Post-Game Talk: Jets 8 - Bruins 1

[Moloch]

There was one sequence where the puck was in the corner to Helly's left and Chibrikov was harrassing 6'5" Carlo (IIRC). The puck went somewhere else, Carlo disengaged, then he circled behind the net to come up beside Helly on the other side. Meanwhile Chibs beelined through the crease to reengage Carlo by pretty much skating right into his face (in a manner of speaking considering Chibs is 7 inches shorter), thereby neutralizing Carlo. It was hilarious. Anyway, there's just no fear or quit in Chibs, and quite clearly from the crowd reaction after his goal he is already a fan favourite. Love his interviews too, all deadpan and all business.

I was at the game, in the 100's so I was super close to the ice and saw this happen, it was amazing. Also the guys who started the Swaaaayymannnn chant were right behind me, I joked with them that they should pull him for the extra attacker when we scored our 8th.

Heres the thing, normally I'd say give the kid the looks and send him back down so we can return to form. But every game I've seen from him, whether that be vs the nucks, boston, or down on the moose he has no quit. Its a small sample size at the nhl level but I think he's just hungry and certainly proving he deserves to stay up. We need his feistyness in the lineup for sure.

As for what roster decisions we make when 27 is back, im not sure. Let Barron take Gus' spot in the PB and see what else Nikita has to show us.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Is Perfetti going to be an important piece of the future? He's running out of time for "he's still young". By next year I don't want to hear any excuses about his age.

I was thinking he got the kick in the pants he needed last year and would come back this year strong but aren't we getting the same Perfetti we saw last year? Started out strong like everyone else but now the production is becoming more sparce as teams are locking down their defensive structure. To be honest that bridge is looking smarter and smarter for the Jets.
Some people who look at those speed stats say he's fast but I just see him late to everywhere he needs to be and does little more than waive his stick around. He does very little defensively to get the puck back. Offensively he has great vision but seems to use it from the perimeter for the most part like much of his game, which has worked well on the PP when he has all day to find some seems. He gets half his points on PP2. I guess you can say it's not fair to judge him without Ehlers but that's just admitting he isn't driving jack shit.

So far I'm seeing a complementary player more than a core piece.

Agreed on all points.

A lot of people hated Bowness’ approach with Perfetti last season. I’m beginning to think he was on to something.

Imagine the current Jets roster with Monahan and Toffoli - or whatever, replace them with two decent-ish veteran scoring line Fs - and then a healthy Ehlers. Does Perfetti have a place in the forward lineup?

The opportunity has been there. He’s playing prime minutes and PP1 time, but outside of the two goals vs. Vegas he’s done very little. Unfortunately what I’ve seen from Perfetti is exactly like you said, a complementary piece at best. The kind of guy who needs prime minutes and heavy PP usage to even flirt with 50+ points.

Not a lost cause by any stretch but I’m beginning to have my doubts about him as a core piece.

 

[scelaton]

I was curious about the take on that fight from the Bruins's board. It was mostly utter disgust at what Frederic did. Last night on the Kenny vs Renny post game show, it was Renny who spent about 30 minutes defending Frederic. What a moron.

I share the disgust of the Bruins board. We (mostly) all like a good, spontaneous, passionate hockey fight, with a willing opponent, but this was just plain predatory. I had a clear view at the game: Frederic goaded him, cross checked him, dropped the gloves and smashed him. It was entirely premeditated and Gus was probably too surprised to walk away. Now he's got a concussion, aka, traumatic brain injury, which he may or may not recover from quickly or completely.

Renny is the media equivalent of Frederic--both hit hard but don't think too hard about the consequences. After all, it pays the bills.

 

[Jet]

I have a t-shirt for that...

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I like adding 'out' to this example

 

[johnnyonthspot]

The way i'm reading that is Comrie starting, hopefully i'm wrong with that i want to beat Vegas the cheating bastards.

Comerie starting or maintenance day for Helly?

It almost might be better if he has another slow year to allow the jets to sign him to a lower value long term deal.

He is slowly growing and will peak in 2026.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

How the f*** can you have two working brain cells and defend that? Frederic, an experienced and skilled fighter, bum rushed a guy with zero fights on his career card entering last night. And threw two more hard shots at him after one-punching him to the ice.

