Johnston or Bylsma ? Who would you rather have coach this team

[StroShow]

Simple question , Who would you rather have coach this roster , Dan Bylsma or Mike Johnston ?

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[dr robbie]

Bylsma made for a fun regular season and no where in the playoffs.
Johnson mades for a boring regular season and potential in the playoffs.

I'd still take Bylsma. Would rather like watching 82 games and Crosby fighting for the scoring title, than watch this snorefest (even if it means we "have a chance" by focusing on defense)

 

[Son Goku]

Whatever helps us win in the playoffs.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

neither. just because MJ sucks doesn't make DB not suck just as hard.

 

[cajal]

Hospital food vs. airline food.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

neither. just because MJ sucks doesn't make DB not suck just as hard.

This...

 

[HuskerTornado]

Ditka

 

[Winger for Hire]

neither. just because MJ sucks doesn't make DB not suck just as hard.

Sooooo much this.

I'd be a rich man if I got a dollar every time I complained about MJ and someone has come back with, "I guess they shouldn't have fired Bylsma then, huh?"

No, just because the person hired after him sucks, doesn't make him any better.

 

[Asuna]

Guy Boucher.

 

[mpp9]

I'm not sure if MJ is the coach that'll take this team to a Cup, but this is a necessary transition phase for this group.

This team needs defensive structure beat into them after the years of garbage jailbreak hockey under DB. It's boring and not all that fun to watch, but it is necessary for this team to get back to playing like a team in tight games.

I think they'll look alot more like themselves in a few months and with better personnel on defense hopefully in the form of a DP callup and a trade.

 

[djt153]

let's be honest: bulama had among all of our most maligned players in their prime and wasn't smart enough to demand a fix for mafs positional coaching immediately

 

[madinsomniac]

I'd take the first 20 games of either over anything after they installed their "systems"

 

[madinsomniac]

And at least Johnstontrys a few different things... It's nice to have some variety of dumbassery to complain about

 

[cajal]

I'd take the first 20 games of either over anything after they installed their "systems"

This is very true, though that effect lasted through the cup in Bylsma's case.

With Johnston it seemed like the team celebrate DB being gone for about 1/3 of a season before realizing he's just as big of an idiot - at least with personnel decisions.

 

[ColePens]

Bylsma was the most arrogant *******... but the team believed in him. Johnston is a push over... and the team doesn't believe in his game. At least Johnston tries to change things up.

I'd go Johnston in a slight favorite. Both are not correct for this team.

 

[mpp9]

Bylsma was the most arrogant *******... but the team believed in him. Johnston is a push over... and the team doesn't believe in his game. At least Johnston tries to change things up.

I'd go Johnston in a slight favorite. Both are not correct for this team.

Why do you keep saying they're not buying in? It's a boring style and the transition game sucks, but I think the forwards are buying in quite well defensively. Specifically, Malkin. Who was never this good in all zones under DB.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Hospital food vs. airline food.

Nailed it.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Neither.

Just because I think Johnston is an idiot doesn't mean I don't think Bylsma isn't an idiot.

This thread is like asking who you'd rather have playing top four minutes this year: Rob Scuderi or Hal Gill. Just because I think Scuderi sucks doesn't mean I wish we still had Hal Gill instead.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Great post, OP.

You might need to read this, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

 

[Til the End of Time]

i'm not exactly sure that johnston is instilling the fundamentals, discipline, and defensive awareness that this team needs. i think this team needs more of a hard ass to drill those things into these players heads. johnston doesn't appear to be doing what therrien did when he was hired, which imo is more what this team needs.

i think the team is just boring now, without necessarily moving this team in the right direction.

 

[Winger for Hire]

I'd rather have 90+ point, all-world Malkin than 70 point all-rink Malkin, personally. He has two linemates and 2 defenders to clean up the defensive zone.

 

[mpp9]

I'd rather have 90+ point, all-world Malkin than 70 point all-rink Malkin, personally. He has two linemates and 2 defenders to clean up the defensive zone.

He's a center. He's doing what centers in this league do.

 

[Winger for Hire]

He's a center. He's doing what centers in this league do.

Maybe not being like traditional centers is what made him so great?

He's still very good, but when he was playing like a winger at center, he was one of the Top 3 players in the league.

 

[Mike Lange Version 2]

Beg Montreal for Therrien back? they seem to hate him

 

[Still Apps]

Some of the stuff Johnston does makes me nauseous. If I ever saw Dan Bylsma behind the Pens bench again I'd have unending spasms of projectile vomiting.