Jets Upcoming Free Agents

[surixon]

I think GMs are likely to be more conservative than the extremely rosy cap projections put out by the NHL and NHLPA, since they have to actually live with contracts they sign if the cap doesn't rise to those lofty projections. Until there is a new CBA, players still only get 1/2 of all hockey related revenue. Since those projections the geopolitical headwinds have been blowing stronger and stronger against a growing economy to support the projections.

Some GMs will do what they always do and spend like drunken sailors but others like Chevy will exercise some constraint.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Agreed. At this point in time it is nothing more than speculation from any insiders. Chevy has demonstrated many times over he will keep everything as dark as possible until something actually happens.

IF Ehlers goes
Montreal is my biggest hunch by far
Vancouver or Toronto are possible as well

I’d hate to see him as a Hab

 

[KingBogo]

They are indeed throwing darts however posters suggesting Chevy will pay 8.1 based on a website that calculates market value might be surprised.
Ehlers camp will check offers and I suspect one or two teams easily give Ehlers term and 9-10 million a year.
Doesn’t matter what we think, there are always gamblers out there who wear GM clothes

Most GMs don’t have the security that Chevy has so they know their time is limited. Why worry about 5 years down the line when you won’t be around to have to deal with the repercussions.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Slotting chib into 3rd line to replace apples is not 'way too high'

Lambert needs to seize a spot - if he does look good on 2nd line then we swap him and iafallo - i mean the guy was supposed to be a top 5 pick, 21-22 years is time to show it

Lundell broke in at 20 and was allowed to make mistakes... same with johnston - jets need to start using their elc players

Chibrikov may succeed there. But he hasn't shown enough yet to be pencilling him in there or even anywhere in the NHL.

Lambert hasn't yet shown enough to assume he can play in the NHL either. Some people thought he would be a top 5 pick. They were wrong. He was a 30th pick and has shown no more than 30th pick level so far.

Lundell was 12th in a strong draft class. Johnston went 23rd but would go 1st in a redraft. Hardly comps for Chibs and Lambert.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Most GMs don’t have the security that Chevy has so they know their time is limited. Why worry about 5 years down the line when you won’t be around to have to deal with the repercussions.

That’s the problem in a nutshell

 

[Daximus]

I think GMs are likely to be more conservative than the extremely rosy cap projections put out by the NHL and NHLPA, since they have to actually live with contracts they sign if the cap doesn't rise to those lofty projections. Until there is a new CBA, players still only get 1/2 of all hockey related revenue. Since those projections the geopolitical headwinds have been blowing stronger and stronger against a growing economy to support the projections.

Agents will likely be angling based on % though, like they have been for awhile.

Ehlers is likely looking at around 8.5-8.8% - will likely get around 10.5% in FA
Vilardi is likely looking at around 7.1-7.5%
Samberg is likely looking at around 5.2-5.6%

Teams have money to burn and many GM's are likely going to spend it. Chicago, Anaheim, San Jose, Carolina and many more teams in the thick of it or looking to turn a corner will have a lot of cap to spend with very little target out there. Ehlers will assuredly be wined and dined if he makes it to FA.

 

[Daximus]

IF Ehlers goes
Montreal is my biggest hunch by far
Vancouver or Toronto are possible as well

I’d hate to see him as a Hab

I think Toronto is going to back up their brinks truck to Bennett. Carolina has always had a lot of interest in Ehlers so I could see them having major interest. Vancouver has $14m to spend but also has Demko and Hughes coming up in successive seasons. Habs only have $6.1 to spend so the only way they will be able to be in on Ehlers is if they can move some cap out. I could see Detroit having heavy interest in Ehlers.

 

[WolfHouse]

Chibrikov may succeed there. But he hasn't shown enough yet to be pencilling him in there or even anywhere in the NHL.

Lambert hasn't yet shown enough to assume he can play in the NHL either. Some people thought he would be a top 5 pick. They were wrong. He was a 30th pick and has shown no more than 30th pick level so far.

Lundell was 12th in a strong draft class. Johnston went 23rd but would go 1st in a redraft. Hardly comps for Chibs and Lambert.

You think Juri Kulich is better than Lambert? I highly doubt that.

I mean we could give him more the a half dozen games to show us...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You think Juri Kulich is better than Lambert? I highly doubt that.

I mean we could give him more the a half dozen games to show us...

It isn't about his half dozen NHL games. He hasn't excelled to a high enough level in the AHL yet. I still hope he does. I hope Jets fix the Moose so he has a better development environment. But I'm not going to give him an NHL spot based on what he has shown so far.

 

[CanMerc]

IF Ehlers goes
Montreal is my biggest hunch by far
Vancouver or Toronto are possible as well

I’d hate to see him as a Hab

I think he goes out east and south of the border…Carolina or Tampa are the teams I think would have the most interest

 

[Buffdog]

IF Ehlers goes
Montreal is my biggest hunch by far
Vancouver or Toronto are possible as well

I’d hate to see him as a Hab

If he wants to be "the man", thr Habs already have Caufield and Slaf playing well with Suzuki. Their 2C situation isn't much better than us, and they aren't competing any time soon. Lastly, I can't see his buddy Patty there beyond this season

 

[KingBogo]

Agents will likely be angling based on % though, like they have been for awhile.

