Post-Game Talk: Jets 5 - Blues 3, Jets lead series 3-2

[cbcwpg]

If you don't like rants, skip this post.

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Brayden Schenn, and Tom Wilson.

Two assholes cut from the same cloth. Highly decorated and rewarded for their ability to determine when a player is defenceless. The NHL's governing leadership are fundamentally flawed, bad people... ergo.. their respective teams gain the edge. Tilting a game, a series, has become so common that now its expected.

NHL hockey becomes permanently tainted for me..something less than what it might be.

Thats it for me... no more rants.

Correct.

Everything that happens in the playoffs is because the league, ownership, and the GMs, want it to happen that way. The refs don't ref the games, they "manage" the games ( everyone knows this ) , and they manage the games based on instructions they get from the groups that control everything.

Players head hunt because they are allowed to with minimal penalties if they go too far. That's' on the controllers of the league.

I don't blame the coaches or the players. They are just taking advantage of what the league lets them get away with. Sure, Brayden Schenn and Tom Wilson are a-holes and are deliberately trying to hurt their opponents, but it's only because they are allowed to.

 

[Jet]

If you don't like rants, skip this post.

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Brayden Schenn, and Tom Wilson.

Two assholes cut from the same cloth. Highly decorated and rewarded for their ability to determine when a player is defenceless. The NHL's governing leadership are fundamentally flawed, bad people... ergo.. their respective teams gain the edge. Tilting a game, a series, has become so common that now its expected.

NHL hockey becomes permanently tainted for me..something less than what it might be.

Thats it for me... no more rants.

That wasn't a rant, maybe a ra

 

[bustamente]

Correct.

Everything that happens in the playoffs is because the league, ownership, and the GMs, want it to happen that way. The refs don't ref the games, they "manage" the games ( everyone knows this ) , and they manage the games based on instructions they get from the groups that control everything.

Players head hunt because they are allowed to with minimal penalties if they go too far. That's' on the controllers of the league.

I don't blame the coaches or the players. They are just taking advantage of what the league lets them get away with. Sure, Brayden Schenn and Tom Wilson are a-holes and are deliberately trying to hurt their opponents, but it's only because they are allowed to.

Doesn't help that when the offender get a suspension the PA always takes his side discarding the victim who supposedly is a member of the same PA

 

[Crocket]

There is something infuriating about that play though. The win was huge, especially how the team played. We shut them down for the most part.
The idea that you can just takeout the best player on the team and "that's just hockey" I get it. But imagine if McDavid took the same punishment and hit.
I think it would be looked at differently.

And, Schenn has had several suspensions for charging and hits the head.
3 games for charging head shot on Oshie in the playoffs
1 game suspension for charging, leaving his feet headshot on Volchenkov (no penalty on the play, league reviewed after)
No suspension for a headshot, leaving his feet on Krejci after league review.
Reviewed play for hit on Brendan Smith, leaving feet elbowing Smith, who was injured.

He's been suspended and has a history of charging, head shots, some without suspensions but he's hurt about 5 guys as a consequence of deliberate head shots.

 

[scelaton]

If he does play won't the Blues target his head early and often? That seems to be who they are.

Yes they will and, let's be clear, this plan is coming directly from their coach, who has no compunction about encouraging predatory behaviour on the ice and lying about it.

His behaviour is the reason he was fired from the Dallas Stars and he hasn't changed his stripes. His lie about Faksa causing Scheifele's injury last night is just the latest example.

"(Montgomery's) unprofessional conduct inconsistent with the core values and beliefs of...the National Hockey League....involved 'a material act of unprofessionalism' egregious enough to demand Montgomery's immediate firing.

Jim Montgomery (ice hockey) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Huffer]

On the game itself, I thought the Jets came out and played very well. They limited the Blues shots for the most part, and generated more scoring chances. They seemed to play a better defensive structure, and (not always), there were forwards close to the breaking out Blues forwards which allowed the Jets D to come up many times to make plays.

