Prospect Info: Jonathan Lekkerimaki, #15 Overall, 2022 NHL Draft

[Prntscrn]

Just watched an interview with Cam Robinson and he said that he wasn't rostered for the U20 tourney nor any of Ostlund and Ohgren.

The tourney was cancelled and i would think it would be disrespectful to the players already chosen who have one last chance at this and had it re scheduled to bump 3 or more from the roster for 17 barely 18yr olds.

It's pretty standard for Sweden that has a lot of depth and talent

He is part of the roster for the World Juniors this summer

https://www.swehockey.se/globalassets/svenska-ishockeyforbundet/landslag/herr/team-20/20212022/jvm/t20-roster-jvm-august-2022.pdf

 

[mathonwy]

Lekkerimaki Pettersson Podkolzin
Hoglander Horvat Boeser

Let's go for the next decade

Brock Boeser

 

[Nazzlind]

After watching some clips and the shift by shift that was posted, I don't expect skating to hold Maki Daddi back. I mean top speed is never going to be his defining feature, but he's good at using his edge work to create time and space.

And with his release, he doesn't need much of either.

If he doesn't end up becoming a top 6 player, it won't be because of his skating.

???

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

He is part of the roster for the World Juniors this summer

https://www.swehockey.se/globalassets/svenska-ishockeyforbundet/landslag/herr/team-20/20212022/jvm/t20-roster-jvm-august-2022.pdf

I heard he wasn’t as well but he’s a lock in December. I don’t think they were allowed to change the initial roster where he was not included. Would be great if he does play though.

 

[Prntscrn]

I heard he wasn’t as well but he’s a lock in December. I don’t think they were allowed to change the initial roster where he was not included. Would be great if he does play though.

He is 100% in. Him, William Wallinder and Mattias Hävelid I think are the players that made this team but wasn't part of the team in December/January

Holtz for example was part of the team this winter but New Jersey did not want to let him go for this tournament, so that's one spot to fill if there are certain rules in place.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I just watched a bunch of his footage and I don’t get the Boeser comparison. Boeser is more of a soft area, quick one-touch shooter who isn’t very mobile.

JL seemed much more comfortable moving around the ice and he was comfortable holding the puck and finding the right shot or pass (but I do agree he did sometimes miss the better pass options for a worse one or elect to shoot when he could have had passed). I see more of a Pastrnak to his game if anything the way he moves, shoots, and processes the game. I get the excitement about him from some scouts and the Canucks; if he’s anything close to a smaller Pastrnak-lite he can be a very good player.

if i’m remembering boeser’s pre-draft reel correctly, at the high school level boeser looked every bit as dynamic and all over the ice, including skating out of traffic with puck in hand

 

[logan5]

Given his performance as a 17 year old in the SHL, I'm putting J-Mak in a higher tier than Boeser.

 

[RutherPlan]

if i’m remembering boeser’s pre-draft reel correctly, at the high school level boeser looked every bit as dynamic and all over the ice, including skating out of traffic with puck in hand

Almost every NHL draftee dominates at high school level. I remember Matt Beattie looking like Jaromir Jagr at high school level.

In the NHL you only have a few seconds with the puck to create an opportunity, so you either need to score or pass efficiently. Lekkerimäki know how's to score as soon as the puck is on his stick, that's a pro game.

You can leave Hughes or Pettersson for zone entries, Lekkerimäki's only job is to score efficiently.

 

[Hoglander]

Really curious how much mono affected his play. Without it, he probably plays better, puts up more points, and isn't available at 15.

Mono, growth spurt, young draftee... and was still at the top production-wise among his peers? Hard not to get excited about the potential for some big steps forward in his development over the next few years.

 

[logan5]

Really curious how much mono affected his play. Without it, he probably plays better, puts up more points, and isn't available at 15.

Mono, growth spurt, young draftee... and was still at the top production-wise among his peers? Hard not to get excited about the potential for some big steps forward in his development over the next few years.

