Speculation: Jordan Binnington to Toronto?

[easton117]

This is a match made in heaven

for everybody outside of Toronto. I approve

Some as calm and level emotionally as JB will surely flower in that matket

 

[SoupNazi]

I literally put in the OP, it was the Jeff Marek show.

Maybe read the OP

Maybe read my post where I said post a link.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Some as calm and level emotionally as JB will surely flower in that matket

While definitely cannot be described as calm, Binnington certainly has as thick of a skin as anyone in the league, often to the point of being obnoxiously intransigent.

 

[easton117]

While definitely cannot be described as calm, Binnington certainly has as thick of a skin as anyone in the league, often to the point of being obnoxiously intransigent.

lol just screwing around. Who knows how the guy would handle that place.

I for one welcome the chance it blow up in spectacular fashion. But then I don’t cheer for them so there’s that.

Edit on a side note I’ll no longer re-editing my posts on this site so whatever it and the iPhone thinks I typed I’m running with. Let’s see how it plays out

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

If they do get a goalie I think it'll be Saros if Marner heads to Nashville.

But as for Binnington, I believe he does get traded. But if he goes anywhere, I see him ending up in Colorado, Philly, New Jersey or Washington. Don't think Berube liked coaching Binnington.

 

[NotTheRocketman]

You can't give Woll another shot he's to fragile that's the ENTIRE problem.

It's not talent it's health, and way he he gets injured.

He missed 3 months because he got hurt on MUFFIN shot.

and then he took himself out of game 7 by trying to make a save on a shot he literally didn't need to.

He's to injury prone

There is no way that Woll would have thought "The game is almost over, I'll just let that one go in", so blaming him is ridiculous. That's his job, it was just shitty luck.

 

[NotTheRocketman]

This is pretty obvious. Binnington is a playoff nails goalie and Toronto needs one of those. The idea if the Leafs fans being like, well maybe we would take him, lol.

Of course you would take him, he is the difference between you not advancing and advancing. I suspect you want to advance?

He is 6 wins away from being the Blues all time wins leader and the Blues aren't ready to hand things over to Hofer (I personally want Binnington to retire a Blue after another contract). The Blues are also determined to try to compete to make the playoffs and not bottom out. (In fairness to the Blues' thinking on this is that they may have utterly crushed the 2023 draft and will be back involved in playoffs soon.) Trading Binnington would be an immediate end to that, they would plunge. It's just not the ownership's philosophy.

Therefore, the price to make it happen is going to be large. Large enough, number one, where it makes discussing it here not worth it, especially since we couldn't even agree that you need him, and then number two where we wouldn't agree on price and it would just be dissing him as a person and all that.

Toronto objectively needing him is not enough to incentivize a predictably dismal discussion.

Hofer had a really strong rookie year, and I think he's going to be a fantastic NHL goalie, but I don't like the idea of handing the reigns over to him after just one year in the Show. Having said that, if Army can really leverage an overpay from Toronto for him, I'll do it.

 

[CapSpace]

Yes please. Can't wait to see Binnington throwing spoiled brat tantrums after he loses against Montreal.

 

[NotTheRocketman]

I'll fully admit I think Binnington has been a pretty normal goalie since that cup run, not bad, not great.

That being said, he was amazing in that cup run. I liked St.Louis a lot as a team but always thought they lacked 2 things to get them over the hump, a 1C and a goalie, Elliott/Allen were just too mediocre for a team with cup aspirations.

Blues acquired ROR, that was one of the big things out of the way, and then Binnington came out and we know the rest.

I think the biggest problem which hurt Berube was losing Pietrangelo and it's on Armstrong. I have no idea how you add a guy like Faulk, a right shot defenseman when you have Pietrangelo and Parayko, and you sign Faulk to an extension first. You then let your franchise top pair defenseman walk for nothing.

Binner has his ups and downs, but he shows up in big games. His numbers after a playoff loss are very good, and if he hadn't been injured in 2022, I absolutely believe he would have stolen that series from the Avs. He was playing out of his mind with a .949 SV% and 1.72 GAA in six games.