Ehlers is likely looking at around 8.5-8.8% - will likely get around 10.5% in FA
Vilardi is likely looking at around 7.1-7.5%
Samberg is likely looking at around 5.2-5.6%

Teams have money to burn and many GM's are likely going to spend it. Chicago, Anaheim, San Jose, Carolina and many more teams in the thick of it or looking to turn a corner will have a lot of cap to spend with very little target out there. Ehlers will assuredly be wined and dined if he makes it to FA.

Ehlers just might be hitting UFA status at the perfect time to maximize his next contract. Personally I love Ehlers and want the Jets to re-sign him, but at the same time I appreciate the red flags. He will be turning 30 this season, and has 10 NHL years under his belt, but has yet to hit 65 points or 30 goals in his career. A lot of that can be attributed to injuries, but they will become more likely rather than less likely as he ages. Some of that can be attributed to usage, but in reality very few players on a team get optimum usage. For most teams 3 players get optimum usage. Your # 1 center, your top scoring winger and one of your top pairing D-Man if they QB the PP. After that there is various roles players play. So Ehlers will need to make a choice based on salary and term, usage and chances of team success. His problem will likely lye between being the #1 winger on a building team or being a complimentary piece on a true contender. Saying that I hope he stays.

 

[NikoEhlers]

They are indeed throwing darts however posters suggesting Chevy will pay 8.1 based on a website that calculates market value might be surprised.
Ehlers camp will check offers and I suspect one or two teams easily give Ehlers term and 9-10 million a year.
Doesn’t matter what we think, there are always gamblers out there who wear GM clothes

I highly doubt Ehlers care much about a million more, as the person he is, if he leaves its purely because he wants a new challenge. I still think he will follow Scheif and Connor's footsteps towards Jet for life. An 8 x 8 makes too much sense.

 

[NikoEhlers]

Ehlers just might be hitting UFA status at the perfect time to maximize his next contract. Personally I love Ehlers and want the Jets to re-sign him, but at the same time I appreciate the red flags. He will be turning 30 this season, and has 10 NHL years under his belt, but has yet to hit 65 points or 30 goals in his career. A lot of that can be attributed to injuries, but they will become more likely rather than less likely as he ages. Some of that can be attributed to usage, but in reality very few players on a team get optimum usage. For most teams 3 players get optimum usage. Your # 1 center, your top scoring winger and one of your top pairing D-Man if they QB the PP. After that there is various roles players play. So Ehlers will need to make a choice based on salary and term, usage and chances of team success. His problem will likely lye between being the #1 winger on a building team or being a complimentary piece on a true contender. Saying that I hope he stays.

An upgrade on 2C would help a lot towards keeping him, I think, not that Names didnt do a good job, he has done a great job in what shouldnt be his position. Jets has had a hole in that spot since forever which I am sure Nik hasnt been happy with. He needs a fast puckhound with a bit more skill than Names.

 

[Bender Duster]

Let's not forget that guys like Lambert and Chibrikov didn't put up good numbers in the AHL because, well frankly, the Moose trying to break out of their own zone was a giant...

 

[Eyeseeing]

I highly doubt Ehlers care much about a million more, as the person he is, if he leaves its purely because he wants a new challenge. I still think he will follow Scheif and Connor's footsteps towards Jet for life. An 8 x 8 makes too much sense.

Ehlers if he is like most of us will seriously consider the financials.
Jet for life or potentially 7-8 million more to close out the career……
I’m guessing cash will be king

PS I would love it if you were correct

 

[DRW204]

Ehlers if he is like most of us will seriously consider the financials.
Jet for life or potentially 7-8 million more to close out the career……
I’m guessing cash will be king

PS I would love it if you were correct

do you really think a team is hitting above 9m/year for Ehlers? Ehlers is v good, great analytics, but pts and TOI drive $$$. 8x8m is a fair deal in my view, & fits well under Scheifele, just like their 1st deals (6m vs 6.125m). additionally, it would take 9.15m at 7 years in FA to get the same total value.

An upgrade on 2C would help a lot towards keeping him, I think, not that Names didnt do a good job, he has done a great job in what shouldnt be his position. Jets has had a hole in that spot since forever which I am sure Nik hasnt been happy with. He needs a fast puckhound with a bit more skill than Names.

one thing that i think ehlers does not receive credit for, is how he's dealt with a rotating cast of centers over the years & yet he maintains a v strong pt production at 5v5, along with his line rating v well in 5v5 goal-differential. contrast it with the top line, they're joined at the hip so there's familiarity every year.

since '17-18 it's been: little, copp, stastny, scheifele, hayes, wheeler (at C in 19-20), eakin, stastny re-acquired, dubois, namestnikov, & monahan.

 

[Eyeseeing]

do you really think a team is hitting above 9m/year for Ehlers? Ehlers is v good, great analytics, but pts and TOI drive $$$. 8x8m is a fair deal in my view, & fits well under Scheifele, just like their 1st deals (6m vs 6.125m). additionally, it would take 9.15m at 7 years in FA to get the same total value.


one thing that i think ehlers does not receive credit for, is how he's dealt with a rotating cast of centers over the years & yet he maintains a v strong pt production at 5v5, along with his line rating v well in 5v5 goal-differential. contrast it with the top line, they're joined at the hip so there's familiarity every year.

since '17-18 it's been: little, copp, stastny, scheifele, hayes, wheeler (at C in 19-20), eakin, stastny re-acquired, dubois, namestnikov, & monahan.

I do believe it’s a small possibility yes.