Player Discussion Joonas Korpisalo

[Over the volcano]

Love the New England attitude with when it comes to good things.

"Beautiful day out today"

"Just wait, it won't last"



His numbers so far look a whole lot like what he did in 2022-23 before moving to Ottawa.

 

[PlayMakers]

I don’t think it is as much about using the $2M backup goalie differential on a $2M F, it’s about using the $2M backup goalie differential plus the $3 or $4M 3rd pair dman differential (they are allocating $8.25M of cap there) and using that for a better F.

All the overpays added together add up. And then the other point not to be missed is the term. Korpi has played well overall these 8 games, credit to him, but will he keep it up for the rest of this year and 3 more as he ages into his mid 30s? His career average .900 says otherwise. Still a poor acquisition from a cap perspective.

Honestly, I never subscribed to this theory that you should spend all your money on the top 4 / top6 and the rest of the team plays for league minimum. I don't think it's realistic. I think you need a $3m 3rd pair D to anchor that pair and be someone who can slide into the top4 for injuries. I think you need one pricey 3rd liner for the same reason. I think most teams spend money on 7 F's and 5 D. (I wonder if that's why the expansion draft chose those numbers.)

I also think the Bruins have a healthy cap allocation. I don't see any bad contracts or money wasted (I'm giving Lindholm and Zadorov an Incomplete because it's only 20 games). Even Coyle, who people love to jump all over, put up 44 even strength points last year, and 40 the year before that. Most 2nd liners average 35 even strength points a season. Bergeron, his last 4 years here put up less than 40 ES points. Marchand put up 37 in each of the previous two seasons. Mikael Granlund, the big prize rental at the deadline this year, average 36 ES points. Chris Kreider, a guy the Bruins have long coveted, averages 37. So I think the Bruins have gotten their money's worth out of Coyle so far.

Long story short, I don't think Korpisalo was a bad acquisition from a cap perspective. If they didn't get Korpisalo in that trade, they would have signed a UFA to similar money for the same role. I do think Korpisalo had negative value at the time of the trade, so from a trade value perspective I think it's fair to be critical.

 

[Kalus]

Honestly, I never subscribed to this theory that you should spend all your money on the top 4 / top6 and the rest of the team plays for league minimum. I don't think it's realistic. I think you need a $3m 3rd pair D to anchor that pair and be someone who can slide into the top4 for injuries. I think you need one pricey 3rd liner for the same reason. I think most teams spend money on 7 F's and 5 D. (I wonder if that's why the expansion draft chose those numbers.)

I also think the Bruins have a healthy cap allocation. I don't see any bad contracts or money wasted (I'm giving Lindholm and Zadorov an Incomplete because it's only 20 games). Even Coyle, who people love to jump all over, put up 44 even strength points last year, and 40 the year before that. Most 2nd liners average 35 even strength points a season. Bergeron, his last 4 years here put up less than 40 ES points. Marchand put up 37 in each of the previous two seasons. Mikael Granlund, the big prize rental at the deadline this year, average 36 ES points. Chris Kreider, a guy the Bruins have long coveted, averages 37. So I think the Bruins have gotten their money's worth out of Coyle so far.

Long story short, I don't think Korpisalo was a bad acquisition from a cap perspective. If they didn't get Korpisalo in that trade, they would have signed a UFA to similar money for the same role. I do think Korpisalo had negative value at the time of the trade, so from a trade value perspective I think it's fair to be critical.

A $3M third pair dman is fine, I agree. Pair that guy with Wotherspoon / young guy in ELC and you are good. The point I made is that $8.25M is an overpay for the team’s 3rd pair. I said to take $3M or $4M from the 3rd pair and allocate elsewhere. That leaves $4.25M to $5.25M for the 3rd pair.

They overpaid for backup goalie and 3rd pair d. Money that can be used much better elsewhere.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Their overpaid backup goalie is the better goalie right now. Their overpaid starter is, well, just overpaid. That side of the argument about what to pay Swayman is bearing fruit. Thankfully the GM didn't listen to the "give him 10M, he'll be worth it", crowd.