I mean what do you expect when you lose so many key players? Pietrangelo, ROR, Tank, Perron, Bozak, Steen, J-Bo.. that's a lotta talent who either walked as UFAs or aged out.

Or straight up got hurt and had to unexpectedly retire.

Bouwmeester with the heart issue.
Gunnersson with a knee issue.
And most infamously, Bozak with concussion issues after one of the most blatant blindside cheap shots from Mark Stone you'll ever see.

Three huge contributors from that team, GONE just like that.

 

[dirtydanglez]

binnington in toronto would be interesting. chaos on top of chaos.

 

[JTRAIN1966]

Again I think Berube is going to have Some say, I think if Berube says he wants Binnington, I think Treliving tries to make that happen especially given that's the guy his coach won with.

When you are a coach as high profile as Berube you are going to have say in personnel decisions.



Knight is not mentally strong enough for Toronto

Then......Binner is your guy ! His give a shitometer won't probably budge in, Toronto .

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Then......Binner is your guy ! His give a shitometer won't probably budge in, Toronto .

That might actually be a good thing it means the Media wouldn't get to him.

Binner has his ups and downs, but he shows up in big games. His numbers after a playoff loss are very good, and if he hadn't been injured in 2022, I absolutely believe he would have stolen that series from the Avs. He was playing out of his mind with a .949 SV% and 1.72 GAA in six games.


Or straight up got hurt and had to unexpectedly retire.

Bouwmeester with the heart issue.
Gunnersson with a knee issue.
And most infamously, Bozak with concussion issues after one of the most blatant blindside cheap shots from Mark Stone you'll ever see.

Three huge contributors from that team, GONE just like that.

I was wondering what happened to Bozak, I didn't know Stone did that.

I always liked Gunnar too, bad time to be a leaf fan but he was good.

If they do get a goalie I think it'll be Saros if Marner heads to Nashville.

But as for Binnington, I believe he does get traded. But if he goes anywhere, I see him ending up in Colorado, Philly, New Jersey or Washington. Don't think Berube liked coaching Binnington.

They only have 1 goalie under contract so they have no choice they have to get somebody

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Anyone that hasn't watched a Blues game in 5 years wouldnt know how good JB50 is. Ripped off from calder, ripped off from Conn Smyth. Crazy sure, but absolutely elite. Without him Blues might not win 10 games.

And yet Hofer had 15 wins.

But I agree, Binnington is a good goalie who had a really good season.

 

[FerrisRox]

I wasn't putting Woll in Demko's class.
2 yrs ago because of Demko's injuries people were talking about trading him.

....And then this year, the Canucks put together a really magical season, but they failed in the playoffs and where was Demko? He was injured.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Hofer had a really strong rookie year, and I think he's going to be a fantastic NHL goalie, but I don't like the idea of handing the reigns over to him after just one year in the Show. Having said that, if Army can really leverage an overpay from Toronto for him, I'll do it.

I'm sure if Binner is moved, Army will sign a mediocre starter just to fill the quota until Hofer is ready.

Mostly it would be down to what assets are offered from Toronto, if they are in a discussion. We will not be winning any playoff rounds any time soon, if we make it there at all. Binnington is actually quite inconsistent in the regular season. But in the stretch run and the playoffs, he usually is able to turn it on at a higher gear.

If there are good offers out there, I am sure Army would consider. There just isn't a need for a playoff goalie at this stage in the organization. If another team is willing to pay for that performance, then I'm sure we can come to the right price.

 

[tfriede2]

Yes please. Can't wait to see Binnington throwing spoiled brat tantrums after he loses against Montreal.

Out of the 280 NHL games he’s played, tell me how many times he threw a tantrum after a loss. He had zero instances of anything out of the ordinary this season. He threw an empty water bottle in the direction of a player who took him out of the playoffs. He threw swung his stick in the direction of a player’s head once (which was dumb). 280 games, a few instances of bad choices. No post-game tantrums (other than the water bottle). People look at a couple of highlights of that and think he does all the time. He doesn’t.