Nice to see Nino and Names score. It was obvious and talked about, but the Jets needed to get some secondary scoring and they got some last night. That will need to continue going forward and even more so if the Jets don't have Scheifele. I'm guessing if Scheifele doesn't play on Friday (hopefully he does), that they go Names, Lowry, Barron, and Gus down the middle and bring in Kupari.

On Defense if the Jets move on, the inability of Arniel to trust Stanley/Schenn with any meaningful time will come to hurt. Morrissey can play a lot of minutes, but to have to go 25+ a game taking the pounding of the playoffs isn't a good thing. Miller has been solid so he's an option.

Helle played better, but he's still not close to his ability and we need more IMO. In the playoffs you need your goalie to make all the saves he's supposed to and some he's not supposed to. Helle wasn't doing either for the most part this series, and even with a highlight save on a 2 on 1, he still let in an absolute stinker that can never go in on the 2nd.

The Schenn hit absolutely should get a look from the league for leaving his feet but likely won't. The Jets should have been following the Blues lead in this series and taking massive runs and late after the whistle shots on Thomas (and possibly Parayko). Tit for tat, Thomas is their #1C and supposedly has an injury, so the Jets (especially in the 2 blowouts in St. Louis when it was out of reach), should have been going after Thomas like the Blues are with Scheifele.

 

[cbcwpg]

 

[DRW204]

Game 2 and last night were the two best games the Jets have played. Great team cohesiveness and team d, making it easier for Helle.

 

[Jet]

Game 2 and last night were the two best games the Jets have played. Great team cohesiveness and team d, making it easier for Helle.

And then you put that with the first period of game 3 and the Jets are starting to control more of the series.

The boys seem to understand they are going to have to let Helle play through this an get his confidence back. I'm not seeing the sag we were in games 3 and 4 when he let in a bad goal or goal at a terrible time. When snugapoo scored that stinker the boys didn't miss a beat.

 

[bustamente]

Laughable, if it was Mathews and McDavid who were put out Schenn would of been done for the rest of the series

 

[Hobble]

I hope Schenn gets audited.

 

[Howard Chuck]

can this guy just stfu already

So now he’s telepathic Dr Montgomery?

 

[Howard Chuck]

Schenn and Stanley both looked bad out there tonight even with limited time. Stanley was doing his blind passes again and he totally took himself out of position on the Blues' last goal. I honestly don't understand Arniel's reasoning for playing both, together.
Very happy with the W.
Go Jets Go!

In the third he passed directly to a blues player twice within a couple of minutes. Both times he had plenty of time in our own end. I don’t know how many other times because I wasn’t watching.

 

[sipowicz]

So leaving your feet and contacting another player without the puck in the head and the NHL says nothing to see here! F off, what a stupid league, look foward to the day the NHLPA takes the NHL to court with a massive lawsuit over CTE!

 

[Howard Chuck]

Exactly why I felt Jets should have taken matters into their own hands. Let's see what the bald Montgomery Harkonnen f*** would have said if Kyrou had left the game with his arm in a sling.

After the Scheifele injury, even the SN panel was saying the Jets need to start targeting the Blues’ top players.

 

[Hunter368]

This won’t happen let me say that, but I wouldn’t even care about game 6 in St L especially if Mark is out we have little chance of winning it. Go there, rest/sit all the top six players and top 4 D and play our backup in net. Use the game to rest our key guys and focus on physically punishing their top guys (top few forwards and top 4 D) like they 100% are focusing on trying to punish Mark all series. Then game 7 in Winnipeg you dress everyone and try and win, hopefully Mark is back and able to play. Key here I never said anything about revenge or injuring players, but this will never happen. If Mark is out for the series, our chances of winning game 6 is nearly zero and game 7 would be poor. They aggressively targeted Mark all series to take him out and punish him hard.

