Jim Rutherford: Tinker or Thinker?

[SillyRabbit]

Rutherford’s an old-school GM who negotiates through the media. Yes, he absolutely is trying to make Quinn the bad guy because he knows the media will run with that narrative and the fans will follow, which will put massive pressure on the player. While a different situation, look at how Rantanen has gotten dragged the past year after sticking to his guns in negotiation. It can make life miserable for a player and changes the pressure dynamics for the front office.

What's his goal?

Trying to shame Hughes into re-signing?

I don't understand how this strategy does anything other than piss off the Canuck's best player, and lower his trade value at the same time?

 

[tarheelhockey]

What's his goal?

Trying to shame Hughes into re-signing?

I don't understand how this strategy does anything other than piss off the Canuck's best player, and lower his trade value at the same time?

Again it’s old school GM’ing. Make the player have to answer questions every single day, make him look like a jerk to the community, make him read the wrong kind of headlines about himself. Leverage the pressure to make him more pliable.

Is it the right approach, probably not. But JR has been doing this sort of thing for a long time.

 

[SI90]

What's his goal?

Trying to shame Hughes into re-signing?

I don't understand how this strategy does anything other than piss off the Canuck's best player, and lower his trade value at the same time?

The opposite. Keep disrespecting Quinn in the media and try to pressure Quinn to request a trade so he’s the bad guy.

Saying publicly that he wants to play with his brothers, he’s not answering his phone, and that if he doesn’t sign an extension in 2 years you’ll have to make Moves; that’s a passive aggressive way of antagonizing Quinn

 

[Mr grumpy]

Patrick Alvin is the GM. JUST saying

 

[Diablo2020]

Iron Mike trades everyone, tomorrow. Sometimes immedietly again thereafter. (Gelinas -> Sanderson -> Mayday)

Lou Lam just signs guys to max deals and they therefore become untradable. (pierre engvall lololol)

Trader Jim, is going to take 3 years to turn Horvat, Miller and Boeser into Hronek and Marcus Pettersson while tanking any and all value from Ep40 and Demko. At least he's preparing us and getting out ahead of a thing that was only spoken about behind closer doors, until he himself decided to tell the world.

I honestly liked the Keenan approach. Core is garbage, brand is damaged, everything must go.

 

[me2]

Patrick Alvin is the GM. JUST saying

[Kermit x-ray comic]

 

[dirtydanglez]

canucks are a mess. a lot of work to do.

 

[Random schmoe]

Tinkerer to best Tailor the roster. Wants a Soldier, will likely Spy.

Need moar coffee

 

[Love]

Yeah I mean if my grandpa was running the Canucks he’d say dumb shit every single time he’s interviewed too.

People his age shouldn’t be in positions like this. But we’re a long way off from that conversation. It seems most Americans think JR is prime age considering who they choose as their presidential candidates.

 

[kcunac]

Lot of posts that clearly don’t know anything about the Canucks. Rutherford is old and talks a bit too much, but his role is limited. He was managing the talks with Tochett and the practice risk issues but the result (or lack thereof) would have been the same no matter the manager. Alvin’s the GM and manages contracts and trades.

the main problem was obvious. We had two top 15 centres who both totally shit the bed. Show me a team that can afford to survive that. Unfortunately now we need Pettersson to recover and another top 6 centres who both which is very difficult to acquire. But the Pettersson issue that absolutely blew this team up wasn’t Rutherford, Alvin, or even ownership’s fault.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

The Canucks' roster during the 2021–22 season. The roster at the time of Rutherford's appointment, included the following players:

Forwards:

• J.T. Miller
• Elias Pettersson
• Bo Horvat
• Brock Boeser
• Conor Garland
• Tanner Pearson
• Jason Dickinson
• Tyler Motte
• Juho Lammikko
• Matthew Highmore
• Alex Chiasson
• Justin Dowling
• Sheldon Dries
• Nic Petan
• Phil Di Giuseppe
• Brad Richardson

Defensemen:

• Quinn Hughes
• Tyler Myers
• Oliver Ekman-Larsson
• Luke Schenn
• Tucker Poolman
• Brad Hunt
• Travis Hamonic
• Kyle Burroughs
• Noah Juulsen
• Jack Rathbone

Goaltenders:

• Thatcher Demko
• Jaroslav Halak
• Spencer Martin
• Michael DiPietro

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Dumbass would be more appropriate.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Multiverse Effect?

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Do some people call him Maurice? Does he get his lovin on the run?

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

 

[ClydeLee]

The opposite. Keep disrespecting Quinn in the media and try to pressure Quinn to request a trade so he’s the bad guy.

Saying publicly that he wants to play with his brothers, he’s not answering his phone, and that if he doesn’t sign an extension in 2 years you’ll have to make Moves; that’s a passive aggressive way of antagonizing Quinn

How's that make Quinn the bad guy when everyone has seen there was nothing negative with Quinn until JR said this all?

The only hate should be at JR

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

 

[Oilslick941611]

Is Jim Rutherford really improving the Vancouver Canucks, or is he simply tinkering without a clear direction? Since taking over, the veteran executive has made a series of trades, extensions, and roster changes, but it’s hard to say if the team and roster is actually any better than when he and Allvin took over. Fans and analysts are left wondering: is there a long-term plan in place? In an NHL where every decision counts, it’s fair to ask: Have the Canucks truly improved, or are they just stuck in a cycle of failure again?


What do you think, are the Canucks better off under Rutherford, or has the team taken a step backward? Would you trust him to navigate the rough seas the Canucks now face?

You be the judge.