 

[Mainehockey33]

The team is just playing better in front of Korpisalo right now. 1 less win than Swayman in 7 less games played. At least we’re getting wins from the backup.

 

[goldenblack]

Dude is a legit stud right now

Linus 5-7-2. 3.07 GAA and .888%, 1-4-1 in his last 6 , Sens a point out of last in the conference

 

[Kalus]

Credit where its due, Korpisalo has played above expectations so far this season at the 10 game mark. He’s earned a .909 and ranked 28th in GSAE per 60, that’s impressive.

 

[DKH]

Thank you Donny from HFB Bruins

 

[Over the volcano]

Dude is a legit stud right now

Linus 5-7-2. 3.07 GAA and .888%, 1-4-1 in his last 6 , Sens a point out of last in the conference

Think Swayman was referring to Ullmark specifically when he said he didn't want to ruin the goalie market. Boy oh boy did Ullmark sign his new deal at the right time.

Korpisalo .909 2.39
Swayman .892 3.09
Ullmark .888 3.07

 

[goldenblack]

Thank you Donny from HFB Bruins

Bunch of us knew right at the deal, you were one.

Recency bias is a hell of a thing in sports, makes people say dumb things. And then you see people like Vatrano and Kreider and Korpi and realize a lot of players have untapped potential and just need the right situation.

The assets we got on top were just unreal too.

Think Swayman was referring to Ullmark specifically when he said he didn't want to ruin the goalie market. Boy oh boy did Ullmark sign his new deal at the right time.

Legit happy for Linus. Ottawa is a wonderful town to raise a family. He's going to find his footing over the length of the deal. I just think the gap between Linus and Korpi was totally overblown, and goalie Bob knew it (and so did a bunch of us).

 

[LouJersey]

Their overpaid backup goalie is the better goalie right now. Their overpaid starter is, well, just overpaid. That side of the argument about what to pay Swayman is bearing fruit. Thankfully the GM didn't listen to the "give him 10M, he'll be worth it", crowd.

Thank God we can close the book on who was right and who was wrong 2 months into the trade and contract extension, was getting tiring.

 

[NDiesel]

Thank God we can close the book on who was right and who was wrong 2 months into the trade and contract extension, was getting tiring.

Hey many people closed the book 2 months ago when the trade was made if we are being honest.

 

[BruinDust]

Thank God we can close the book on who was right and who was wrong 2 months into the trade and contract extension, was getting tiring.

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

With the way the B's are playing, they're a bottom dweller offensively. So every timely save matters.
I was at the MTL game Sunday and all 3 goals let in by Swayman were soft against a "bottom-tier offensive club".
What's your point?
To be clear, with no disrespect to anybody here, Swayman should be the better goalie. That IS what they are paying for. But Jr has never had the burden of being THE starter or the target of the big underperforming paycheck. Right now Korpi is the more consistent goalie.
That may change, it should, it better. or the B's will have been blindsided by another bad contract.

 

[goldenblack]

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

It's just watching him in his net that's impressive frankly. Even one of the ones that got past him last night, he saved. He's rarely getting beat clean.

 

[goldenblack]

Hey many people closed the book 2 months ago when the trade was made if we are being honest.

Post of the day...

Today we KNOW that Kastelic and Korpi look like (at least) good NHL players, and we got a 1st. We know much more than that day...

We also have a sense of what Linus was going to re-up for, which is a bigger number than most expected.

 

[Over the volcano]

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

Over just those games he put up .932 and 1.74 which is better than other goalies are able to do against them on average.

 

[BruinDust]

With the way the B's are playing, they're a bottom dweller offensively. So every timely save matters.
I was at the MTL game Sunday and all 3 goals let in by Swayman were soft against a "bottom-tier offensive club".
What's your point?
To be clear, with no disrespect to anybody here, Swayman should be the better goalie. That IS what they are paying for. But Jr has never had the burden of being THE starter or the target of the big underperforming paycheck. Right now Korpi is the more consistent goalie.
That may change, it should, it better. or the B's will have been blindsided by another bad contract.

