Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[ennsjd07]

The way the moose season is going He will soon be one of the black aces. Any chance he could be a contributor to the jets? Higher end than the average Jets D , Plays physical, or is that asking too much?

I don’t know about plays physical often, but I do remember him getting suspended in Sweden for hitting a guy into next Tuesday.

 

[voyageur]

I don’t know about plays physical often, but I do remember him getting suspended in Sweden for hitting a guy into next Tuesday.

He's also coming back from what looked to be shoulder injury, from taking AHL hits. There's a physical maturity that may be needed to absorb NHL hits.

 

[Bender Duster]

He's also coming back from what looked to be shoulder injury, from taking AHL hits. There's a physical maturity that may be needed to absorb NHL hits.

I dunno. Shoulder injuries can happen at any level and I doubt the contact is any lighter in the AHL.

 

[BoneDocUK]

The way the moose season is going He will soon be one of the black aces. Any chance he could be a contributor to the jets? Higher end than the average Jets D , Plays physical, or is that asking too much?

I'd think he'd definitely be in the mix as a black ace in a PO run. And whilst he isn't an overtly physical player in my viewings, he has size and a grumpy streak and is absolutely capable of a heavy check a la JMo on occasion. Like JMo or peak Pionk, think his combo of mobility, positioning and IQ means he's not easy to play against, even as his strength and pro experience develop.

 

[10Ducky10]

The way the moose season is going He will soon be one of the black aces. Any chance he could be a contributor to the jets? Higher end than the average Jets D , Plays physical, or is that asking too much?

Too much to ask if you are talking this season.

 

[Gm0ney]

Jets prospects' current NHLe and rank (not a comprehensive rank against every NHL prospect ever, but vs. recent Jets prospects and young players, and a selection of older Jets in their respective D+n years):

D+1:
Walton 0.225 (11th - behind Connor, Vesalainen, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kupari, Little, Ehlers, Vilardi, Petan, Yager)
He 0.184 (15)
Loponen 0.100 (37)
Freij 0.092 (38)

D+2:
Yager 0.200 (13 - behind Ehlers, Heinola, Perfetti, Lambert, Little, Vesalainen, Connor, McGroarty, Scheifele, Petan, Lucius, Niku, Salomonsson)
Barlow 0.144 (21)
Levis 0.122 (29)
Nehring 0.113 (32)

D+3:
Salomonsson 0.233 (17 - too many to list, only D ahead are in D+3 NHLe are Niku and Heinola)
(McGroarty 0.204 (21))
Lambert 0.183 (23)
Julien 0.104 (32)
Wagner 0.039 (38)
Zhilkin 0.033 (40)
Brown 0.008 (41)

D+4:
Chibrikov 0.294 (13 - Connor, Ehlers, Little, Rashevsky, Scheif, Perfetti, Nieds, Vilardi, Barron, Names, Apples, Lowry)
Lucius 0.146 (26)
(Kuzmin 0.081 (32))

D+5:
Perfetti 0.600 (3 - Connor, Scheif)
Phillips 0.111 (25)
Bauer 0.024 (29)

D+6:
Rashevsky 0.450 (8 - Scheif, Connor, Ehlers, Vilardi, Little, Nieds, Morrissey)
Lundmark 0.097 (23)
Heinola 0.063 (24)

 

[surixon]

Jets prospects' current NHLe and rank (not a comprehensive rank against every NHL prospect ever, but vs. recent Jets prospects and young players, and a selection of older Jets in their respective D+n years):

D+1:
Walton 0.225 (11th - behind Connor, Vesalainen, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kupari, Little, Ehlers, Vilardi, Petan, Yager)
He 0.184 (15)
Loponen 0.100 (37)
Freij 0.092 (38)

D+2:
Yager 0.200 (13 - behind Ehlers, Heinola, Perfetti, Lambert, Little, Vesalainen, Connor, McGroarty, Scheifele, Petan, Lucius, Niku, Salomonsson)
Barlow 0.144 (21)
Levis 0.122 (29)
Nehring 0.113 (32)

D+3:
Salomonsson 0.233 (17 - too many to list, only D ahead are in D+3 NHLe are Niku and Heinola)
(McGroarty 0.204 (21))
Lambert 0.183 (23)
Julien 0.104 (32)
Wagner 0.039 (38)
Zhilkin 0.033 (40)
Brown 0.008 (41)

D+4:
Chibrikov 0.294 (13 - Connor, Ehlers, Little, Rashevsky, Scheif, Perfetti, Nieds, Vilardi, Barron, Names, Apples, Lowry)
Lucius 0.146 (26)
(Kuzmin 0.081 (32))

D+5:
Perfetti 0.600 (3 - Connor, Scheif)
Phillips 0.111 (25)
Bauer 0.024 (29)

D+6:
Rashevsky 0.450 (8 - Scheif, Connor, Ehlers, Vilardi, Little, Nieds, Morrissey)
Lundmark 0.097 (23)
Heinola 0.063 (24)

Doesn't look like we will get the same scoring from our d plus 1 - d plus 4 prospects as we got from 2011-2015 crop.

