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Prospect Info: Joel Eriksson Ek (C) - 20th Overall, 2015

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JEE had a killer second half and playoffs. I could care less about burning a year of his contract unless there is some rule I don't know about with expansion. We're all in at this point so why not bring in a clear upgrade to white and/or haula who are garbage right now.
 
We are all arm-chairing this without having seen him play a shift since getting a significant role increase in Sweden. We sent him back to allow him to develop and he took full advantage of it. If he has improved as much as it appears since the first 9 games, then I don't understand how anyone can argue this. He could come out and be a point machine and yes it would be a blow to burn a year, but in the same who is to say in the next two years he wont prove his worth. It would be a blow to not have that extra year at a cheaper rate, but I am trying to be optimistic. He will prove his worth and we will have to pay it out sooner... a problem, but a good one to have. I get he could come out and show nothing has changed, odds of which I don't believe to be high but even still, it is worth the risk.

Not being mentioned is the confidence that it will bring to him. For him to have been sent back, worked so hard all year, and now get called up when a team needs it most has to be an ultimate pat on the back. He is a hard worker and future captain material. I have a feeling he takes this to heart and Koivu esque, will be VERY proud on the ice and do so while providing.

Others have mentioned the spark in the rear this might give everyone else just by having pressure. But I think the main spark was EARNED by JEE. Also.. the guy who needs pressure is Dubs. I am a firm believer if he had even an OUNCE of threat from Kuemper he would have upped his game long ago, hard for any combination of lines to get anything going when its ruined by the softest of soft goals, they have zero confidence.

The only thing more sure that scoring a goal high glove on Dubs, is that JEE will be an even better player than when he left. Good move.
 
FrodoBeggins said:
Is there anyone else who thinks that next season he will fight for the Calder Cup?
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Do you mean Calder Memorial Trophy for best NHL rookie? It's possible... There are a few really dynamic offensive forwards likely coming into the league next year though. Kyle Connor (WPG) and Colin White (OTT) to name a couple.
 
Aurinko said:
Bullcrap! Haula is versatile and important guy. Playing with EEK will also give him a chance to get back to the scoreboard.
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People need to take the Haula speed loving glasses off. When the coach is benching your future "shut down checking line C" for the last 12 mins of a tried game at the age of 26 that's pretty telling what they think of his overall game.
 
DANOZ28 said:
i must say that was a sweet goal last night. i'd rather call him joel than jule.
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A more correct pronunciation would be yule I guess. Not really, but better then jewel, jule or some other stuff I've heard.

Kind of like in this video but with another L-sound that I don't think Americans are capable of doing :D You pronounce all letters further back in your mouth so I guess it's hard to do.

 
Dr Jan Itor said:
Hope the contract thing doesn't bite us, but as we saw with Dumba, it definitely can.
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Dumba bit us, because it was obvious he wasn't ready yet and they played him like two more games than than the limit before sending him back for good. I was a big critic of that move.

I've got no problem with burning it on a player that is ready to help for a playoff run. Apples and oranges to me.
 
GMAN23 said:
People need to take the Haula speed loving glasses off. When the coach is benching your future "shut down checking line C" for the last 12 mins of a tried game at the age of 26 that's pretty telling what they think of his overall game.
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I think it's more telling of what they thought of his linemates. They shortened the bench. If there were 3 Haula quality players on the 4th line at the moment, they probably wouldn't have.
 
There is an argument that burning a year of a contract is not a waste so long as you sign him long term before he goes to free agency.

Using Dumba as an example, the Wild will be able to sign him for less dollar amounts because he will be re-signing 1 year prior to when he otherwise would have been.

Or with JEE, think how much money you can save if you re-sign him long term before his breakout year.

It wont necessarily work out that way, and he does get to free agency faster, but there is an argument for it.
 
nickschultzfan said:
There is an argument that burning a year of a contract is not a waste so long as you sign him long term before he goes to free agency.

Using Dumba as an example, the Wild will be able to sign him for less dollar amounts because he will be re-signing 1 year prior to when he otherwise would have been.

Or with JEE, think how much money you can save if you re-sign him long term before his breakout year.