My point is context matters. He's played against teams that the Bruins have been able to handle defensively and he's stopped most of the shots he is suppose to. I like his work thus far, he looks fairly sound in the net.

Even if we look at the entire picture, the Bruins have feasted on weak offensive clubs (like themselves). 10-3-2 against teams ranked 20th-32nd in offense. Just 3 wins outside of that and two of those were in OT. Swayman has had some good performances against those weaker teams as well. Wins against the Habs, St. Louis, Detroit, Seattle.

I guess what I'm trying to say is the Bruins have had a cake-walk of a schedule so far this season when we really boil it down and the proof will be in the pudding when we get deeper into December and into Jan/Feb/March. We know this team struggles offensively. Because of the quality of the competition, we'll get a true sense of how they are defensively and in goal once they start playing better teams more often. They'll need Korpisalo as he's going to see the net 1 game out of every 3 on average.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Still don't agree, but Korpi haters gonna hate. Swayman's supposed to be a difference makers and he is not right now.
Korpi is doing his job as a backup better than Swayman's job as a starter. It's called Goalie Bob syndrome. But it only works when you are humble. (Swayman cough, cough)

As the say, number don't lie, people just choose to ignore them.

Plus he has had 3 good to great games out of his last 5, the 2 sh*tty games were against bad teams, sub 90% SV%. Not a Star performance at all.

 

[LouJersey]

Hey many people closed the book 2 months ago when the trade was made if we are being honest.

I think that could be a fair assessment

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

A save is a save regardless of what team it comes from. He's been brilliant

 

[Mad-Marcus]

I agree, Korpi's a Bruin now, support him like any other player that's pulling their weight.
I've been a huge Swayman fan since Orono. I can't wait until they both are playing consistently well and backboning this team to wherever they go this year. Goaltending should be the least of their problems.
The repeated stupid decisions with the puck on both ends is a far bigger problem than switch goalie is playing better.

 

[BruinDust]

Still don't agree, but Korpi haters gonna hate. Swayman's supposed to be a difference makers and he is not right now.
Korpi is doing his job as a backup better than Swayman's job as a starter. It's called Goalie Bob syndrome. But it only works when you are humble. (Swayman cough, cough)

As the say, number don't lie, people just choose to ignore them.

Plus he has had 3 good to great games out of his last 5, the 2 sh*tty games were against bad teams, sub 90% SV%. Not a Star performance at all.

Columbus are 8th overall in scoring. Don't mistake a bad team for a bad offense.

Numbers only matter when given the proper context.

A save is a save regardless of what team it comes from. He's been brilliant

I never said he hasn't been good. But not all saves are equal and call me when he's doing the same against strong offensive teams.

For the record, I was never in the "Korpi hater" camp. I like having quality back-up goaltending, you need it in today's league. People are just jumping to conclusions regarding Boston's goaltending (both goalies) over a skewed small sample size.

 

[TD Charlie]

Can anyone really say anything definitive about Korpisalo when he's mostly faced bottom-tier offensive clubs?

His last 7 starts

29th ranked offense - Islanders
28th - St. Louis
27th - Calgary
25th - Detroit
23rd - Utah
22nd - Philadelphia twice.

He can only play the games he’s given. I don’t care what Detroits position is in the standings, Korpisalo was the single biggest reason Boston took any points out of that game last night. Nevermind 2.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Columbus are 8th overall in scoring. Don't mistake a bad team for a bad offense.

Numbers only matter when given the proper context.


I never said he hasn't been good. But not all saves are equal and call me when he's doing the same against strong offensive teams.

For the record, I was never in the "Korpi hater" camp. I like having quality back-up goaltending, you need it in today's league. People are just jumping to conclusions regarding Boston's goaltending (both goalies) over a skewed small sample size.

My post wasn't meant to argue your point but, Its just not true. You can argue the volume of quality shots but that shouldn't matter either.

Timing of saves is also a big key to me. Korpi has made some massive saves to keep the Bruins in games again regardless of the standings.