 

[PocketNines]

Out of the 280 NHL games he’s played, tell me how many times he threw a tantrum after a loss. He had zero instances of anything out of the ordinary this season. He threw an empty water bottle in the direction of a player who took him out of the playoffs. He threw swung his stick in the direction of a player’s head once (which was dumb). 280 games, a few instances of bad choices. No post-game tantrums (other than the water bottle). People look at a couple of highlights of that and think he does all the time. He doesn’t.

Well he also had the temerity to beat Boston, and Boston fans know they can only lose legitimately when they are major underdogs, otherwise their opponents got lucky. The opponents certainly weren't good.

There are Boston wretches in this thread five years later. Those Bruins lost three straight games at home to the Blues and their still-bitter fans are weak. Binnington told the Bruins former coach Don Cherry when they were in the elevator together he was going to win Game 7 and he did, because Binnington is a badass nails playoff goalie. Some athletes are that. He is.

 

[BKarchitect]

He’s a lunatic and annoying but he’s still in his prime, has a Cup and was 4th among all starters in GSAx last season.

The Leafs…or anybody needing a goalie…could do a hell of a lot worse. His contract isn’t bad either…fair AAV and ends after his age 33 season so you aren’t on the hook for the decrepit years.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Robertson (RFA) + Hildeby (Top-5 ranked goalie prospect) for Binnington (6M per for 3 years)

Robertson (RFA) + Villeneuve or Tverberg (Top-10 ranked defenseman or forward prospect) for Markstrom (6M per for 2 years)

Binnington and Markstrom have term at a set rate and the Leafs have some good young goalies in the system. Which makes Saros the most unlikely of the 3 because he has one year left, which means he will need a large extension, Toronto may only need a goalie for 2-3 years, Saros is coming in for 1 or 7-9.

LOL, no one wants Robertson and their is no ranking that shows Hildeby in a top-5 as a goalie prospect. IN the below, he's merely an honorably mention and outside the top-15. lol

Scott Wheeler's top 15 drafted NHL goalie prospects ranking, 2024 edition

Scott Wheeler ranks the NHL's top 15 drafted goalie prospects. Plus, 10 honorable mentions.

www.nytimes.com

 

[lanceuppercut75]

LILJEGREN
JARNKROK
+ Hildeby
+ pick/prospect

for

BINNINGTON
SUNDQVIST

Blues sign a UFA goalie, or acquire Husso from DET for future considerations / 7th rounder
Hildeby waivers start in 2026, so new STL goalie needs to be 1 or 2 year contract

 

[General Fanager]

I'd take Binnington over Sarov 100 out of 100 times. a proven winner, who isnt under 6' tall
the only goalie I'd consider from Nashville is Askarov.
however, it will depends on the asking price, and Binnington isnt cheap and wouldnt be easy for the Leafs to fit 'and' get 2 'quality' UFA d-men to play in front of him.

I am confused why you would prefer the inferior goalie? Binnington went on 1 good run years ago and has been average ever since.....

 

[Junohockeyfan]

LILJEGREN
JARNKROK
+ Hildeby
+ pick/prospect

for

BINNINGTON
SUNDQVIST

Blues sign a UFA goalie, or acquire Husso from DET for future considerations / 7th rounder
Hildeby waivers start in 2026, so new STL goalie needs to be 1 or 2 year contract

That's awful for St. Louis. There is no motivation to trade Binny for that collection of crap. Crap that they get in UFA or within.

 

[tfriede2]

I am confused why you would prefer the inferior goalie? Binnington went on 1 good run years ago and has been average ever since.....

Binnington was elite this past season.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

That's awful for St. Louis. There is no motivation to trade Binny for that collection of crap. Crap that they get in UFA or within.

I didn't specify which pick(s) or prospect(s). Could be a 1st round pick. Could be Cowan. Minten. Niemela. Maybe there's a pick / prospect that makes it a fair deal.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Binnington would absolutely lose his mind in Toronto and I'm here for every second of it.