Confirmed with Link: Johansen to Nashville for Seth Jones

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If it turns out to be good - which it can - it will be the result of good fortune, not good planning.

And good fortune would be a first for the CBJ.

Viqsi.. please keep your optimistic viewpoint on the CBJ... you have always been the patient one in the fan base.

you also know the Preds better than anyone else - do you see the 21 year old Seth Jones being able to galvanize the CBJ blue line.. Murray Jones Werenski, Savard, Paliotta, Falk, Bod..
 

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oh yeah, he/she's just a wealth of hockey knowledge, more like proof if you ***** loud enough people will have no choice but to listen.
 

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Interesting part about the Jones-Johansen airport meet was that Joey had originally hoped to catch a train to Tennessee. So he had to pay extra to get his hockey stick aboard the plane but luckily his bindle was counted as hand luggage.
 

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Congrats. You guys just got a phenonemal player-to be. I think Jones will be better than Subban.

Not sure if any of you realise this but most people thinks Nashville gave way too much. Jones is gonna be a stud.
 

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After having a day to digest this, honest to God, I'd move Boone Jenner to center. He could actually become better than Johansen there.
 

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Not a good trade. Jackets gave up the better player and all the preds had to do was give up their 3rd best dman. In the hopes that maybe, someday, on down the road...he MIGHT be as good as RyJo is now. After years of being owned by that team, all they had to do was give up an expendable to get one of the Jackets core players.

It would be like us giving up Jenner or Wennberg to get Shattenkirk.

The Jackets are nothing more than a farm team for the NHL.

I totally disagree with this.. Seth Jones given the minutes last year in the playoffs was on par with Hedman or Doughty. He will be given the chance to be the man for the Blue Jackets.. Johansen is going to be a great player, but I was becoming convinced it wouldn't be with us. My thought is he would worm his way back to Vancouver and then become great. I have no problem with him having to play for the Preds & I hope he turns things around there.
 

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After having a day to digest this, honest to God, I'd move Boone Jenner to center. He could actually become better than Johansen there.

I know Johansen got fancy with his no-look passes but Jenner's passing leaves something to be desired. Johansen was the better playmaker when he wanted to be
 

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Still can't believe we traded him.

Wonder how many fans will boo Joey when he comes back

I don't think many will. It's not like he demanded out or dissed the city on the way out

I just hope his highlight video has that clip of him taking the face off from the Minnesota game where he completely wiffed on the puck though

:laugh:
 

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oh yeah, he/she's just a wealth of hockey knowledge, more like proof if you ***** loud enough people will have no choice but to listen.

If this were true, why hasn't everyone come over to my side? There's certainly been ample opportunity, and I'm always right anyway.:popcorn:

If you're referring to Viqsi, she's legitimately one of the most knowledgeable posters around.
 

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Still can't believe we traded him.

Wonder how many fans will boo Joey when he comes back

I guarantee it will be less than what Nash/Carter gets, but it will be loud and clear. Just sitting in the stands the past few months you could tell the tide was going against Joey by the fans. It's going to be pretty loud. I mean, Zherdev got boo'd and some people will compare the two situations
 

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Read all the posts last night trying to see if it would help me get a sense of where I'm at with this trade - and it didn't. I ended up agreeing with nearly every post as I read it, even ones that were in opposition to each other.:)

Anyway so I'll use this post as a repository of connected thoughts, because I know how badly everyone has waited to see what I would have to say about the trade:

I recently had a bit of clarity on Johansen. Not everyone will agree, but it's something that made sense to me. I think he was no longer having fun playing hockey. He's immature, and I don't know that he knew how to handle the succession of the heart thing, the nature of the tough love he was getting and the lack of success on the ice. I'm not getting into whether the leadership or organization is to "blame" - I think everyone was doing their best to do what they thought was best. But the floating, confused Joey we've been seeing, I don't believe was an attempt to get out of Columbus, I think he genuinely liked it here. And I don't think it was pouting or a protest of how he was being treated or (fully) a conditioning issue. I think he didn't enjoy his job, and he dealt with it poorly, like many young people do.

I had come to grips the he would be traded. I think he's going to be very good, and I didn't want it to happen, despite his sub-par play this season. But I think it was not only an organizational excising of a player they thought was a problem. There was likely some consideration given to how much his next contract would be, even if negotiated down, and how much money that meant would be devoted to forwards, and that, coupled with the player's lack of direction, led the FO to decide the time was right. Now, is there "blame" at the organizational level for putting itself in a position not to be able to afford its young star player? For sure.

I had hoped the return would be greater. I love Jones as the player he might become. But I see the questions surrounding each player differently. Johansen had already played at a high level, so to me his questions weren't about how good of a player he could be, but how good he would be. Whereas with Jones we don't even know how good he could be. I think this is the distinction that Viqsi is getting at. I acknowledge that both are areas of unknown.

I'm not happy with how this looks on the FO, and I share the concerns some have with regard to the motivations behind the way the roster is built and what I perceive as a lack of direction. There's a lot more to post on this topic but it's probably better suited to another thread and another time.

That said I would never suggest anything like "I hope Joey goes off and the FO comes to regret this." That would likely mean that Jones didn't max out and the CBJ has gotten worse. I don't want that to happen, so I'll just wait and see, both short and long term, how the trade - both Joey going and Seth coming - affects the team and its performance. It should go without saying that, despite whatever reservations, I want the Jackets to be successful.

