Value of: John Klingberg at the deadline
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Nikishin Go Boom
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The ask is a first from Anaheim. I wouldn’t touch Klingberg at 50% retained for a 3rd and a c prospect. The guy is awful.
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Ducks want a 1st
He’s not great defensively, but if he goes to a team who has good defenders he should bring added offense and power play production.
I really think for us to salvage a 1st out of him we’re going to have to do some work…. Retain 50% + take back a non expiring cap dump. Maybe add a 2nd or 3rd back.
Realistically I think a team will grab him late with a 2nd out of desperation.
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Definitely gonna have to be a guy the Ducks retain 50% on, just to make him a fit with a playoff team cap-wise.
Even then, i think he/his agent really botched this audition year sort of process. Going to the team he did, without the proper defencemen in place to help shelter him, has really done no favors to his reputatin and perceived value around the league. I think the jig is very much up when it comes to him being little more than a very expensive powerplay/offensive specialist. A taller Tyson Barrie, but in a situation that has made him look a lot worse even.
The Ducks can say the ask is a 1st round pick. But i think as the 11th hour rolls around on the deadline...they're probably going to have to settle for something less, just to get something out of this ill-fated project.
Even then, i think he/his agent really botched this audition year sort of process. Going to the team he did, without the proper defencemen in place to help shelter him, has really done no favors to his reputatin and perceived value around the league. I think the jig is very much up when it comes to him being little more than a very expensive powerplay/offensive specialist. A taller Tyson Barrie, but in a situation that has made him look a lot worse even.
The Ducks can say the ask is a 1st round pick. But i think as the 11th hour rolls around on the deadline...they're probably going to have to settle for something less, just to get something out of this ill-fated project.
Habs Halifax
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The only thing he got going for him right now is he is big and shoots right.
What was the rumor of what the Stars offered him to stay? He's probably wondering if he will make as much now over the long haul.
What was the rumor of what the Stars offered him to stay? He's probably wondering if he will make as much now over the long haul.
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I doubt he commands a first but he could have 2nd + 3rd type value or B + C prospect if you prefer. If Anaheim wants a 2023 first, they probably need to accept a condition that the recipient makes the conference finals or SCF, kind of like when the Stars traded Jagr to the Bruins for a pick that ended up a 1st rounder.
50% retention is assumed.
50% retention is assumed.
I could see him be Carolina's Domi-like pickup this year. In that Anaheim likes one of Carolina's B prospects and with 5 minutes left in the trade deadline the accept a swap. Something like Puistola or Honka plus a later pick.
Could see him being of interest in DC depending on the timeline for Carlson’s return but definitely not for a first as a rental. Could also see the Caps not being interested at all and being a seller at the deadline if February goes the same as January.
He’s got such bad defensive metrics, not sure why a playoff team would want to add his risky ass. But I’m sure some team will. Hope it’s Edmonton.
JoeSakic13
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Yeah he signed a “prove your worth” contract with Anaheim and so far it’s only seemed to hurt his value.
Sure the Ducks haven’t been great overall, but it’s really showcased his defensive inabilities.
So I estimate if he is moved it will be for someone who wants to use him in a bottom 4 /PP specialist role. With that I still expect him to return a 1st rounder, but it will be a very late one and my guess is that the only add would be a low value contract.
Sure the Ducks haven’t been great overall, but it’s really showcased his defensive inabilities.
So I estimate if he is moved it will be for someone who wants to use him in a bottom 4 /PP specialist role. With that I still expect him to return a 1st rounder, but it will be a very late one and my guess is that the only add would be a low value contract.
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Hell def get more than that… I think like the poster below me said 2nd + prospect for kling at 50.
If we want a 1st we’ll need to take back a cap dump that goes beyond this year or add a pick from our side…. It would take a lot of work from us to get a 1st .
But a desperate team will for sure put a 2nd on the table
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I wonder about Seattle? They seem set as a playoff team, and I think he's at least another scoring option for the defense that is relying heavily on Vince Dunn this year. And to a lesser extent Schultz.
RainyCityHockey
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Why?
The Kraken defenders are scoring well enough and Justin Schultz has actually been a very solid pick up for us.
We've also just added more depth on the blueline by trading for Jaycob Megna.
Makes no sense for Seattle at all.
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Megna provides no offense, and he's 30 playing his first full pro NHL season, so it's not a huge acquisition.
Look at it this way you are getting scoring out of Schultz and Larsson, in your top 4. If one of them goes down, your RD is suddenly Borgen and Fleury in starting roles down the depth chart, maybe Megna gets in instead of Fleury... how far do you go with that defense?
I'm thinking that's a way to upgrade a defense, that doesn't have prospects, and is only invested this year and next year in Schultz. Klingberg could easily take a spot on the team if he were signed long term.
Both will require 50% retention to maximize the return
RainyCityHockey
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It's not.
There's a reason why we didn't go for him in the summer and signed Schultz.
I also don't see how we now go after him and sign him longterm, especially with the fact that Dunn will need to re-signed etc.
The right hand side is also balanced well enough with Larsson, Schultz and Borgen and especially Borgen has been playing really well this season.
If we do more on the blueline it will be another depth guy and not Klingberg.
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At this point, he’s probably not high on anyone’s list. Almost everyone will need retention with him and that’s a nice chunk.
Maybe Seattle gives one of their 2nds, but only because they have 3. Still think that’s unlikely as we speak.
Reminds me of the Mike Green UFA year. I think Edmonton ended up getting him for a 4th or a 5th, when at the beginning of the season people thought he’d end up getting at least a 2nd in return. Possibly a 1st.
Things change quickly. There’s a few others too, who people will be shocked at how much less a team gets. On the flip side, there will also be others who get more than people thought.
Every deal is it’s own value now. Right now, he’s probably worth closer to a 4th than a 2nd.
Maybe Seattle gives one of their 2nds, but only because they have 3. Still think that’s unlikely as we speak.
Reminds me of the Mike Green UFA year. I think Edmonton ended up getting him for a 4th or a 5th, when at the beginning of the season people thought he’d end up getting at least a 2nd in return. Possibly a 1st.
Things change quickly. There’s a few others too, who people will be shocked at how much less a team gets. On the flip side, there will also be others who get more than people thought.
Every deal is it’s own value now. Right now, he’s probably worth closer to a 4th than a 2nd.
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most outsiders would not touch him with a ten foot pole right now. He like Barrie on the oilers--he looks like he puts up good numbers until you realize how bad he is in his own zone. Kling is on 7 a year and Barrie is on 4.5.
a team fighting to get in a wild card position might gamble in hope he helps the PP but a good team? he would be viewed as liability
Oilers have barrie--they do no need him as the OP suggeted
there has been no talk of him cause of how bad his play has been
Why would anyone pay that much? He is terrible. Why would a team be that desperate to allow more goals unless they are trying to tank?