Assuming both are in the lineup, I have no doubt Lowry will challenge Frederic when they play again in Boston. The tit-for-tat side of me wants to see Lowry ambush a Bruins player that’s never fought in his life.

 

[Shlep]

How long are we gong to make excuses for Perfetti for?

Everybody gets "snakebitten", including the guys you referenced

You act like he's never had a good stretch of games. Reminder that he was on pace for 29 goals midway through last season.

 

[Jet]

How the f*** do you even defend that? Frederic, an experienced and skilled fighter, bum rushed a guy with zero fights on his career card entering last night. And threw two more hard shots at him after one-punching him to the ice.

Assuming both are in the lineup, I have no doubt Lowry will challenge Frederic when they play again in Boston. The tit-for-tat side of me wants to see Lowry ambush a Bruins player that’s never fought in his life.

I wanted to see him speedbag Pasternak. He's a little whiny bitch and dirty in a sneaky way so it's not like he doesn't have it coming to him.

 

[Buffdog]

You act like he's never had a good stretch of games. Reminder that he was on pace for 29 goals midway through last season.

I'm acting like that? How? When did I say that?

All I'm saying is that with Cole, its always been "but his line mates" or "but bones..." or "he's snakebitten"

I don't often hear "he can play better and he needs to" when he's not playing well

 

[NA Hockey]

I'm acting like that? How? When did I say that?

All I'm saying is that with Cole, its always been "but his line mates" or "but bones..." or "he's snakebitten"

I don't often hear "he can play better and he needs to" when he's not playing well

He needs to continue to grow, he needs to become more consistent in production, he needs to continue to get better. 18 points in 30 games though as a 22 year old, while being +11 is pretty darn good, compared to most players at that age and many around his age who were high draft picks. Could it be better? Absolutely. Does he need to keep working hard to get to where we all hope he will get to? For sure.

But you make it sound like he isn't playing well, that he is struggling and holding the team back, which is simply not true at all. The coaches usage him lately shows that he is growing and gaining trust.

There is more to the game than just points , though I know that is how all players are judged but his production overall is still good. He has gotten better defensively, at getting pucks out, winning board battles while still creating offensive opportunities. So if he continues to grow as a player at the rate is, and gets more consistent you have a core piece for the next 10 years.

 

[Buffdog]

He needs to continue to grow, he needs to become more consistent in production, he needs to continue to get better. 18 points in 30 games though as a 22 year old, while being +11 is pretty darn good, compared to most players at that age and many around his age who were high draft picks. Could it be better? Absolutely. Does he need to keep working hard to get to where we all hope he will get to? For sure.

But you make it sound like he isn't playing well, that he is struggling and holding the team back, which is simply not true at all. The coaches usage him lately shows that he is growing and gaining trust.

There is more to the game than just points , though I know that is how all players are judged but his production overall is still good. He has gotten better defensively, at getting pucks out, winning board battles while still creating offensive opportunities. So if he continues to grow as a player at the rate is, and gets more consistent you have a core piece for the next 10 years.

Please quote the post where I said that

 

[NA Hockey]

I find it interesting that Perfetti seems to so polarizing with a lot of people that really appreciate his game and some that really don’t

Compare that to someone like Villardi who never has a bad word said about him here. He has 22 points, (only 4 more than Cole) this year while playing exclusively on the top line with Scheif and KFC, 1st pp every time, and 19 mins a night. No one talk about him struggling.

If Cole had that opportunity for the whole season and produced like that people would rip him.

Please quote the post where I said that

Sorry you didn’t say it, I took it as inference from your many posts and other people’s. If I was wrong I apologize

 

[Adam da bomb]

I find it interesting that Perfetti seems to so polarizing with a lot of people that really appreciate his game and some that really don’t

Compare that to someone like Villardi who never has a bad word said about him here. He has 22 points, (only 4 more than Cole) this year while playing exclusively on the top line with Scheif and KFC, 1st pp every time, and 19 mins a night. No one talk about him struggling.

If Cole had that opportunity for the whole season and produced like that people would rip him.


Sorry you didn’t say it, I took it as inference from your many posts and other people’s. If I was wrong I apologize

A lot of jets are polarizing. I mean even last year a lot of ppl wanted kfc gone because he is soft and doesn’t play defense. Lowry is known as stone hands. The only players who generally get a pass are Morrissey and Hellybuck.