Here is a comprehensive overview of the Canucks' transaction history under Rutherford's leadership:

Trades
2022–23 Season
Oct 7, 2022: Traded Jason Dickinson and a 2024 2nd-round pick to the Chicago Blackhawks for Riley Stillman.
Oct 27, 2022: Sent Michael DiPietro and Jonathan Myrenberg to the Boston Bruins in exchange for Jack Studnicka.
Oct 28, 2022: Acquired Ethan Bear and Lane Pederson from the Carolina Hurricanes for a 2023 5th-round pick.
Jan 30, 2023: Traded Bo Horvat to the New York Islanders for Anthony Beauvillier, Aatu Raty, and a conditional 2023 1st-round pick.
Feb 25, 2023: Acquired Vitali Kravtsov from the New York Rangers for Will Lockwood and a 2026 7th-round pick.
Feb 27, 2023: Sent Riley Stillman to the Buffalo Sabres for Josh Bloom.
Mar 1, 2023: Traded Luke Schenn to the Toronto Maple Leafs for a 2023 3rd-round pick.
Mar 1, 2023: Acquired Filip Hronek and a 2023 4th-round pick from the Detroit Red Wings for a conditional 2023 1st-round pick and a 2023 2nd-round pick.
Mar 3, 2023: Sent Curtis Lazar to the New Jersey Devils for a 2024 4th-round pick.
Mar 3, 2023: Traded Wyatt Kalynuk to the New York Rangers for future considerations.

2023–24 Season
Sep 19, 2023: Acquired Casey DeSmith from the Montreal Canadiens for Tanner Pearson and a 2025 3rd-round pick.
Oct 8, 2023: Obtained Sam Lafferty from the Toronto Maple Leafs for a 2024 5th-round pick.
Oct 17, 2023: Traded Jack Rathbone and Karel Plasek to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Mark Friedman and Ty Glover.
Nov 28, 2023: Sent Anthony Beauvillier to the Chicago Blackhawks for a conditional 2024 5th-round pick.
Nov 30, 2023: Acquired Nikita Zadorov from the Calgary Flames for a 2024 5th-round pick and a 2026 3rd-round pick.
Dec 15, 2023: Traded Jack Studnicka to the San Jose Sharks for Nick Cicek and a 2024 6th-round pick.
Jan 31, 2024: Obtained Elias Lindholm from the Calgary Flames for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, a 2024 1st-round pick, and a conditional 2024 4th-round pick.
Jun 26, 2024: Traded Sam Lafferty and Ilya Mikheyev (with 15% salary retained) to the Chicago Blackhawks for a 2027 4th-round pick.

2024–25 Season
Aug 18, 2024: Sent Vasily Podkolzin to the Edmonton Oilers for Ottawa's 2025 4th-round pick.
Oct 6, 2024: Acquired Erik Brannstrom from the Colorado Avalanche for Tucker Poolman (with 20% salary retained) and a 2025 4th-round pick.
Nov 8, 2024: Traded Daniel Sprong to the Seattle Kraken for future considerations.
Jan 31, 2025: Traded J.T. Miller, Erik Brannstrom, and Jackson Dorrington to the New York Rangers for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and a conditional 1st-round pick (2025 or 2026).
Jan 31, 2025: Acquired Marcus Pettersson and Drew O'Connor from the Pittsburgh Penguins for Vincent Desharnais, Danton Heinen, Melvin Fernstrom, and the Rangers' 2025 1st-round pick.
Feb 7, 2025: Sent Mark Friedman to the Nashville Predators for future considerations.
Mar 7, 2025: Traded Carson Soucy to the New York Rangers for a 3rd-round pick originally from the San Jose Sharks.


Free Agent Signings

2023 Offseason
Jul 1, 2023: Signed Teddy Blueger, Ian Cole, Matt Irwin, Tristen Nielsen, Zach Sawchenko, and Carson Soucy.
Aug 11, 2023: Signed Pius Suter.
Mar 14, 2024: Signed Christian Felton.

2024 Offseason
Jul 1, 2024: Signed Jake DeBrusk (7-year, $38.5M), Danton Heinen, Derek Forbort, Vincent Desharnais, Jiri Patera, Kiefer Sherwood, and Nathan Smith.
Jul 20, 2024: Signed Daniel Sprong.
Sep 21, 2024: Signed Kevin Lankinen.


Contracts

Jun 30, 2023: Noah Juulsen (2-year).
Jul 2, 2023: Akito Hirose (2-year).
Jul 9, 2023: Nils Höglander (2-year).
Sep 24, 2023: Sawyer Mynio (3-year).
Sep 25, 2023: Ty Young (3-year).
Nov 24, 2023: Nils Aman (2-year).
Mar 2, 2024: Elias Pettersson (8-year).
Mar 30, 2024: Ty Mueller (3-year).
Jun 18, 2024: Filip Hronek (8-year).
Jun 19, 2024: Mark Friedman (1-year).
Jun 20, 2024: Linus Karlsson and Cole McWard (1-year each).
Jun 26, 2024: Teddy Blueger (2-year).
Jun 27, 2024: Dakota Joshua (4-year) and Tyler Myers (3-year).
Jul 16, 2024: Artūrs Šilovs (2-year).
Sep 29, 2024: Vilmer Alriksson (3-year).
Oct 6, 2024: Nils Höglander (3-year extension).
Feb 5, 2025: Marcus Pettersson (6-year).
Feb 18, 2025: Drew O'Connor (2-year).
Feb 21, 2025: Kevin Lankinen (5-year).
Mar 18, 2025: Aku Koskenvuo (2-year).

A lot of the many trades he makes is fixing the errors he makes. Some may argue that’s a good thing, but it’s a lot mistakes to make

 

[Fatass]

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Not too sure why Tocchet didn’t think Podkolzin was a player?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Tinkerer to best Tailor the roster. Wants a Soldier, will likely Spy.

Need moar coffee

Cofee. Where are you?