You did not disappoint DSL.. this post is spot on. was it a good trade who the **** knows eh, but I think it was a good deal, done for the right reasons. If we got a #1 Dman it will be a great deal regardless. Those guys lead their teams to championships see Duncan Keith, Drew Doughty & such.
 

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I don't think many will. It's not like he demanded out or dissed the city on the way out

I just hope his highlight video has that clip of him taking the face off from the Minnesota game where he completely wiffed on the puck though

:laugh:

Probably none. He didn't diss the city like Carter did.
 

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I totally disagree with this.. Seth Jones given the minutes last year in the playoffs was on par with Hedman or Doughty. He will be given the chance to be the man for the Blue Jackets.. Johansen is going to be a great player, but I was becoming convinced it wouldn't be with us. My thought is he would worm his way back to Vancouver and then become great. I have no problem with him having to play for the Preds & I hope he turns things around there.

Wow. As a Preds fan that was at every home game against the Blackhawks and glued to the TV for the road games, I can say unequivocally that is not close to being true. Jones looked pretty decent offensively against the Hawks, even carried the puck pretty well most of the time, in his own zone though, it was often a disaster. It is not an overstatement to say that he was on the ice for almost every single Chicago goal and directly responsible for some. I think he'll end up a top pairing guy, probably somewhere along the lines of an Erik Johnson, more or less. Some of you are extremely overrating his current ability though. D-men take some time, don't heap too many expectations on him too early.
 

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I won't boo Johansen. I will just think of what could have been.
 

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If this were true, why hasn't everyone come over to my side? There's certainly been ample opportunity, and I'm always right anyway.:popcorn:

If you're referring to Viqsi, she's legitimately one of the most knowledgeable posters around.

I like Viqsi except when she breaks out the flamethrower and starts setting things on fire. :laugh:
 

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Wow. As a Preds fan that was at every home game against the Blackhawks and glued to the TV for the road games, I can say unequivocally that is not close to being true. Jones looked pretty decent offensively against the Hawks, even carried the puck pretty well most of the time, in his own zone though, it was often a disaster. It is not an overstatement to say that he was on the ice for almost every single Chicago goal and directly responsible for some. I think he'll end up a top pairing guy, probably somewhere along the lines of an Erik Johnson, more or less. Some of you are extremely overrating his current ability though. D-men take some time, don't heap too many expectations on him too early.

He'll fit right in then. That's what the rest of our defensemen do against Chicago! :sarcasm:
 

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I guarantee it will be less than what Nash/Carter gets, but it will be loud and clear. Just sitting in the stands the past few months you could tell the tide was going against Joey by the fans. It's going to be pretty loud. I mean, Zherdev got boo'd and some people will compare the two situations

Zherdev did that hold out and threaten to go to the KHL thing. He was never the same after that. He deserved what he got.
 

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I totally disagree with this.. Seth Jones given the minutes last year in the playoffs was on par with Hedman or Doughty. He will be given the chance to be the man for the Blue Jackets.. Johansen is going to be a great player, but I was becoming convinced it wouldn't be with us. My thought is he would worm his way back to Vancouver and then become great. I have no problem with him having to play for the Preds & I hope he turns things around there.

Seriously? I don't know what playoffs you were watching. When was the last time Hedman or Doughty were minus-6 in 6 playoffs games? He was good offensively, but bad defensively and looked more like Dougie Hamilton than those two. He's still a project, and pretty risky one.
 
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Viqsi.. please keep your optimistic viewpoint on the CBJ... you have always been the patient one in the fan base.

you also know the Preds better than anyone else - do you see the 21 year old Seth Jones being able to galvanize the CBJ blue line.. Murray Jones Werenski, Savard, Paliotta, Falk, Bod..

It's not impossible. The thing is, at this point we likely have a solid blueline, and we've got a solid forward corps. But you need more than "solid" to make it far in the NHL - at least one of those should be "exceptional".

There's a chance for that on the blueline. If this works out, it'll work out incredibly well. I'm just... not feeling it right now, for whatever reason, and so I'm kind of desperately searching for reason to feel better about it by dumping all the irrational panic on this board and hoping that when folks call me out on it I see something convincing. As it is... I'm still waiting to see how Jones plays here. And worrying.

It also doesn't help that the last time I was seriously worried about a trade like this was when we picked up The Former #7. Not that I expect a similar outcome by any stretch of the imagination, but I wanted Campbell or Burns instead, and, well...

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I like Viqsi except when she breaks out the flamethrower and starts setting things on fire. :laugh:

You people never let me have any fun. :cry: ;)
 

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The criticism of him never really abated from the contract negotiation on. Management always had contempt for him and never hid it. Tortorella, desperate for a last opportunity, just ramped it up as a mouthpiece for his superiors. "Learning to be a pro" and his other veiled criticisms were just an extension of the "joey lacks work ethic" campaign.

No big deal, though. Just a 23 year old All Star #1C gone. Nash, Gaborik, Carter and Johansen couldn't fit with this joke of an organization. Clarkson and Bourque are more CBJ style.

It's amazing that anyone has any faith in this absurdly bad management team. Utterly amazing.

Come on, Overhardt, shouldn't you be working on getting a Rychel trade done now?
 
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