Somebody mentioned this late growth spurt before. Would like to see proof of this. If he's putting up these numbers while still growing like a 14 year old, that means something.

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

Somebody mentioned this late growth spurt before. Would like to see proof of this. If he's putting up these numbers while still growing like a 14 year old, that means something.

I saw this mentioned on these boards but I also didn't see it in any scouting reports or anywhere. I wonder if people are thinking of Owen Pickering for some reason, because he had a huge growth spurt last year, like 4 or 6 inches over the last couple years or something.

 

[Hoglander]

Somebody mentioned this late growth spurt before. Would like to see proof of this. If he's putting up these numbers while still growing like a 14 year old, that means something.

Ya, I think i just parroted it from another post I saw, could be BS.

And it seems like his scoring was tops at the U18's, but on his junior team (maybe this is where mono comes into play) he was out-paced by a good margin by Ohgren - but then JL out-paced Ohgren by an equally significant amount in the SHL.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Boeser does not play like someone who has strength and size. He may as well be 6'1 and 170 lbs.

That is obviously not true.

Given his performance as a 17 year old in the SHL, I'm putting J-Mak in a higher tier than Boeser.

This is why people always think their own team has AMMMAZING prospects.

Lets wait and see if Lekkerimäki can actually play in the NHL at all first and go from there.

 

[lawrence]

At 2:06:55 we see harvey flipping something which looks like a paper that shows red crosses out and a bunch of names. We can assume the red represents something being crossed out and probably names. White means not crosses out. Let’s assume wake means still available there is a bit of white after a bunch of reds. If this is the case the Canucks might have had Johnathan at around 6 or 7.

 

[RutherPlan]

The way Canucks reacted when drafting him and with Francesco tweeting about the pick, must have been ranked top 5.

 

[Hodgy]

I am not sure that it matters where the Canucks scouts ranked him. Our scouts are not distinguished and don’t really deserve the benefit of the doubt, so them thinking he was a top five or 7 is kind of meaningless.

Also, once you get out of the top few players in a draft basically every team is picking players who they ranked higher than their pick. It’s basically guaranteed.

 

[Hoglander]

I am not sure that it matters where the Canucks scouts ranked him. Our scouts are not distinguished and don’t really deserve the benefit of the doubt, so them thinking he was a top five or 7 is kind of meaningless.

Also, once you get out of the top few players in a draft basically every team is picking players who they ranked higher than their pick. It’s basically guaranteed.

You don't find it interesting to gain some insight into how your favorite team views the draft? I find it fascinating to see where they had this player ranked, and then compare to what actually happens moving forward. One can kind of get a feel for whether they know what they're doing or not, and whether adding all these bodies to the management side of things has this team going in the right direction or not.

 

[Hit the post]

Just watched an interview with Cam Robinson and he said that he wasn't rostered for the U20 tourney nor any of Ostlund and Ohgren.

The tourney was cancelled and i would think it would be disrespectful to the players already chosen who have one last chance at this and had it re scheduled to bump 3 or more from the roster for 17 barely 18yr olds.

It's pretty standard for Sweden that has a lot of depth and talent

Used to be a fair bit of politics (I know, no politics on HF ) with Team Sweded (guess that stuff does happen everywhere as in Canada). I think the Sedins at their peak got "relagated" to the 2nd line in a tournament or two.

I am not sure that it matters where the Canucks scouts ranked him. Our scouts are not distinguished and don’t really deserve the benefit of the doubt, so them thinking he was a top five or 7 is kind of meaningless.

Also, once you get out of the top few players in a draft basically every team is picking players who they ranked higher than their pick. It’s basically guaranteed.

At least with our Swedish scouts (Gradin & Co.) they've been decent enough. Probably appear/look significantly better because of the bloody awful amateur scouting from some Ex-Canuck, etc.,

 

[Hodgy]

You don't find it interesting to gain some insight into how your favorite team views the draft? I find it fascinating to see where they had this player ranked, and then compare to what actually happens moving forward. One can kind of get a feel for whether they know what they're doing or not, and whether adding all these bodies to the management side of things has this team going in the right direction or not.

