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Confirmed with Link: Jiricek, 2025 5th to Minnesota for Hunt, conditional 2025 1st, 2026 3rd and 4th, 2027 2nd

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CBJWerenski8 said:
Guarantee she knows more than what you’re assuming you know/believe.
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Lets just say I doubt the AHL affiliate beat writer knows the ins and outs of the Jiricek situation.

Believe whatever you want but I doubt it's as black and white as she's putting it.
 
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I think you are forgetting Luca Marelli who is a RD and dominating right now , Elick will be another to watch .
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No. I am high on both. Plus Henricks. Hence the phrase
“while a bunch of draft picks with decent size and good skating are given plenty of time to develop.”

We already have Severson signed too long. I am willing to extend the recently waived Fabbro, but I am not giving him a long contract. He is one of those guys that seems to only play well with the right partner, and in his case the right partner seems to be a top 15 defensemen in the league. PS: Marrelli has 2 Rs.
 
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Double-Shift Lasse said:
Do we have the full content referenced in the tweet?
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That's a fair comment to make.

Not really here to debate the wording of the tweet. I just highly doubt an AHL beat writer is in the know. Especially for a guy who a spent a total of 4 games there this season.
 
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Napoli said:
That's a fair comment to make.

Not really here to debate the wording of the tweet. I just highly doubt an AHL beat writer is in the know. Especially for a guy who a spent a total of 4 games there this season.
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You’re saying the reporter does not cultivate contacts within the organization why? Because they cover a minor league team?
 
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majormajor said:
I've never been a Waddell guy. But Waddell has no pretense of being a scout, he had offers from half the league for our scouts to go through and this is the return they liked the most. That might say a lot about Hunt. Our amateur scouts knew him well from Moose Jaw.



So I'm not going to complain about Waddell passing on the best offer, they obviously went with their favorite. The one thing under Waddell's control is the timing - did he wait too long to make a trade? Did he go too soon? You can make an argument for either one if you want to.
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why have you “never been a waddell guy”?
 

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Double-Shift Lasse said:
Read the tweet and tell me what point was made that required the reporter to know exactly what is discussed between Waddell and Jiricek’s agent.
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Hes not unhappy playing in the AHL, he just wants to play hockey..

These are all things I doubt. Jiricek should have never made this team to start the year. He has shown in the past to be unhappy playing in the AHL. I highly doubt that all went away.
 
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Hes not unhappy playing in the AHL, he just wants to play hockey..

These are all things I doubt. Jiricek should have never made this team to start the year. He has shown in the past to be unhappy playing in the AHL. I highly doubt that all went away.
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None of that requires the reporter to know the full extent of that’s being said between GM and agent. But if you’re comfortable making statements about the content without actually consuming the content, you do you.
 
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Double-Shift Lasse said:
None of that requires the reporter to know the full extent of that’s being said between GM and agent. But if you’re comfortable making statements about the content without actually consuming the content, you do you.
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Well we don't know the full picture and neither does some random beat writer. You can't say you don't need to know what's going on between GM and agent and then say there's no issues with the player. Truthfully, no one knows until Don comes out and says it.
 
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Napoli said:
Well we don't know the full picture and neither does some random beat writer. You can't say you don't need to know what's going on between GM and agent and then say there's no issues with the player. Truthfully, no one knows until Don comes out and says it.
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I’m just saying why don’t you verify the tweet via the content and then see.
 

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majormajor said:
So I'm not going to complain about Waddell passing on the best offer, they obviously went with their favorite. The one thing under Waddell's control is the timing - did he wait too long to make a trade? Did he go too soon? You can make an argument for either one if you want to.
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This post pretty much sums the actual factual stuffs about the trade. That's the best offer (in their minds) they got, so that's about what Jiricek is worth at the moment. Time will tell about the timing.

On a general note, I think people are too quick to dismiss Jiricek as a player, he's 21 and for a big guy with some skating issues, especially a defense man, that is nothing. Maybe the front office isn't happy with his progress, or maybe this trade has nothing to do with that, but bottom line a 21-year old defense man is not a finished product and going "oh well, he showed some talent but didn't happen" is way too early.

That said I do get the vibe maybe they don't have a lot of faith in him, otherwise this trade would seem rushed. If they thought he'll be a stud, his value would just be going up from here and "doing a solid" for a player who has not yet even established themselves as a regular NHLer is just not reason enough for trade.

If Jiricek doesn't pan out well long term, then even what they got will be a great return, but it could also seem like a really stupid trade down the road. Not considering possible off-ice issues, at this point I'd be inclined to still rather take the flyer on Jiricek even though he's been underwhelming so far, but of course that could change if I knew what he's like to work with behind the scenes. Let me put it this way, even with his somewhat lackluster performance on-ice so far, I doubt many people would be very happy about this trade without the perceived drama.
 

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koteka said:
No. I am high on both. Plus Henricks. Hence the phrase
“while a bunch of draft picks with decent size and good skating are given plenty of time to develop.”

We already have Severson signed too long. I am willing to extend the recently waived Fabbro, but I am not giving him a long contract. He is one of those guys that seems to only play well with the right partner, and in his case the right partner seems to be a top 15 defensemen in the league. PS: Marrelli has 2 Rs.
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Still have Gudbranson for 1 more season. Cuelsmann, Elick, Marrelli in the pipeline, but have time for the last 2. Cuelemans only in his 2nd year as a pro. Might need another season, as almost all 2021 picks due to the lost covid season of 20/21, where he played just 8 games in the AJHL. Then Gudbranson's deal will come off the books.

Just don't need to go too long on Fabbro. Probably not more than 3 years.
 
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Jiricek getting called up to the big club, guess we'll get to see if he fits in right away or not.
 
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