Post playoffs, I have more to say on where the team went wrong imo and what needs to change…..but that’s later not now

 

[Winnipeg Jets]

f*** jobu

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

If you don't like rants, skip this post.

+++++++++

Brayden Schenn, and Tom Wilson.

Two assholes cut from the same cloth. Highly decorated and rewarded for their ability to determine when a player is defenceless. The NHL's governing leadership are fundamentally flawed, bad people... ergo.. their respective teams gain the edge. Tilting a game, a series, has become so common that now its expected.

NHL hockey becomes permanently tainted for me..something less than what it might be.

Thats it for me... no more rants.

The league and the refs through their actions (not calling those penalties) are telling everyone what is allowed / what the rules are in the post season. Given that, wouldn't you want to have a Tkachuk, Schenn, Wilson, kind of player on the Jets? I wouldn't want Wilson specifically, but I would like a Tkachuk or Schenn or that type of player on the Jets, specifically for Playoff hockey. By the way, they are great in the regular season too.

 

[jokesondee]

So now he’s telepathic Dr Montgomery?

In fairness the fatass's bald head is much more conducive to receiving telepathic signals. Less resistance and all. Having said that Dr Doublechin can shut the f**k up.

 

[TS Quint]

Doesn't help that when the offender get a suspension the PA always takes his side discarding the victim who supposedly is a member of the same PA

PA takes the side of the money not the players. They don't care about safety.

 

[Jet]

This won’t happen let me say that, but I wouldn’t even care about game 6 in St L especially if Mark is out we have little chance of winning it. Go there, rest/sit all the top six players and top 4 D and play our backup in net. Use the game to rest our key guys and focus on physically punishing their top guys (top few forwards and top 4 D) like they 100% are focusing on trying to punish Mark all series. Then game 7 in Winnipeg you dress everyone and try and win, hopefully Mark is back and able to play. Key here I never said anything about revenge or injuring players, but this will never happen. If Mark is out for the series, our chances of winning game 6 is nearly zero and game 7 would be poor. They aggressively targeted Mark all series to take him out and punish him hard.

Post playoffs, I have more to say on where the team went wrong imo and what needs to change…..but that’s later not now

I don't think they have zero chance without Mark.

I posted about the Jets having 'their moment' after game 4, a transformational event that flips a switch in the team psyche. I mentioned that you can't really manufacture it, it has to be organic.

Maybe the Jets moment was that hit and the Scheifele injury. Something for the team to rally behind.

 

[Goodette]

After the Scheifele injury, even the SN panel was saying the Jets need to start targeting the Blues’ top players.

I can see this point as most do, but it makes me think our coaching staff thinks taking penalties will cost us the series, which I also see the point of. I do feel the refs are just waiting for the Jets to do anything.

 

[moosehead81]

So leaving your feet and contacting another player without the puck in the head and the NHL says nothing to see here! F off, what a stupid league, look foward to the day the NHLPA takes the NHL to court with a massive lawsuit over CTE!

Unlike the NFL, the NHL does very little to protect its stars, who are really the players fans pay to see. Scheifle's been targetted the whole series, as has Connor and Morissey, but Scheifle, being a centre and usually first to the puck, is easier to contact, particularly on the boards. The open ice hit after the Schenn hit, may have caused rib damage which is bad in itself but the Schenn hit might have put him into concussion protocol, Scheifle might not have started showing symptoms until right after the first period. In any case, hopefully its not serious and he's on the charter at noon.

 

[jokesondee]

Where has Lowry been by the way?? Ive seen him drop the gloves for lesser hits than the ones on Scheifele. Would have loved to have seen him knock Schenn the f**k out.

 

[sipowicz]

Where has Lowry been by the way?? Ive seen him drop the gloves for lesser hits than the ones on Scheifele. Would have loved to have seen him knock Schenn the f**k out.

Think its pretty obvious that Lowry is playing injured but if he isn't WTF!