Oh absolutely. I never said it wasn’t interesting. It’s just not overly meaningful to me.

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

Used to be a fair bit of politics (I know, no politics on HF ) with Team Sweded (guess that stuff does happen everywhere as in Canada). I think the Sedins at their peak got "relagated" to the 2nd line in a tournament or two.


At least with our Swedish scouts (Gradin & Co.) they've been decent enough. Probably appear/look significantly better because of the bloody awful amateur scouting from some Ex-Canuck, etc.,

I was interested so I charted it out.

Swedish Picks Since 1990

1st rounders
Ohlund, Sedin, Sedin, Pettersson, Lekkerimaki

2nd/3rd rounders
Alex Edler, Daniel Rahimi, Anton Rodin, Nils Höglander, Elias Pettersson

4-7
Bert Robertson, Jonas Soling, David Jonsson, Nicklas Danielsson, Peter Andersson, Ludwig Blomstrand, Patrik Westerholm, Henrik Tommernes, Anton Cederholm, Gustav Forsling, Kristoffer Gunnarsson, Arvid Costmar, Viktor Persson, Jonathan Myrenberg, Hugo Gabrielson, Lucas Forsell

 

[Hit the post]

I was interested so I charted it out.

Swedish Picks Since 1990

1st rounders
Ohlund, Sedin, Sedin, Pettersson, Lekkerimaki

2nd/3rd rounders
Alex Edler, Daniel Rahimi, Anton Rodin, Nils Höglander, Elias Pettersson

4-7
Bert Robertson, Jonas Soling, David Jonsson, Nicklas Danielsson, Peter Andersson, Ludwig Blomstrand, Patrik Westerholm, Henrik Tommernes, Anton Cederholm, Gustav Forsling, Kristoffer Gunnarsson, Arvid Costmar, Viktor Persson, Jonathan Myrenberg, Hugo Gabrielson, Lucas Forsell

Eddie Lack was a free agent amateur signing (spotted by the not retired Lars Lindgren) that we later flipped for a 3rd & 7th round pick.

I *think* Daniel Rahami, when he was drafted, didn't have that great of an upside. Course, he had all the physical tools (6'3" & over 210 pounds) to have a certain floor. Ended up carving out a career in Sweden & played for Team Sweden at least once I think.

 

[MarkMM]

At 2:06:55 we see harvey flipping something which looks like a paper that shows red crosses out and a bunch of names. We can assume the red represents something being crossed out and probably names. White means not crosses out. Let’s assume wake means still available there is a bit of white after a bunch of reds. If this is the case the Canucks might have had Johnathan at around 6 or 7.

It looks like two went WAY early according to the Canucks list, would be fun to guess which those two were.

 

[Nazzlind]

It looks like two went WAY early according to the Canucks list, would be fun to guess which those two were.

I feel like Mateychuk is a safe bet for one of them

 

[TryamkinPleaseReturn]

It looks like two went WAY early according to the Canucks list, would be fun to guess which those two were.

If I remember most of the pre draft lists I saw, the skaters who were sometimes rated towards the end of the first round were McGroarty, Nazar, Mateychuk, Geekie, Kasper, Gauthier and Korchinski. I think it's most likely two of them. I don't really believe the rumours about who they like or not pre draft... but the rumours were that they liked Kasper, and didn't like Mateychuk. For me, Nazar is too skilled to be ranked really low, and Gauthier has too much upside - I would guess these guys were likely not ranked super low. Of course it's their list, so I'm just guessing. But I'll narrow it down to

McGroarty, Mateychuk, Geekie and Korchinski. My best guess, using the rumours, I'll say Mateychuk and one of Geekie or McGroarty.

 

[RutherPlan]

I was told he can't skate or carry the puck