better fit, right ? Or did you just see a mention of a 1st and rage-post immediately ?