It wont necessarily work out that way, and he does get to free agency faster, but there is an argument for it.
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He actually won't get to free agency faster. Burning a year of the ELC, doesn't necessarily count as an accrued season for Free Agency. You need to be on the NHL roster for 40 regular season games for an accrued season, and JEE can only get 16.

So JEE isn't becoming a UFA until 27.
 
Aceofspades said:
This is the biggest thing and last time he filed for arbitration.
He needs to go also as the prospect pool is looking good.
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He doesn't "need" to go because of prospects. He'll start out on the 3rd line again next year, and if one of them outplays him it's not a bad thing to have depth and a good 4th line C. If he goes, it's a sad reality of our cap situation.

Although, with the recent news of of the cap likely going up by 2 or 3 million, there is a chance he'll be back.

Arbitration isn't necessarily a bad thing. For players in Haula's price range, all it does is ensure a contract gets done.
 
nickschultzfan said:
There is an argument that burning a year of a contract is not a waste so long as you sign him long term before he goes to free agency.

Using Dumba as an example, the Wild will be able to sign him for less dollar amounts because he will be re-signing 1 year prior to when he otherwise would have been.

Or with JEE, think how much money you can save if you re-sign him long term before his breakout year.

It wont necessarily work out that way, and he does get to free agency faster, but there is an argument for it.
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My bone to pick with burning this year of his ELC is due to the fact that he looks great. I think he'll warrant a big payday, and I'd like to squeeze that extra year out of his ELC.

Regardless, I'm happy he's doing well right now.
 
Just a fantasy hockey GM posting here.

I wouldn't worry too much about the ELC, especially if the kid can be a useful player for you this year. The big thing is the 40 game limit, which would make him a FA faster. It's not possible for him to get there (unless they count playoff games?).

Anyways with the way RFA signings have gone the past year (Kuch, Lindholm, Trouba), don't sign, don't play. I wouldn't worry about paying him a large sum in the near future. And when the time comes that you have to pay up, it'll be after many years of productive hockey for you guys, at which point, can you really complain?
 
BIitz said:
Just a fantasy hockey GM posting here.

I wouldn't worry too much about the ELC, especially if the kid can be a useful player for you this year. The big thing is the 40 game limit, which would make him a FA faster. It's not possible for him to get there (unless they count playoff games?).

Anyways with the way RFA signings have gone the past year (Kuch, Lindholm, Trouba), don't sign, don't play. I wouldn't worry about paying him a large sum in the near future. And when the time comes that you have to pay up, it'll be after many years of productive hockey for you guys, at which point, can you really complain?
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Yes, we always complain... about something.
 
BIitz said:
Just a fantasy hockey GM posting here.

I wouldn't worry too much about the ELC, especially if the kid can be a useful player for you this year. The big thing is the 40 game limit, which would make him a FA faster. It's not possible for him to get there (unless they count playoff games?).

Anyways with the way RFA signings have gone the past year (Kuch, Lindholm, Trouba), don't sign, don't play. I wouldn't worry about paying him a large sum in the near future. And when the time comes that you have to pay up, it'll be after many years of productive hockey for you guys, at which point, can you really complain?
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Yep, they count playoff games.

See here.
 
You're not getting to 40 games this year anyway. He's on 10 now + 5 regular season games leaves 25 games to get to 40. That's Stanley Cup final territory and more often then not it gets done within 25 games.
 
Isn't the interesting thing really what the guy can do on the ice? If we look further we think we become GM's or whatever corporate guy that doesn't care about the player himself. Some guys here think they can do better than the coach and some guys think they can do better than the GM.

Of course we care about the club, but what is the club? It is money and only money! That's why I sometimes think that we should get off our high horses and think about the players like human beings, and not think like a GM. Because we are the generic people, we are people that like the sport. Why not think like a human being and not think like a corporate mother****er.

It doesn't matter what we think anyway. Can't we just appreciate the sport, the athleticism and the brilliance we see from the players several times a week. Why do we have to be *******s.

I'm sorry, it's just my friday night drunken brain expressed in words after I read some of the posts here.
 
I mean, assuming he plays every remaining game this regular season, he'll be at 15 games. 40-15=25 games remaining.

That takes us to game 4 of the SCF, assuming all other series go 7 games.

If we make it that deep into the playoffs, and he's contributing to that, I guess I'm fine with burning that year.
 
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