I think we are banking more on high end two-way play from our top two prospects in Yager and Salomonsson to be fair.

Guys like Lambert/Lucious/Barlow/Chibrikov aren't tracking as high end top 6 offensive players and that is a bit concerning to me as that is three 1st round picks and a second rounder. I wonder if we see some of them packaged for now pieces with term.

Thankfully Cole is performing and trending well in the NHL, but we are going to need some of the other forward prospects to grow into good NHL players to offset the eventual declines to 2011-2015 crop.

 

[Gm0ney]

Doesn't look like we will get the same scoring from our d plus 1 - d plus 4 prospects as we got from 2011-2015 crop.

I think we are banking more on high end two-way play from our top two prospects in Yager and Salomonsson to be fair.

Guys like Lambert/Lucious/Barlow/Chibrikov aren't tracking as high end top 6 offensive players and that is a bit concerning to me as that is three 1st round picks and a second rounder. I wonder if we see some of them packaged for now pieces with term.

Thankfully Cole is performing and trending well in the NHL, but we are going to need some of the other forward prospects to grow into good NHL players to offset the eventual declines to 2011-2015 crop.

This year's awful Moose team is messing up a lot of prospects' NHLe numbers...

 

[Mud Turtle]

Jets prospects' current NHLe and rank (not a comprehensive rank against every NHL prospect ever, but vs. recent Jets prospects and young players, and a selection of older Jets in their respective D+n years):

D+1:
Walton 0.225 (11th - behind Connor, Vesalainen, Chibrikov, Perfetti, Kupari, Little, Ehlers, Vilardi, Petan, Yager)
He 0.184 (15)
Loponen 0.100 (37)
Freij 0.092 (38)

D+2:
Yager 0.200 (13 - behind Ehlers, Heinola, Perfetti, Lambert, Little, Vesalainen, Connor, McGroarty, Scheifele, Petan, Lucius, Niku, Salomonsson)
Barlow 0.144 (21)
Levis 0.122 (29)
Nehring 0.113 (32)

D+3:
Salomonsson 0.233 (17 - too many to list, only D ahead are in D+3 NHLe are Niku and Heinola)
(McGroarty 0.204 (21))
Lambert 0.183 (23)
Julien 0.104 (32)
Wagner 0.039 (38)
Zhilkin 0.033 (40)
Brown 0.008 (41)

D+4:
Chibrikov 0.294 (13 - Connor, Ehlers, Little, Rashevsky, Scheif, Perfetti, Nieds, Vilardi, Barron, Names, Apples, Lowry)
Lucius 0.146 (26)
(Kuzmin 0.081 (32))

D+5:
Perfetti 0.600 (3 - Connor, Scheif)
Phillips 0.111 (25)
Bauer 0.024 (29)

D+6:
Rashevsky 0.450 (8 - Scheif, Connor, Ehlers, Vilardi, Little, Nieds, Morrissey)
Lundmark 0.097 (23)
Heinola 0.063 (24)

That’s kind of an ugly list. I’m surprised how low some of them are.

 

[Gm0ney]

That’s kind of an ugly list. I’m surprised how low some of them are.

Walton is decent for D+1, but sounds like he might be skipping back. Kevin He is alright too... hopefully he comes back from suspension with an axe to grind.

Salomonsson is good for a defenseman, proving he can score in the A. The Moose factor is a drag on those prospects playing there this year.

Would've been nice to get a full season of Chibrikov (on a decent team).

Perfetti is the only older guy, but he's a solid NHLer with more upside to come.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Walton is decent for D+1, but sounds like he might be skipping back. Kevin He is alright too... hopefully he comes back from suspension with an axe to grind.

Salomonsson is good for a defenseman, proving he can score in the A. The Moose factor is a drag on those prospects playing there this year.

Would've been nice to get a full season of Chibrikov (on a decent team).

Perfetti is the only older guy, but he's a solid NHLer with more upside to come.

Thanks for crunching the numbers (and contextualizing them).

Quick question -- if we view this season's Moose team as, for example, a black hole of scoring talent compounded by a D-corps *apart from Salmo* bereft of puck movers in transition and in support on attack, made still worse by a dearth of veteran mentors and a rotating cast of key players injured and called up, how much weight might those factors carry in ballparking prospects like a water-treading Lambert or Chibby?

How much does such a shyte team and environment impact prospect performance, given that we have samples from happier days?

I know this question has been asked before in this thread, but given that folks are including Lambo etc in trade talks, I wonder if this year is turning into something like his draft year in Liga in terms of its negative impact on development, or something to be taken in stride?

Maybe the Moose need a change of scenery.



* Not perhaps a set of questions that are easily answered, but concerns about environmental factors in development have been raised in my field for a while now, esp during and post Covid.