Post-Game Talk: Jets lose 2-1: bleh.
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Enstrom has been a strange case this year. He started out really well offensively but has been ice cold lately. Even a bunch of his decisions have been off.
He has shown a great deal of ability in the past and I will patiently allow him to work his way out of his funk.
He has shown a great deal of ability in the past and I will patiently allow him to work his way out of his funk.
Agreed, a couple of mistakes and a flucky bounce did us in.
I have noticed a marketable improvement in our defense this year and if the pp comes around we should be in decent shape.
I can't cplain about the effort last and overall play of the team las night.
This is why Noel needs to be gone. You don't accommodate to other team's systems! You get your own systems and what works for your team. UGH NOEL! Even peewee teams have systems
Lol...and then everyone will be screaming "Why don't we ever make adjustments??? UGH [COACH NAME HERE]!" when we lose.
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The Blackhawks sucked for 11 years between 1997 and 2008. They made the playoffs once in that time and were well below a .500 team for all but two years of that stretch.
Not to say that we're on a correct course or anything, but droughts like what we're experiencing aren't uncommon. It could be awhile.
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This is why Noel needs to be gone. You don't accommodate to other team's systems! You get your own systems and what works for your team. UGH NOEL! Even peewee teams have systems
That only works if you significantly out-talent or out-match your opposition. Which we don't. We aren't a team with an overpowering offense.
In any sport you make adjustments according to your opposition.
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They also tanked to get Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, etc.
Just like Pittsburgh tanked to get Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury.
But until the Jets are not content with finishing 10th in the conference every year, nothing will change.
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So why are we blaming the penalty with under 5 min left, but not Pavelec, for costing us the game? The Jets did everything they needed to defensively to limit the scoring chances and play a Central Division style game. That mental lapse IMO did cost us the game, all Pavelec had to do was be steady/error free in this game for us to win.
Many Pavelec defenders are quick to point out that he also makes many excellent saves per game, but if you religiously watch any other NHL teams you'll find that so do ALL the other goalies EVERY game. The difference between Pav and other top goalies is that they do not let in a bad goal per game. That's the difference between Pav having an all-star save %
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So Seabrook at 14 and Keith at 54 are a result of tanking?
It's great to read on multiple threads that "All" the Jets have to do, is sell off the majority of their vets, hit the bottom of the barrel, and everything will work out perfectly in the end.
We'll be so lucky because the two years we "choose" to get 1st overall picks (because picking 1st overall is a choice and Chevy is just too stupid to figure it out yet) they will be generational talents. And we'll also be super lucky because during the years that we absolutely suck, none of our players will develop bad habits, and somehow during losing most of our games they will all somehow develop the habits of winners. We'll also hit on excellent 2nd and 3rd round picks to round out our freshly created all-star team.
Get on it Chevy!
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Edmonton tanks every year. Pittsburgh was also in financial ruin; the Blackhawks just sucked. Pittsburgh might have left had Mario not stepped in and had they not drafted Crosby. And Letang was drafted 62nd overall. His bestie Luc Bourdon was drafted higher.
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That's most certainly not what I am saying. This is how you end up as the Edmonton Oilers. However all Stanley cup winning teams show the same progression. You can do it controlled. It wouldn't take much for this Jets team to be a top 5 pick, hell trading Buff alone might be enough. The talent would still be there, but with the return of young assets and picks from that trade (perhaps a Wheeler trade as well) and all of the sudden the Jets might be poised to be a contender in 2-3 years after a top 5 pick. Retaining key veteran leadership like Enstrom, Ladd, Little, Slater, Bogosian. It's something that should have been done 2 years ago, particularly those people who argue the Jets had no depth then it REALLY should have been done two years, not this trying to stay halfway competitive while rebuilding on the fly. Doesn't work, half measures dont work.
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Edmontons problem is they didnt draft in a balanced way.
They shot themselves in the foot, and look at the debacle now.
The stupidest one was taking Yakupov.
He is good? Yes
Will he be great? Probably.
I know there is allot of talk about "not drafting for need, but BPA"
But as far as I personally was concerned, there was so little difference in the top 3-4-5 players that you really couldnt lose.
Murray would probably look pretty good on Edmonton's back end rather than Yakupov on the 3rd line
They shot themselves in the foot, and look at the debacle now.
The stupidest one was taking Yakupov.
He is good? Yes
Will he be great? Probably.
I know there is allot of talk about "not drafting for need, but BPA"
But as far as I personally was concerned, there was so little difference in the top 3-4-5 players that you really couldnt lose.
Murray would probably look pretty good on Edmonton's back end rather than Yakupov on the 3rd line
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Kane doesn't spend any time in front of the net and has a brutal shooting percentage and that doesn't even account for all the missed nets.
Kane needs to wake up and earn a place on a top minute line instead of having his salary dictate his line placement.
King Woodballs
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Yeah that is what I meant.
I was going to edit my post
I do agree though.
I thought the Oil should have chosen Murray.
Good thing I read this thread or I might have thought that our team only being able to score one goal might have contributed to the loss. Nope, it's all on the crappy goal Pavelec let in and Noel. That Thorburn sure is dragging down the 2nd line too.
Huh?
I'll give you Toews, Kane, Crosby and Malkin, but Seabrook (14th overall), Keith (54th overall) and Letang (62nd overall) came from "tanking"??
St. Louis would have only scored 1 goal too, if not for the lapse by Pavelec. Believe it or not, it is possible to play a defensive game and get points out of a 1-1 game in regulation.
What people sometimes forget is that the direction of a game can change when a cheap / easy goal goes in the net. It allows a team like the Blues to play a much more defensive style when they get the lead on the road.
I don't want to "blame" Pavs for the loss, but you can't say that letting in that softy was not consequential in a game like that.
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What you are saying though is the more rational road. I don't think many would be against trading a guy like Buff, or Kane for the right return. Especially if we're getting young quality assets like Schenn, ROR, etc.
What is funny though, are the worries that somehow we are going to turn into the Flames soon. Those Flames whose core players were all over 30+ when dealt? The Jets are one of the youngest teams in the league.
What is funny though, are the worries that somehow we are going to turn into the Flames soon. Those Flames whose core players were all over 30+ when dealt? The Jets are one of the youngest teams in the league.
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