I didn't want to clog up the mid season player grade thread with talk about the coaching, but how do you guys think Hynes is doing this year?
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I think he's doing a very good job. Not easy with all the injuries, but he's trying out different things and is not as stubborn as the former guy.
Hard to criticize when you look at the nhl standings. But the PK is still a puzzle he needs to solve.
TaLoN
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PK will doom the postseason if it doesn't get fixed
I didn't mind Dean, but I think he's been an upgrade. Having a full training camp I think helped get them off to a better start this year. The injuries have been frustrating, but every team has them I guess.
I guess if we make the playoffs we will see if he can make changes on the fly better than Deano.
I guess if we make the playoffs we will see if he can make changes on the fly better than Deano.
TaLoN
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He's been a HUGE upgrade from Deano, but this PK situation is maddening
I miss Bruce and I think he was a great coach. I believe his deference to the vets was driven top down. Evason was garbage and Hynes is garbage.
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TaLoN
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Dr Jan Itor
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Missed games:
6 Kaprizov
13 Zuccarello
14 Eriksson Ek
10 Brodin
11 Middleton
8 Spurgeon
3rd in the West, 4th in the league at the halfway mark. Hard not give him credit.
6 Kaprizov
13 Zuccarello
14 Eriksson Ek
10 Brodin
11 Middleton
8 Spurgeon
3rd in the West, 4th in the league at the halfway mark. Hard not give him credit.
MrRuin
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Absolutely have to give Hynes credit. Coaching is all about building confidence and having your players buy into what you are preaching. The Wild are a prime example of a well coached team. Even the PK has picked it up lately. With all the bodies missing it is even more important to execute a game plan well. The Wild are almost impeccable in doing that each game. That’s a sign of the team buying into the coach’s ideas. Solid A for Hynes and his team.
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TaLoN
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Dr Jan Itor
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Update:
29 Kaprizov
13 Zuccarello
24 Eriksson Ek
28 Brodin
11 Middleton
15 Spurgeon
4 Faber
13 Hartman
7th in the West, 12th in the League.
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BagHead
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I'm pretty sure the Wild have not been hit the hardest in the NHL in terms of man-games lost, but I'd wager the quality of man-games lost is among the highest.
I mostly approve of the way Hynes puts lines together even if he is kind of a milquetoast personality. Evason seemed like a coach you’d go through a wall for but was stubborn and slow to make seemingly obvious changes.
I bashed on Evason as much as anyone when he was here, but he's done a hell of a job this year with CBJ.
I think Hynes is a meh (middle ground) coach. He's not a good coach, nor is he a bad coach. Meaning he's not going to win you many games, but he's not going to lose you many games either. He's as good as the roster, and current roster is what it is.
Evason's teams were middle of the pack on both special teams units. Under Hynes, the PP continues at more or less the same pace, but the PK is abysmal. I thought it was to do partly with the poor FO %, but both Evason's and Hynes teams had equally poor FO% overall. I would be curious to see what the FO% is/was on the PK, though.
Guerin has done a poor job of procuring forward talent. Not sure I can blame Hynes for not getting more out of Hartman, Johansson(he's a 2m player), Gaudreau, and the like.
Guerin has done a poor job of procuring forward talent. Not sure I can blame Hynes for not getting more out of Hartman, Johansson(he's a 2m player), Gaudreau, and the like.
Circulartheory
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I like him. My biggest gripe with Evason was he wouldn't make any changes to his line combos. Solid coach but it felt like we lost 2-3 seasons in the 1st round because of that.
Hynes will move lines when things get stagnant, I like that. Let's see if that can translate into the playoffs.
Hynes will move lines when things get stagnant, I like that. Let's see if that can translate into the playoffs.
Puhis
We can't expect Lucifer to do all the work.
He's got pragmatic vibes, which I like. Has a habit of doing what he needs to in order to win, even if it means being as exciting as a Nickelback album. He doesn't seem like a genius type of coach or anything, but seems like a good fit for who we are currently. I'd grade him B, maybe B-.
Hynes deserves a lot of blame for running our players into the ground. He was double shifting Kap in his second game back after missing months.
If you can watch how that team came out and the effort , compete level and overall commitment they brought and your answer is to double shift Kap then I think he needs to be fired. It’s just so ridiculously out of touch. His team plays like he’s lost the room unless thy are playing a far lesser opponent. This team knows they are the proverbial knife in a gun fight whenever the going gets tough and it shows.
Jesus comma Brodin
Effing Norris-Byng Brodin
If it’s really about “f***ing winning” like BG says, you can’t go into next season with Hynes. Scared coaching, and zero adjustments aside from Merrill while Gaudreau, Nyquist, Mojo, Brazeau, Middleton, Bogosian have had literally ZERO positive impact on this series yet we keep trotting them out there.
Gaudreau, and Nyquist make up 2/3rds of our “3rd line” and have a combined 2 shots on goal and 6 total attempts through game 5 while also getting absolutely ran through each game. On-ice Gaudreau’s shot attempt differential at 5v5 is -50. Both are playing significantly more than Rossi, and if it weren’t for Foligno that line would be ‘pointless’. Middleton has been a liability every time he’s on the ice, and while they were better in game 5 then the previous 2, they still weren’t great.
Cassidy made a ton of changes for game 5, making changes across the board and we were out attempted by 22 shots, doubled in HDCs, and their best player had by far his best game.
Coaches make adjustments. Hynes is afraid to, and the one adjustment he had last night was completely unnecessary and f***ed the team over. Nothing is going to happen, that’s been proven to not matter but this team is going nowhere with him if he can’t see the obvious. We were 20 seconds away from missing the playoffs all together and now that we’re here, he’s doing the opposite of maximizing our chances. Out of all 16 teams in the playoffs, at even strength, we have the lowest xG% of all, 2nd worst Corsi %, worst Fenwick %, and the 2nd worst xGA.
Gaudreau, and Nyquist make up 2/3rds of our “3rd line” and have a combined 2 shots on goal and 6 total attempts through game 5 while also getting absolutely ran through each game. On-ice Gaudreau’s shot attempt differential at 5v5 is -50. Both are playing significantly more than Rossi, and if it weren’t for Foligno that line would be ‘pointless’. Middleton has been a liability every time he’s on the ice, and while they were better in game 5 then the previous 2, they still weren’t great.
Cassidy made a ton of changes for game 5, making changes across the board and we were out attempted by 22 shots, doubled in HDCs, and their best player had by far his best game.
Coaches make adjustments. Hynes is afraid to, and the one adjustment he had last night was completely unnecessary and f***ed the team over. Nothing is going to happen, that’s been proven to not matter but this team is going nowhere with him if he can’t see the obvious. We were 20 seconds away from missing the playoffs all together and now that we’re here, he’s doing the opposite of maximizing our chances. Out of all 16 teams in the playoffs, at even strength, we have the lowest xG% of all, 2nd worst Corsi %, worst Fenwick %, and the 2nd worst xGA.
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